Episode 51: Susan and Martin Fisher - Discover Your Personality Type with The Body of 9

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Hello, beautiful humans.
Welcome to another episode of

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Okay.
Now we are in for a treat

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because I I have not one, but
two special guests today here

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before me are Susan, Bennett
Fisher and Martin Fisher.

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Susan and Martin are the
co-founders of body of 9, which

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is an Innovative body-based
personality assessment that

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gives you a deeper understanding
of who you truly are.

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Welcome.
Susan and Martin, That's The

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Vision very much.
So I'm delighted and I am so

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intrigued.
You have to tell us your

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background and how you came to
discover and develop the body of

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nine.
And I both grew up in the

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technology World in California.
And for me, I had three, kids

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and woke up on the other side of
30 or close to 40 and realized

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my life had not quite gone.
The way I had hoped and I had

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found myself very, to a drugs
individual.

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Yes, I'm not nice individual.
And I had to dig my way out of

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that.
As part of that process, I began

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to learn to be a life coach.
As part of that, I went to a

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leadership program with the
coach training institute in

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California.
And it was at that program, that

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I was introduced to what we call
my natural number.

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And when I found out how my body
was equipped and how that

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affected, how I experience in
life and how that was different

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than the other eight or nine,
natural numbers invalidate,

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everything about me that I loved
and nobody else seemed to get

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and it gave me so much
permission to be the powerful

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strong human than I am.
And for me, the honor and

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receive the gifts of others and
offer what I have to offer as a

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gift and Mar Came around 67
years after that.

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Yes, ight end up getting having
been an Overcoat on Yahoo and

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various other places in the Bay
Area.

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I came to this very, very
skeptical because this is a new

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idea, how could it possibly
exist because no one's ever

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heard of it?
And what does it mean if they

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were really nine?
Different kinds of people but

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over the last 14 years or so,
we've been, since we've been

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back together, last ten
explicitly, we've discovered by

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working with 8,000 people.
The truth of this reality that

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there are nine physiologically
different kinds of people,

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people tend to think.
Oh, yeah, everyone's the same.

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You Two ears, two eyes, nose and
mouth, those things, or

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everyone's completely different.
But the truth is they've been

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really nine different ways that
nature turns up and you've got

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more in common with someone of
your natural number, then you do

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the rest of your family because
we found very early on and it

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was a huge surprise that the
numbers don't repeat in

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families.
So you your brothers and sisters

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and your parents are different.
If you have children, you and

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your children, your partner are
different too.

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So if this is an amazing idea
that this information got lost

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thousands of years ago because
the Egyptians, the Indians and

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Chinese, all knew about it,
thousands of years ago.

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So what we've been doing.
Is working with people to bring

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this knowledge, back to the
world, because it makes such a

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difference in relationships.
Yes.

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And I knowing yourself and
finding that authentic place

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where we really, we all have
this nature within us that is

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born into us and with a come
gifts, and skills and abilities

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that we don't have to work at.
And because it's not understood

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by our mothers and fathers.
It's rarely honored, we're

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really honored and support it
for who we are.

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And so we spend our whole life.
You know, we nurture laying on

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top of this nature nature and
then later in life, we wake up

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and say God there was something
I knew when I was a kid that I

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would like to remember about who
I am and that tapping back into

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who you are on the nature and
underlies.

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The nurture is so powerful
because you don't have to work

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at it is who you are and then,
as you learn your.

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So, your first, you learn your
own natural number and that

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reactivates that nature for you,
then you can learn to activate

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the other nine, which adds new
perceptive abilities.

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So I can look at you and say, oh
okay, I see Jennifer has

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natural.
Number one, her throat is very

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long.
Her chin is very defined.

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She has soft receptive, eyes,
she sees in those Beauty, she

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creates Beauty.
That's the name of our podcast.

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These are all attributes of
people with natural number one.

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So I know that I need to meet
you where you live in this space

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of honoring connection.
Wow, I can't wait to learn more.

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And I wanted to go back because
it's really fascinating, how you

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mentioned ancient civilizations
that the Egyptians it Cetera had

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known about these specific
traits and it is amazing to me

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how we were so conscious as a
human society or as a race.

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And then there was a loss of
consciousness over time, and it

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might have been because of
industrialization.

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It could have been environmental
many reasons.

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And a lot of this mysticism had
always seemed a little bit.

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Woo over the past decades.
But now all of a sudden, we are

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waking up to spirituality,
understanding that there is

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something greater than ourselves
recognizing the, the reality of

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Geometry and numerology, and the
power of all of the Essences

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that go into a lot of the
dynamism of creation, the beauty

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of a snowflake, you know, all of
those things.

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And it's refreshing coming from
the Technology field realizing.

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Yeah, you know, you might have
been in bits and bytes before

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true, right?
And now, you've recognized, you

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know, there is this whole
spiritual mystical sense, which

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is very much real and powerful.
And if we could only tap into

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that and understand ourselves,
boy, we would be shortcutting a

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lot.
Lot of headaches and strife

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between relationships and
knowing ourselves and our own

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proclivities and rather than
fighting with ourselves, really

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loving ourselves for how we are
and our unique beings.

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You get it.
And this is a simple shortcut.

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It is a shortcut that lets go
back over and over and over

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again to that nature within you
and because it's for everybody

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based, we always start with the
body because you can see

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people's faces their bodies as
we talked about just now we can

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look at your face and say that's
natural number one.

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But Well, online centers and
numerology is all about the

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number 9.
So there is often a lot of math

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and connections between the
numbers.

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We have no idea how the numbers
got associated with a on the

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body.
No clue.

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But by being very careful,
observers and talking and

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listening to 8,000 people.
We know the relationship between

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the numbers and the numbers mean
things and it is this Connection

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to the Past.
That is the second stage that

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people come to.
Okay?

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This is my natural number.
What does it mean?

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What do the numbers mean?
Wouldn't you mangy means and the

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connection between the physical,
the Practical, and the The whoo,

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is there.
And the question is, which part

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do you want to follow?
There were both available to

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right?
And the numbers mean so many

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different interesting things.
The beauty of in is incredible.

