Episode 9: Logan Alcosiba, Trans Model Activist - How I Set Myself Free

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Hello, beautiful humans.
Welcome to another episode of

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Role Models juicy conversations
with beautiful humans.

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I'm Jennifer Norman founder of
the human Beauty movement and

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your host.
Well, it is June.

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It is pride month and it is the
perfect time to introduce you to

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my extraordinary.
Guest Logan, Alka seba when

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Logan was only 15 years old?
She bravely shared her truth

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that she was a transgender
woman.

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Fortunately Logan's announcement
was predominantly met with

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support.
She would go on to become her

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City's first openly gay
transgender athlete and ASB

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president and homecoming.
Queen, one of the first for

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California and during High
School.

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Logan was medically,
transitioning, breaking down

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barriers and transgender
healthcare.

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She became the first known minor
of Kaiser Permanente to be.

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Proved for and undergo gender
affirmation surgery, allowing

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future youth similar
opportunities today.

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Logan is a model represented by
agencies and La New York and

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London and it's Logan's mission
to achieve better representation

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for all including transgender
women of color.

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So that one day, it will no
longer be necessary to come out.

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Welcome.
Logan.

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Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.

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I am so pleased.
To have you here.

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So let's start it out.
I'd love to win back to the

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early days and what you were
like as a child.

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What your family was like,
please share as much as you'd

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like.
Yeah of course.

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When I was a toddler it was
pretty evident to my parents.

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I was more feminine whenever me
and my younger sister would play

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dress-up or play with toys.
I always gravitated towards more

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feminine, toys, feminine,
clothing.

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And my parents they didn't
really necessarily care about

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that.
They were very easy.

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Wang and just thought, oh, she's
a toddler.

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You know, this is just a time to
play.

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It wasn't that serious?
And so that was just me, having

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fun.
And my parents were just being

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great parents, and letting me
have fun and I didn't even

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realize I was different until I
entered kindergarten because I

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showed up to class one day,
wearing pink nail polish and one

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of my classmates had pointed
that out to the rest of the

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class.
And that's when a lot of them

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came in, and And started poking
fun at me and calling me names

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and stuff like that.
Obviously, I felt a bit

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embarrassed and more insecure
because I didn't realize that

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that was quote-unquote wrong
after that event happened.

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I restricted myself more from
expressing my feminine side and

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not necessarily playing with the
same toys to play with or where

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the same things I used to wear,
and it was a bit debilitating at

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such a young age to realize how
- the world.

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Be towards your own self
expression C.

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And so, then after that, you
essentially felt like you had to

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hide who you were, and you were
doing that all the way up until

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High School, right?
Correct.

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Correct.
Because the following year,

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after kindergarten, I had
learned about Gwen araujo.

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And she was a 17 year old
transgender Latino who lived in

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my hometown of Newark,
California.

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And I learned her story when I
was 7 years old at my birthday

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party and her I wasn't told in a
necessarily validating way

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because it was still the early
2000s had the time, but I

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understood that she was trans
like me was a color like me and

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looked in my hometown and I also
learned that she was murdered

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because she was trams and
hearing that story at such a

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young age after identifying with
the one and only person.

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I knew who to identify with
that, that age.

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It was so frightening.
I was just frozen in fear at the

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prospect of Being killed because
of who I am and joining that in,

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with already being teased about
my self expression.

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I felt it was necessary to
completely hide, who I was for

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my own safety.
And so, I very much policed my

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thoughts.
My actions, my words, just any

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kind of behaviors, that could be
coded as feminine.

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I restricted that and it just
became a very isolating

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experience, all those years from
my childhood and to my

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adolescence and I just I felt
extremely guilty because I

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wasn't sharing who I truly was
with the people.

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I care the most about who I knew
cared about me, but there was

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this mentality, that kind of
invaded.