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Really, as you talk about, you
know, like ratio fi out in

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nature how that creates it
expresses Beauty, we have body

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language like that as well, the
numerology of it as Martin said,

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it indicates the how the
different natural numbers work

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together.
The, after abuse and how the

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attributes support each other.
And then I come together to make

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a very particular kind of
wholeness, that's very And so we

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don't struggle as much also.
It's about costly going back to

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the body, as your source of
wisdom, we call it your physio

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spiritual nature.
Now that is going to rigging and

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that is something that I have
not necessarily heard of.

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I mean, I go back to the
Vitruvian man and just knowing

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about all of the, you know, the
different proportions and things

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like that.
That is just the essence of

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beauty within of human physique,
but as far as the differences I

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have not necessarily seen any
kind of personality assessments,

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hide I to the physio like you
have, but so that's where this

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came from because the people
that have recently discovered

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that there were nine physiology
different kinds of people, we're

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looking at, the any event, which
is a system of mine.

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Obviously.
And they realized that the way

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that they had used any typing on
a bunch of their students, each

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of the students with particular
any type did some weird similar

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physical things.
Well, I brought in martial arts,

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which was the physical part and
doing martial, arts exercises.

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They notice that people did
weird things and then they

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realized they did.
The same were things base, how

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they had matched up in the So we
took this knowledge to Burning

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Man in 2012 and gave it as a
gift and over the next few years

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as well.
Working with over 100 people a

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day thousand plus people over
the week and we could tell how

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the bodies were different and
this awareness of okay this is

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the body shape.
This is where you move from and

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we move our natural number
Center is part of the way we

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tell.
As we work with you before the

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podcast, you move vote.
I moved to the top of my head,

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Susan moves, my chest, and so,
just by looking at someone, even

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a young baby, you can see what
is their natural number.

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And so as As you said this lost
information, and if you go to

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Egypt, you can see on the pre
middle section V, 3500 BC, they

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have natural number physiology,
you can see it in statues, the

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faces of expression, I indicate
that they understood the

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physiological differences.
So we've been lucky enough

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standing on the shoulders of
giants, as they say to bring

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this back into the world,
because it really does help you

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connect to your physiology to
your spirituality, to your

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relationships.
It makes a whole human being

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yeah.
Makes Alive health, awful, lot

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easier.
Now, before we hit record, I did

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get my body of nine, number
measured by Susan and Martin.

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And as they mentioned, I did
come up as the number one and I

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would love for them to take us
through maybe a little snippet

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of each of the numbers to just
give us a taste for what anybody

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in those particular numbers can
expect.

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And then of course I would
invite you to actually have a

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session with Susan and Martin
yourself.

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So that That you can take a
deeper dive into the body of

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nine for yourself.
So why don't we?

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Yes, thank you one, we will
start with number one.

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So the move an area is under the
throat, it's between the chin

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and the top of the throat.
So it's right up here that if

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you move your tongue around, you
can actually feel those muscles

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move around underneath your
throat.

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You'll feel for you that there's
a little more attention there.

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Most people.
It's pretty soft because that's

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where you hold your end, send
connection energy to other

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people.
So one is about connection with

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other In order to help other to
know that they have value.

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So you live connected with
source and connected here in

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this physical world and you help
us to experience the beauty of

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source that is contained in
everything.

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You as we, like to say, that's
what number ones have been

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chosen to Bear.
The burden for the rest of us to

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know.
It's ok, not to be perfect

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because most natural.
Number ones.

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Have a voice that says, you're
not perfect.

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I love you.
And it's not a chosen voice.

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It is something that most net
number ones.

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Learn to move past but there's
no love you component that it's

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not and it's not if it's you
You're not perfect.

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I love you.
And as I say your goal, isn't

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it?
Number one is to use your

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amazing ability with words and
your understanding of the beauty

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of the world to help the rest of
a see that connection that we

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don't experience ourselves.
And to know the value that we

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have within each of us, it's a
very beautiful and challenging

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function and just to add
credibility to what.

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Susan, and Martin are saying
here, as most of, you know, I am

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the founder of the human Beauty
movement which is all about

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radical self-love self-esteem
and radical self.

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Russian.
And so it has been my life's

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purpose and my Dharma, which I
had only discovered late in life

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and if I had known my body of
nine, number earlier, I probably

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would have found it decades ago,
but it was truly something that

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I had to evolve into over life
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message when I received that

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calling, which was divine, which
was from Source, no question

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about it.
That this is what my purpose is.

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My role in life is to have this
compassion to have this feeling

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of love.
Unconditional unrequited, love

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for everybody.
Every human being that is

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walking the Earth and it is an
existence and to let them know

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that they matter.
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you will see those words and
Susan and Martin were able to

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nail that.
With looking at me for maybe 10

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15 seconds, they already knew
that about, so you did, yes,

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yes.
You are doing your natural

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purpose, right?
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about this stage in the world is
that there were more people, we

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work with them, bump into that
are in alignment with in Purpose

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and knowing it is the truly a
time of change for the good for

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Humanity.
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So natural number one about our
relationship is sourced and

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house worse is shaping our life
here in this world and that is

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very beautiful.
Natural.

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How do we dynamically?
Adjust to create Harmony in

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connection with each other?
And the movement said this here,

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the upper abs, that's what the
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And by, extending that, and push
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Eyes get brighter.
We enjoy the communication.

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And you can notice that we
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Yeah, well, we were part of our
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be with other people because
without being connected with

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other people, you really can't
do much each of us on alone.

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Is it a night?
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that we can actually make major
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And when you get groups of all
night together, it's a very

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calm, but powerful situation.
So natural numbers, 1, 2, 3 and

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4 are helping us to build some
kind of connection human

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connection.
What is our connection at the

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level of source?
2 is architecture of one on one.

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With each other 3 is our
connection soul to soul and

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that's about focused and looking
around your stuff and To the

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beauty of who you are. 3C are
amazing purpose and they invite

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us through joyful questioning to
become that inspires to be our

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best just by smiling on us.
We've all had the experience

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when someone Smiles as you
think.