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My thoughts in that, whenever
someone would say I love you in

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my head, I would think no, you
don't because you don't know who

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I am true.
And so thinking that over years

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and years, I felt so lonely
because I believe, no one knew

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who I was and I felt like
Couldn't share who I was with

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anyone.
I just didn't know what to do

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throughout my day of my entire
childhood.

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I didn't know what to do for
years because I just felt so

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alone and I didn't know how to
reach out to people.

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What was the Turning Point
ultimately that caused you to

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really find that courage to even
despite how you knew that

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certain Trends people were being
treated, how your family might

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be perceiving you what was it
that all the sudden at the age

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of 15 caused you to say?
I need to be true to who I

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really am.
One of the turning points was

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actually in junior high, when I
first learned about the word

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transgender, so having that
access to language You find

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community and to know that yes
we are out there.

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Yes, we have existed because
that because of knowing the word

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transgender and that was just
because of the internet because

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I had remembered when story.
And so I looked her up you know

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on Wikipedia I found myself
seeing her story from A New

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Perspective one that wasn't just
rooted in tragedy but also an

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inspiration and that she was
herself no matter the

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consequences.
She was that brave and that True

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to herself.
And I completely commend her for

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that and obviously she made a
mark on my life even though we

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never met each other and I
carried that with me into high

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school when I started making so
many more connections through

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leadership, through Sports,
through clubs, through my

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classes.
I was making friends that guilt

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that I was touching on earlier
about having relationships and

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feeling like there wasn't a
solid foundation of Truth within

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them.
I felt more inclined to share my

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truth as Transgender woman with
people because I get was just

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getting to me.
It was nearly pushing me towards

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that edge of No, Return of not
seeing the point of life, if I

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wasn't actually going to live
it, I knew I had to tell my

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parents because I felt like I
owed that to them after all that

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they had done for me and for the
love that I have for them.

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So on May 31st 2014, I had
written this long letter down.

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Planning on handing it to my
parents because it was just,

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it's too hard for me to, like,
vocalize what?

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I had experienced.
What my truth was.

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I had written down this letter,
I planned to give it to them

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that night while they were
asleep and just slip it under

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their door.
But when the moment came, I

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looked at my letter and I just
crumpled it up into this ball

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and I was like, I'm just going
to keep it simple.

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So I took a Post-It note
instead.

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And wrote down, I'm transgender,
I'm sorry.

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I didn't tell you sooner love
Logan.

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And after a bit of back and
forth in the middle of the

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night, I slipped it under their
door.

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I went back into my room and I
cried myself to sleep.

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It was the longest night and the
shortest night of my life

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because I had woken up the next
morning, and it felt like time,

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just did not exist.
I woke up both, my parents were

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sitting beside my bed.
Just For me to wake up and I

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turn to them and they were just
so gentle with how they were

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speaking to me and they were
like, Logan, we want you to know

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that we love you.
And whenever you're ready to

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talk, we'll be in the living
room and then they left.

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And then I had a moment of like,
oh my gosh, this is real.

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This is happening right now
after all this time.

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And so I stepped into the living
room and my parents were just

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waiting for me on the couch.
They were just smiling.

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Eiling.
And we had the most freeing

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conversation I've ever had.
In that, they reassured me that

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they loved me, they will always
love me and that this was just

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going to be a learning
experience for them and that

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they knew that I was their child
and that I will always be their

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child and that they're going to
do their absolute best to

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support me.
However, they could that

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obviously maybe bawl my eyes out
from that moment.

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We take that journey together of
learning because, you know, I

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had done.
This learning on my own.

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And so I knew part of this
coming out process, for me

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personally, was to also in a
sense, hold their hand when it

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came to this learning process.
After all, that time of them

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holding my hand and guiding me
through life.

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I was like, okay I guess this is
my turn to guide them, through

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learning more about me and the
strengthening our relationship

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with each other, as parent and
child, they admitted, they

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didn't really know anything
about being transgender or about

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the transgender community.
And so they really took the

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initiative to watch These TV
shows documentaries, look up,

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websites organizations, read
books, and read articles.