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Father, feel so good.
Now, I'm really energized and

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I'm ready to do what I need to
do and that's natural number 33

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is the most hunters the top of
the sternum, there's a little

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bone, there's call the manure
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movement and they're typically,
very lean and straighten their

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bodies.
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the way into their eyes.
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you'll see the upper gum line.
You see the cheeks crinkle up on

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the outside and arms that have
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But yes, smile, so much, which
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They are the ones spreading Joy
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create a very particular kind of
connection for it's about

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knowing who we are on the
inside.

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So that it's dropping deep into
our bodies nor lower abdomen,

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which is removing area and using
our bodies to metabolize our

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emotions.
So that we can understand the

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wisdom held Emotions.
And then from that place of

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alignment was self through that.
Deep understanding how we feel

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about ourselves and our lives.
And what's around us, we can

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come out and be together in a
much more intimate way.

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Each of the natural numbers has
a different place different way

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of they're using words.
While Susan was talking, I moved

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International before and as you
can tell, my Pace has slowed and

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what measured, and I'm also more
in connection to my emotions and

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I'm feeling the joy of being
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But if I have to shake it off
and move back to my five, I

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speed up and Everything I talked
about, and who I am changing.

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So the ability to be other
people and the ability to

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demonstrate to meet them where
they live?

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Yes.
Yes.

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And to add to receive the gift
because you know, if you don't

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stop and look in the eyes of a 1
2, 3, or 4, they're not going to

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be able to offer you the gift
they offer.

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Yeah, there is five six, seven,
eight, and nine.

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Don't use the rise to create
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And oftentimes, we don't bother
to look at somebody because my

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natural numbers five and Susan
National be six and five, six,

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seven, eight, nine of much of
more about transformation.

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Ship as well transformation
first and 1234 relationship

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first but transformation, we're
not saying that a particular

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mode just as one thing, but
there were many people that

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would end the example.
We often use it, if your

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realtor, some of your clients,
want a relationship and to sell

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the house, the other people want
to sell the house and not with

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caring and the except about the
data.

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So just knowing that people are
different, mix two, huge things.

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So that's a number five, which
is my natural movement of the

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head.
It's about context helping

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people understand.
What do we know?

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What?
Don't we know.

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How can we move forward when we
don't know things.

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We need to know where we're at.
We need to know what the path,

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where are the snakes in the
mountains, on the map?

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And that's that's a six users
have been five years of the

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parietal bone to lift and the
side the muscles on the side of

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the head sighs have round chest
round eyes and the back of their

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head is usually bigger than the
other than average out in the

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world.
Six open areas on the center.

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On the sternum 6 is expand their
chest, to feel the energy in the

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space, they synthesize that
energy, and then they magnify

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it.
So others can feel it as well.

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Out.
So they take in what is wanting

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to happen in the uniform,
Universal field of Consciousness

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and then they help move the
community forward towards that

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goal, that Vision 7 good.
Okay, so this is the third eye

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that they use the frontalis
muscles in the blood clot Bella

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which is small, flat bone
between that just above the

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eyebrow line.
They often have a more prominent

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brow, a very infinite quality in
their eyes, they are here to

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help us grow and change the
change agents taking the people

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that are calling out things.
It can be done better.

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Always looking to make the world
a better place.

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Help you be a better person and
prove a process.

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So, their whole lives are
around, how do I make the world

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a better place?
And then eight is on the spine

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between the sacrum and uses the
body to connect to the Earth and

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then they use the energy and The
rhythms of the earth to create.

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They understand, the rhythm of
nature, the rhythm of the

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rivers, the rhythm of the Earth,
the air, you can feel your

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threes and they use that
connection to the power of Earth

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to create things that last and
matter, really technical with

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tremendous amount of integrity
and safety for the good of all.

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And that's one of nine is really
the center of the universe.

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The most bodies on the back of
the spine, between the shoulder

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blades and natural.
Number 9, understand the plays,

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feel the fourths.
Because they live in the fourth,

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they can feel the tides of the
world, they can fulfill the

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births and the deaths, and they
know that there is a rhythm to

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life.
There was a flow in a Harmony

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that we can live in and they
work hard to keep it hurt flow

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and Harmony going.
So that everyone around them get

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things done but using the
minimum force because they know

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that everything that we do
affects everyone around us

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constantly making small
adjustments to keep Life In

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Balance.
So natural numbers, one, two and

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three, four relationship first
five, six, seven, eight

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transformation in the
relationship.

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The even numbers, 2, 4 6, 8 of
everybody based, they live in a

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world where the reformed and
guided much more by their body.

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Whereas 1 3 5 7 and 9 in the odd
numbers a little bit less

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embodied, their spiritual
connections out of body work.

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Tooth great, the spiritual
connection, info body, but

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through the body.
So the use of the numbers is

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shorthand from who knows where
to help describe things as you

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probably know the Egyptians use
numbers as shorthand because

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number actually can tell you
more than the words of around

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them, right.
In the words, can mislead one of

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the things that we have
observed, in our 10,000

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conversations is that words are
slippery.

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Especially big words like
connection, engagements, energy

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intuition, there are nine.
Definitions of each of those

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words.
I mean, How you do those things?

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We all have intuition.
The way we tap our intuition,

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you get the seventh out there
and they're always trying to

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teach people how they can open
their third eye and bring in and

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receive messages.
Well that's natural for them and

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they don't know why everybody
doesn't just do that and they're

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out there trying to teach us how
to use our intuition the way

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they do.
Well you can learn to activate

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your 7 and receive it tuition
that way.

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Absolutely available to you but
they don't know that other

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people aren't equipped to do
that.

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Naturally, for example, yeah, so
this is tremendous information.

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To understand the gifts that we
give us has to offer and how we

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can use them to expand our
perception of reality

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understanding that people are
not like you.

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And what they care about is
different than what you care

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about.
We often hear from people that

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have the one, two, three fours
people aren't looking at me.

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They're not respecting me.
It's not about respected.

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But how do you, how are you in
the world?

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How do you process information
out and just understanding that

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the people around you especially
close to you.

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Not like you is a huge gift and
then you can start asking people

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keeping your gift.
It's not a question of Don't be

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difficult.
It's give me a gift and

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accepting the gift of other
people.

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Give you.
This is just so fascinating and

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I love that you are able to just
instantaneously or so.

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Learn it about it, be able to
spot.

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Oh you're a one, your five,
you're a nine you know just off

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the bat.
I think that's very very useful.

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I'm also fascinated about
genetics and the fact that you

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said that the numbers don't
necessarily congeal or

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conglomerate within families.
It's always that there are

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different ones and I wonder how
can that be when you've got the

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same body types?
And even in Nations or in

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geographies that people have
certain traits, that make them

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look like a certain culture.
There is a cultural overlay on

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top of sure that a culture that
doesn't respect eye contact or

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example, makes life hard for
some people that need icon.

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Do what we see is this crosses
race gender, culture, education

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and Archer because it is the
nature and it doesn't matter

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whether you have more in common
with a person with whom you

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share, natural number and anyone
in your family, we have not seen

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repeats in nuclear families that
Have less than nine people.

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Twins are not the same triplets
are not the same.

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We think that's how you could
tell me about.

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I'm gonna ask that to about
twins and triplets and other

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multiples all difference as to
how we don't know, for sure.

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We have some guesses and we
believe that epigenetics is got

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a lot to do with it.
The science of epigenetics is

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starting to go into.
How does your environment change

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your DNA?
And there is certainly, I'm sure

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you've been wearing your
listeners.

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That there are intergenerational
Karma.

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If you want things that passed
down from family to family, Me

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and this the same stuff, some
people call it the morphic

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field.
There are various theories about

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how does information get past?
You know, between birds or

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animals down to their offspring
but epigenetics is a possible

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answer but we don't know enough
to be able to say definitive

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that's what it is right?
Because what we see is

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firstborns often repeat the
grandparents except if you've

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married one of the energies of
your parents which is very

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common as well, we're attracted
to energies that we know well

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and so the quality of
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We often end up in jail.
In relationship with people who

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are attracted to, which can be
good if you had a healthy

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relationship and not so good if
you didn't, right?

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So if you're looking to heal
that trauma within a new

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relationship, can be pretty
Rocky because it's very easy to

455
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,100
project onto that relationship.
But the point is that you often

456
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:49,000
marry one of your parents
natural numbers, and your spouse

457
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,300
does too, but the ones that you
didn't marry repeat in the

458
00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:54,300
firstborn grandchildren, a lot
of the cases.

459
00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,200
If we don't have enough, we
don't seem to know more.

460
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,900
We think it's very likely but we
don't have enough data to stick

461
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,500
with that.
In the ground.

462
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,100
But we do know that the numbers
don't repeat the fan is that

463
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,700
we've talked to and there is a
tiny chance that the numbers

464
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,200
start to repeat as they go.
So we've worked with many

465
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,800
families that were the eighth
and Ninth Children of the same

466
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,000
as the parents that have to be.
And then there is a tiny chance

467
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,600
that then starts repeating the
same cycle.

468
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,100
But we don't have enough data
research to be done.

469
00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:22,200
Yeah, I'm also curious about
training because and I know

470
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,800
that, you know, there's an
inherent naturalness to the

471
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800
number.
But as far as movement goes, for

472
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,700
example, when I was younger
since I was the age of 40, Years

473
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:31,500
old.
I was put into ballet classes

474
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:35,300
and there's a certain life and
there's a certain characteristic

475
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:38,200
of the ballet dancer and the way
that you hold yourself and the

476
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600
way that you express a lot of it
is up here you know when you're

477
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:48,700
getting it was natural for you.
That's two things happen.

478
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,900
Why there is the nurture and
you're taught various things,

479
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,800
whatever your talk, whether it's
sports or dancing music, you're

480
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,900
taught by someone of a
particular natural number.

481
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,100
But if you look at ballet,
that's a perfect example.

482
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,900
But I Is known for its
mannerisms, its movements.

483
00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,400
And we see a lot of natural
number one's going to ballet

484
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,600
because it supports them
actually come which is the body.

485
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000
Hey, it's like it's this up and
lifted and, you know, and that

486
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,000
open throat, it movement where
the list is coming from here and

487
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,800
that is natural for natural
number one so, but if you see a

488
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800
natural number nine, ballerina,
for example, where the movement

489
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,400
is the pack, but you see is this
tremendous fluidity?

490
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,400
And they look like the bird
that's floating across the

491
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,400
stage, you know, that very, very
different than that, elegant.

492
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:32,300
Oneness that comes when you lift
and move from your throat.

493
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:34,000
Yeah.
We're not saying at all, we find

494
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
not to be natural numbers.
If you roll over the, we're not

495
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400
saying at all that, any
particular person has to do.

496
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,600
But if you think, but how they
do, it is completely very much

497
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,300
affected by the natural number.
Right?

498
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800
If you understand where your
activated, your body can really

499
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,700
have tremendous benefit for
performance because if you, you

500
00:23:50,708 --> 00:23:53,400
know, if you had no, when you
were young you were a one psycho

501
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,100
piece of cake here.
No problem.

502
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,100
It was easy for you.
That part was easy for you.

503
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:00,100
Yeah.
And I did things that not Vivi

504
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,800
other things but yeah, Cults to
get into it.

505
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,900
Almost feels like pulling teeth,
right?

506
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:09,800
Exactly, exactly.
Now, I see being a five and a

507
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,600
six.
Where do you find?

508
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,000
That there is a natural
proclivity for numbers that are

509
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,600
close together and then, even
odd to do well in a

510
00:24:18,608 --> 00:24:20,300
relationship.
Or does it not sir?

511
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,700
Yeah, so yes.
And yes.

512
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:27,400
And any to any two numbers will
form a relationship cancer and

513
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,200
there will be predictable
traits.

514
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,000
And challenges associated with
that combination.

515
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,500
Having said that, we do see some
more commonly than others.

516
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:38,200
And we do also find far as we
can tell, we're not therapist as

517
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,400
far as we can tell.
And even an odd number Works,

518
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,800
slightly more easily and to
evens or towards.

519
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:44,200
But it's not something that we
could say.

520
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,900
Well yeah, but if you're, you
know, even with it even, it's

521
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:48,900
perfectly, okay.
Yeah, no problem.

522
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:50,900
Yeah, we know, just create
something different.

523
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,700
The thing to remember those for
your children is that we can

524
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,800
anticipate.
What's going to be easy and hard

525
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,400
for your children as they grow
up and for you as a parent and

526
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,700
how do you know how they met?
To be apparently because first

527
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:03,300
thing to remember is they're not
like you, and so, what you would

528
00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:06,000
like, what you wanted, a child
isn't going to help him too

529
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,300
much.
This is finished a chapter in a

530
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:11,100
book, called raising Wild Ones,
it's out on Amazon and it's

531
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,300
about we identified all the
author's.

532
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:15,900
If it's about, how do you
actually authentically support

533
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,100
your children so you don't do
inadvertent harm and that don't

534
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,400
necessarily fall prey to what
the belief systems out there in

535
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,300
the world are telling you how to
raise your kid and that is very

536
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:29,700
it's a good book actually and we
also integrated by the Nine and

537
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,300
there's three or four parents
and their have known.

538
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:33,400
They're not remember their kids
and they talk about how

539
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,300
differently they work.
With each child and your

540
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:40,000
children, don't need to be
treated equally and or fairly

541
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,600
necessarily, they each need
something very very different

542
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,100
and when you understand that, it
makes you a better parent.

543
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,100
And one of the interesting
things that Susan said, to very

544
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,400
important phrases that are going
to impact you and I differently

545
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,000
Jennifer.
She said equally or fairly

546
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,900
that's number.
Five is very much about fairness

547
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:54,100
which is not necessarily a
natural.

548
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,200
Number one is very much about
equality, which isn't

549
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000
necessarily fair.
So just being aware the way that

550
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,800
I would have.
Situation is not necessarily

551
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,400
best.
For my children, is a great of

552
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600
the look, right?
And that was a big deal for him.

553
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,900
When we first got together, my
kids were already 10 and 12 14,

554
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,800
and he came in and wanted to
treat everybody fairly.

555
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000
I'm like, I don't treat my kids
fairly really don't and he

556
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
didn't get that for a while
until we figured it out as a

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400
family and he's brought fairness
into the family because none of

558
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,200
the rest of us actually cared
about that.

559
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,200
It wasn't the value that we were
working on.

560
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,100
But the understanding about what
was appropriate versus fair was

561
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,600
used For everybody.
Yes, so we learned together to

562
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:36,100
create the best connections for
the family, based off our

563
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:38,100
natural numbers.
So my youngest daughter is a

564
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:39,900
natural number two, all about
connection.

565
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:43,000
The rest of us were five, six,
seven, and eight and we don't

566
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
care about that stuff.
When we would sit down and not

567
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600
make eye contact.
And she learned to give us

568
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,200
structures to help us to engage
with her because that work for

569
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,700
us.
So just understanding how those

570
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:56,000
Dynamics play out.
There's a lot of very Cosmic

571
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,600
jokes out there.
You'll see families, where the

572
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,300
parents are both.
One, two, three or four doll.

573
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,900
Get certified through 9 or vice
versa and the parents are going.

574
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,300
Look at me when I'm talking to
you and the kids go, I can hear

575
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:08,000
you, you know whether I'm
looking at you or not, you know,

576
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,800
those are silly, simple,
examples of how powerful that's

577
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,600
excellent.
And I actually am thinking about

578
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,500
my own upbringing where I was
adopted.

579
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,500
I was raised by a white family,
youngest out of six.

580
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:23,600
Three of us were adopted three
were natural.

581
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,100
And the upbringing was my mother
was British.

582
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:30,300
My father is American and it was
very parochial It was extremely

583
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:34,600
disciplinarian, and I did not do
very well in that environment

584
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800
and even in growing up with
like, rigid religious structure.

585
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,000
I later in life, recanted that?
Because it just wasn't my

586
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,900
nature.
And in my values that I truly

587
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,800
believed resonated with My Soul.
So the point of like getting

588
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,300
nurtured to a point where you
feel that it's just not you,

589
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,000
it's not really who you really
are inside.

590
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,400
And a lot of people, a lot of
young people do struggle with

591
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,100
that because they are
disciplined in a Way, they're

592
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:04,000
brought up a specific way and
it's not in relation to how they

593
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,700
can flourish and Thrive.
Absolutely, for you as a

594
00:28:06,708 --> 00:28:08,500
natural.
Number one, you have a built-in

595
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:10,400
moral compass.
You're never going to do

596
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,800
something that is not right, you
know and you understand the

597
00:28:13,808 --> 00:28:15,900
difference between right and
wrong and you've already beat

598
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:19,200
yourself up 10 times before your
mother even knows you did

599
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,600
something wrong.
Yeah.

600
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,100
And so that just reinforces for
our poor natural, number ones,

601
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,300
you know, this idea that they
are not worthy of this

602
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,600
tremendous gift that you have of
helping us, see a no Beauty And

603
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600
no sores.
That's a huge gift.

604
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000
But there's a unworthiness that
will wheedle its way.

605
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600
And then option number one
children without the parents

606
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,500
realizing because they put so
much discipline or suggestion.

607
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:45,100
Even the turns into criticism in
the body of the land, the so

608
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,600
much Purity and you'll natural.
Number one is the purity of

609
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,200
source that it is hard to live
in a world where that is

610
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,900
constrained by somebody else's
set of rules if you will.

611
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:59,000
Oh yeah, that completely
resonates with me.

612
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,200
For sure.
Wow.

613
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,600
So it how does this relate to
the chakras at all?

614
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Because I know that there's a
lot of sevens within like music.

615
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,500
There's a seven notes and
colors, the seven colors of the

616
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,300
rainbow, the seven chakras.
And so, but with the body of

617
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:19,700
well, oh, forgive me for you.
And I know that most people know

618
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:23,600
about, but then it goes up and,
and there's definitely and so,

619
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,900
even though it's real three
answers to that one of which

620
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:34,500
only County last night.
So this The centers in the body

621
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:36,000
are co-located with the
shuttles.

622
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,500
As far as we can, tell the heart
sharper, how having three having

623
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,200
the three energies, three, six
and nine.

624
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,100
The actually you can say there
are nine colors in the rainbow

625
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:48,200
so the other two missing colors
are the green cyan William green

626
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,300
and say.
Yeah, right, so it still works

627
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,800
within the color system, I
believe in it came to me last

628
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,300
night or this morning in the
dream.

629
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,900
That the reason that 7 is
important is because when you

630
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:00,600
have two parents to get Then you
need the other seven.

631
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,400
So seven is an important
addition to the family.

632
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
It's a family thing where once
you have the parents plus seven

633
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,300
children, and if you look at
Aladdin, it came to realize that

634
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,200
the Seventh Son of the Seventh
Son, so it is an important

635
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,700
number, but I think it completes
the nine when you have the

636
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,700
parents there.
So that's I just literally made

637
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:20,500
that up today and this is you
well, but it totally lies what I

638
00:30:20,508 --> 00:30:22,500
would say.
Long time, we used to have

639
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,000
really large families.
Yeah, because we don't have

640
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,500
birth control so over the
natural course of a woman's

641
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,000
life.
That contraception she would

642
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800
have some around nine ten
eleven.

643
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,000
Well, at least seven, right.
And but maybe she had a few

644
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,300
extra whatever to because, yeah,
just because that's the way it

645
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:45,700
was but you have a lot of kids
and so family units had all

646
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,500
nine, that's what numbers but
today they don't.

647
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,900
We usually stop at two, three,
four, five people at a family.

648
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:56,100
And what that means is you can
grow up never having known at a

649
00:30:56,108 --> 00:30:58,400
deep level people of the other
natural numbers.

650
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:02,600
So You like my mother's one, my
dad was an 8.

651
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,600
My sisters are for.
She had a one-in-eight repeated

652
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,000
my parents because she didn't
marry.

653
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,300
I had a 2 out of 5 and 7.
So in our family, we have 1 2 5,

654
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,600
7 8.
We have no 3 and 9 in our part

655
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,300
of the family.
And what that means is, we don't

656
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,100
know, 389 very well.
So that's one side of the

657
00:31:19,108 --> 00:31:20,200
equation.
The other side of the equation

658
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,300
is, looking at, okay, astrology
and human design.

659
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000
We completely and firmly,
believe there is a connection.

660
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,100
We don't know what it is.
Nope.

661
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
We know that human design works
and We're both human designs.

662
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,600
Very, very accurate astrology.
All sorts of fun stories with

663
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,700
the stores.
You and I was at Yahoo but we

664
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,400
don't know exactly.
Clearly not everyone born at the

665
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
same place the same time as the
same natural number, right?

666
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,400
That's what we do.
But we don't know because you

667
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
don't have data on to the second
right?

668
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Or and is it conception versus
birth?

669
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,300
What is that?
We don't know, but it's fun to

670
00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:53,500
think about, they were
absolutely more things in the

671
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,000
world and that's part of our
Mantra to everyone.

672
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,700
He's don't disbelieve your
magic, don't disbelieve the

673
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,500
magic that You as a child and
the universe is a magical place,

674
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,500
right?
And this, your natural number

675
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,200
gives you access to the magic
and then your body through the

676
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,200
learning to activate the other
eight starts to expand the

677
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,900
magical of possibilities for
you.

678
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,100
We're having a workshop in a
twenty third fourth and fifth to

679
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,800
learn to activate all nine
natural numbers to Julie.

680
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:19,700
Yeah.
And we're going to have probably

681
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,200
20 people there.
It's very exciting for us and we

682
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200
know that we're going to expand
the awareness of what's possible

683
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,900
for human beings at that
workshop.

684
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,300
And that is so cool because we
really Believe that this is an

685
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,300
opportunity for Humanity to
evolve back to her, that's where

686
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,900
we were before the industrial
work before, the things that

687
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:37,500
changes that you for the nurture
layered.

688
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,200
So heavily on us, that we cannot
explore our nature.

689
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Because this gives us hope this
Charles that we're going to end

690
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,600
up like Mad Max, North under
them.

691
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,600
But I think with everyone and
everything, because of the

692
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,300
ability for us, that we evolved
to get back to this place where

693
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:54,500
our egos are companions.
Not protectors, you have to

694
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,400
place where we can't be
manipulated by peer pressure

695
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
because we know who we are and
what we can.

696
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:02,300
And word choice in our lives.
Yeah, and our bodies are a

697
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,300
source of wisdom.
Instead of something that we

698
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,900
just ignore says, lots of
possibilities here.

699
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Yeah.
So in conclusion, I know that

700
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,900
you were saying like when
somebody knows what their

701
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:14,200
natural number is, then they can
lead healthier and happier

702
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
lives.
Can you sum up like, you know,

703
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600
in a nutshell like once somebody
knows this, what would they be

704
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,300
empowered to do?
How would they be empowered to

705
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,500
feel?
How would they be able to better

706
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,900
relate to those that are of
different numbers and be able to

707
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,200
kind of tap into that into
Tuition that you were talking

708
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,100
about.
Well, I can't do it.

709
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,500
So the first thing is you start
to know yourself, right?

710
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,600
I what I thought was a six was
like, okay, cool.

711
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800
It's okay to be me so I can
start loving myself.

712
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,700
Also have a simple physical way
to get present when I get

713
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,000
Trigger or upset.
So, all I have to do is take a

714
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,300
deep breath in my chest.
Roll my shoulders, expand my

715
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,200
chest and now I'm more present.
There are nine different ways to

716
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,900
do that.
There's dying versions of, but

717
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,200
it simple with the posture, just
relax, the body, and then make

718
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,100
yourself as upright as you can
and you will naturally activate

719
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,600
your movement area.
That helps you connect your

720
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,400
natural purpose, it helps you
listen to your body, it helps

721
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,300
you understand.
What are your beliefs that have

722
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:15,000
been given to you versus?
What is truly yours?

723
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,400
And so when someone comes at you
and says this is the way the

724
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
world is, you can tell now that
doesn't work for me.

725
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,000
You get to this place of being
able to be more in control of

726
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000
yourself, more a choice.
It might get much more choice

727
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,100
and things.
You can learn how to make wise

728
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,000
decisions.
You can take courageous actions.

729
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,600
Also, you can learn to activate
the other parts of the body so

730
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,900
that you can.
So when I'm working with you I

731
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:38,199
do to raise my 290 to soften my
eyes.

732
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,500
I know look in the camera
because you're looking at me.

733
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:44,199
And when I look at the camera
you could feel me more easily.

734
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:48,800
I know how to honor you.
I know if I'm a good friend of

735
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400
yours that I never ever ever.
Ever criticize you ever because

736
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,699
that criticism would turn into
self-judgment so quickly.

737
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:57,700
It was we have no service
whatsoever.

738
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,000
I there's no I know that about
you because you're a one and I

739
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,800
know that about, you know, I've
a one mother, I mistakenly Javid

740
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,000
her all the time and I feel
really bad about it and because

741
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,900
I know how she respond when you
know, people around you, if your

742
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,300
working environment and you know
the people, you know, if you

743
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,700
have a problem of certain way,
you know, who to go talk to her

744
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:16,900
about it.
Because I had a problem

745
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,600
yesterday as I wanted to look at
something, make something really

746
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,400
pretty and That's not me, no
matter what I try to do, would

747
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,300
not look beautiful.
So, I asked somebody else that

748
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,000
has a much better understanding
of beauty.

749
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,100
How should it look?
And it looks much better because

750
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,500
I went to someone that is an
expert in their bodies about

751
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,700
right and eye contact.
Who do you make eye contact with

752
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,600
and who do not make eye contact?
These are simple really powerful

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,800
adjustments that you can learn
by knowing your net.

754
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,100
Remember knowing the number of
the people around you or even

755
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,800
just being aware like as soon as
you got on, I could tell from

756
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,000
your eyes and the way you
greeted us.

757
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,100
The way you held us, the will
help with articulate way that

758
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,300
you spoke, you had to be a
connector.

759
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,400
You have to be a 1, 2, 3 or 4
and your Oneness just presented

760
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,700
itself immediately in the subtle
movement in from here, and

761
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,500
you're dead.
So we can learn to start to see

762
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:08,400
those things in the world around
us, which makes us easier to be

763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200
with, and easier to be with
others.

764
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,300
Amazing.
And then, there are other

765
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,000
personality assessments, and you
mentioned Enneagram before, and

766
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,300
I was curious about the
interrelated ability of that as

767
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,600
well as Carl Jung and the jungle
in, Also, personalities.

768
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Is there hasn't been any
correlation there?

769
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,600
Hello.
And um, please answer is a lot.

770
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,300
So, everything I kind of semi
jokingly say, if you go and do

771
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:33,500
Myers-Briggs, they're going to
ask you a bunch of questions

772
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:35,100
that's going to tell you how
you're going to answer a bunch

773
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,800
of questions.
So the awareness there is what

774
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,800
they do is they put people in
the buckets then they

775
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,400
statistically analyze those
buckets.

776
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800
And then say, okay, this is the
way most people in these buckets

777
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,300
work.
We do it slightly differently in

778
00:36:45,308 --> 00:36:47,900
that we look at your body.
That's we looked at your body.

779
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:50,000
We're listening to 1,000 people
said about that way.

780
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,500
Reality.
We don't make this stuff up.

781
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:53,900
We're going to be as come from
the thousands of people we've

782
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,800
talked to because we don't use
language the same way.

783
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,100
And if there are truly fly
physiologically different kinds

784
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,300
of people, which our research
shows that there are indeed we

785
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:06,700
can consistently and repeatedly
make people aware of this.

786
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,300
Then, all of the other systems
come out of the fact that we

787
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:13,000
have these nine, right?
And they are the best version of

788
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,700
noticing, how effective was
that.

789
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,800
Whoever came up with this
system, how good were they are

790
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,500
noticing?
I'm even going back in those

791
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,000
days.
Did already started separate?

792
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,600
Separate out the physicality
from the science from the

793
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,800
physiology from the
philosophical Sophie.

794
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:28,000
So this is a place as we use,
that's why we say physio.

795
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Spiritual at the place where we
bring ourselves back hole and

796
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,400
you can look at each attribute
and say well this is a Spartans

797
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,900
and you wanted you at the new
numbers are there.

798
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:39,800
Yeah.
But if you look at the way young

799
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,500
sort of spread it out, it very
easily falls back into, okay?

800
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,200
This is the way that the world
is even if you go and further

801
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200
back, you look at Pythagoras,
Pythagoras actually split the

802
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,700
world into five different.
Kinds of people and as it turns

803
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,900
out, those kind of people 15,
which is to the connector,

804
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,900
versus the non connector version
2 and 6, 3 & 7 & 4 & 8, in the

805
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:02,800
commonalities, there are insane.
So once you have the connector E

806
00:38:02,808 --> 00:38:05,900
versus non connector e and the
line underneath holding it all

807
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,700
you, get back to nine again.
So this stuff is not unknown,

808
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,100
just broke it in different ways.
The fundamental difference is,

809
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,700
body of nine is based off your
body.

810
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,300
The rest of them are looking at
Behavior and the way you answer

811
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:21,000
questions to lump you into a
bucket, we It lump you into a

812
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,500
bucket based off your body.
And then, tell you what, people,

813
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,800
like you have said, about what?
It's like to live in that kind

814
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,700
of money because the behavior is
very much about how do your body

815
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,400
interpret, what your senses are
turning.

816
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,500
Right, right.
And what about have you studied

817
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:35,900
anybody that it was
neurodivergent?

818
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:38,700
I'm just curious how that comes
out if they have maybe a social

819
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:42,200
disorder where they don't like
to look at people or there are

820
00:38:42,207 --> 00:38:45,200
certain aspects of their
personality where it might be

821
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,400
enhanced because of their
natural number or be it's due to

822
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,700
their natural number.
I'm not sure in A way that it's

823
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,400
presenting itself, we've worked
with many people that have

824
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,100
various ways of being in the
world and sometimes there's a

825
00:38:58,107 --> 00:39:01,100
Mist diagnosis based on their
natural number.

826
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
So for example, and that's
number three is can be really,

827
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,100
really focused.
And if you take your child to

828
00:39:05,107 --> 00:39:07,800
somewhere and they complain that
your child is very very focused.

829
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,200
It may just be their natural
number three.

830
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,500
They don't have any of the
pathologies that the psychiatric

831
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,900
World wants them to have.
But it's just yeah, I think they

832
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,600
see it and they can be the
behavior sort of at the outside

833
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:22,500
of the healthy range, right?
So hyper Focus ADHD might be

834
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:25,700
four, threes, and then.
So we worked with them recently.

835
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:29,600
We work with young woman who had
Encephalitis when she was born.

836
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,300
And she had a very large head,
but she was a five also, which

837
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,700
was interesting, you know, and
we can still tell from the

838
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:37,500
physiology where Brooke people
that are blind.

839
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,500
We work with people that I have
physical disabilities.

840
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:44,200
We worked cross-culturally
subcultures eye contacts, not.

841
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,800
Okay, so, all the one, two
threes and fours or like, you

842
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,200
look at me as a going to be
safe.

843
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:49,900
They're checking before they
actually make the eye.

844
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,500
Cons one thing that makes it
hard but not impossible is

845
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:55,400
severe trauma.
Because if you are a body based

846
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,300
on the even number and you've
had some really severe physical

847
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:00,700
trauma, you're going to separate
from your body which makes your

848
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:03,400
life really hard because your
body's wisdom is you're

849
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,600
separated from your source of
wisdom.

850
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,500
So, but again, time and time
again, your body is going to

851
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,800
show up as your body, right?
And there's so many indicators,

852
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,800
it's not just one thing.
It's the muscle hole in your

853
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,700
face is the quality of your
eyes.

854
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,800
It's the structure of your body
is how you initiate movement.

855
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:21,600
It's where you little Tell
movements I was talking to my

856
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,600
friend, he's a to and she does
this to do this little like,

857
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,900
rolling shaky thing from the
middle of their bodies, that

858
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:30,700
that you really can't do if you
aren't a to.

859
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:32,900
And I was like, oh my God, my
daughter does the very same

860
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:35,900
movement and used to start to
see that the micro movement in

861
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,100
the micro gesture and micro
differences in the shape of the

862
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,700
face.
Your 6 is have a jolly quality,

863
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,100
this more cheek between the nose
and the lips than other people.

864
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,400
It's a slight difference in the
angle of the mouth.

865
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,900
So these things are very
defined.

866
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,800
Well yeah, ponies source of
wisdom for all of us at some

867
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,400
level and that very big Tails.
If you go back to the theory,

868
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,900
says that between 50 and 80
percent of all Communications

869
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,300
body to body, the rest is tone.
And then the words.

870
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,100
So, our bodies are different
nine ways at Tony's very

871
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,500
dependent on natural number.
And what I meant words means

872
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:09,100
depend on natural sometimes.
We're kind of amused that we can

873
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,700
even communicate at all as we
are.

874
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400
And we know the stuff we still.
Yeah, there's there's for like

875
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,700
he's doing his fighting again,
okay?

876
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Yes, madam.
Nothing.

877
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,500
But that can I gonna do is going
to be able to change that part

878
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,900
of Mars.
But if we want to connect, we

879
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,000
can activate a nice number two,
small each other.

880
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,500
Yeah.
And there's been very helpful

881
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,000
and I guess it's important to
know that I would imagine that

882
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,200
no one number is better or worse
than the other number.

883
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Also, they are all, they are all
equally important.

884
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,900
Yes, you can be like I wish I
was a to worry.

885
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,500
Oh not at all sir but if you
don't think our natural number

886
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:49,900
if you don't burn yourself.
Yeah your guess you you go.

887
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,600
To make a big difference by not
showing up.

888
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Yes.
That's how a man's if you've got

889
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,300
five or six people and one
person is like well I'm just not

890
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,800
going to play today.
Then it makes a huge difference

891
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,600
that that person is not their
natural number.

892
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:04,600
Wow.
Susan and Martin, how

893
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,300
insightful.
So, now, if somebody was very

894
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:10,800
interested in learning more or
taking a next step and working

895
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,500
with you, how would they do that
go to body of nine.com?

896
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,700
And we have four different ways?
You can get identified, we have

897
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,700
group sessions where you can
join with a bunch of other

898
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:21,100
people.
We do like, Did with you on Zoom

899
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,600
where we have people moving and
then we talk to them about it,

900
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,900
to make sure it's resonates.
And then we talked to the whole

901
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:28,000
group in and those are fun
because you get to see other

902
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,700
people are like, oh, they aren't
like me and Susan, Martin did

903
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,600
something different with them.
Why did they do that?

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So much more interesting or you
can have a private session or

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you can do couple, you know, you
and your spouse or you and your

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family.
And so those are that's the

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starting place.
And then we work with coaches

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and holistic, practitioners and
Publishers and authors and

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leaders who take this out into
the different organizations,

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already working groups.
Sports, we've worked with sports

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teams and they've changed by a
player play the game so that

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goes to strength of engine
players.

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So anybody that's wanting to
grow more in a very new Leading

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Edge kind of way.
Yeah, so our website is the

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first place to start body of
nine.com.

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We also have a couple of books
that we've written that are on

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Amazon.
We have our decoder physiology,

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discover your true self and then
we have body of nine practices

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for presence.
So what do you do with this

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knowledge to become more present
and more choice?

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So we dude what Chop the Susan
mentioned, where we teach people

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how to activate all known
centers in the body, which is

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always a fun as life-changing
experience, life-changing

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experience.
Absolutely brilliant will Susan

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and Martin Fisher.
I am so delighted that I had the

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opportunity to go through the
body of nine with you and then

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share it to our audience.
I think that it is really

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fascinating and I'm thrilled to
let everybody know about this

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pretty.
I would say new but old kind of

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way of tapping into what you are
all about, all of your natural

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abilities, all your natural
proclivities and have better

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relationships more.
More happiness, more helpfulness

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in your life.
So I appreciate you being my

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guest today.
Thank you, very much.

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Thank you.
A great time.