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They did anything and everything
they could get their hands on.

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They really did that work to
find out who I was and how to

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best support me throughout this
entire transition period.

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They were just the best parents.
You could hope to have when

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coming out in 2014 as
transgender that was at the end

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of my freshman year of high
school.

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When I told them on, May 31st
2014.

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During pride month that year, we
started to go to doctors

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appointments because I knew
medically.

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Transitioning was a process that
I personally wanted to go to and

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something that we had access to.
I began taking hormone blockers,

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to stop the majority of the
testosterone that was coursing

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through my body at the time.
Over the summer, we continue to

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go to doctors appointments.
I also had met up with the rest

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of my family, my external
family.

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So after also telling my sister
who is Extremely supportive.

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I told the rest of my family.
My grandparents my aunt's.

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My uncle's my cousins.
Everybody that was also pretty

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difficult process.
My mom's had was very

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supportive.
My dad's side was a bit of a

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mixed bag due to religious
reasons.

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I knew that this was going to
take some time, I knew that

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throughout my life, I had grown
that patients within me to

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understand that too, many of my
family members, this is a new

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thing and I'm not going to
Expect them to just completely

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embrace it though.
I had hoped for that.

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So I kind of took on that
responsibility of educating them

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and giving them resources and
hoping that they would do their

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part to take advantage of those
resources and to learn on their

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own and to learn with me.
But after I had told my family

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over the summer, in between my
freshman and sophomore year of

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high school as a sophomore year
was approaching, I had told

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School administrators like the
principal vice principal the

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Poletik director and my coaches.
Because at the time I was in

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cross-country, the principal and
vice-principal.

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They were a bit on the fence
about what to do.

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As far as what facilities, I
could use with the bathrooms and

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the locker rooms.
They weren't really sure what

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the rules were.
But after a little encouragement

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from me and my parents, I'm
showing them that.

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Yes, I am allowed to use the
girls restroom and the girls

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locker room.
We got the green light and after

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having a conversation, Be
athletic director and her

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looking up whether or not I
could compete on the girls team

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we found out that I could
because California had made it

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law that year in 2014 that I as
a trans, girl was allowed to

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participate in sports on girls
teams.

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And so when school began, I
basically came out to everybody

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online.
I typed on Facebook, the longest

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post I could possibly post
explaining who I am and what my

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truth is.
As a transgender woman.

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And I was just flooded with very
supportive comments, and I was

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just so happy and cried tears of
joy.

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Again, I had explained to
everybody.

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I was going to show up to school
on Monday, September 8th, 2014

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and more.
Feminine clothing using she/her

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pronouns with the same name,
Logan, Alco Siva.

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Just so I was clear for
everybody, this is what's gonna

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happen.
And so I showed up on Monday,

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So I literally stood up in front
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that day.
And was like, hey, we going, if

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you didn't see my post, this is
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These are my pronouns and this
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respect that.
That's all I'm going to ask.

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For the most part, many people
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but I did have a few negative
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and throughout my time in high
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but it did show me a few things
about perseverance and the power

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of knowledge, right?
I just want to throw as much.

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Love your parents way that I
possibly can, because they have

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been able to demonstrate
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beautifully.
I'm like, literally, I need to

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grab some tissue right now
because it's just overwhelming,

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how even for those who don't go
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or an Their parents are met with
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negativity, and a lot of push
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career choice, or what college
to go to or things like that.

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But let alone, the fact that
your parents, the first thing

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that they would say to you, is,
we love you.

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And that's truly what this is
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It is all about love.
If we act from a place of love,

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as parents, I being a parent
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is not about controlling your
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birth to them and setting them
free and letting them make their

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own choices and loving them no
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It's wonderful.
I feel so happy for you that you

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did have number one, the support
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The majority of support from
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as your community.
It is a very big learning

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process for a lot of people.
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willing to take those steps, to
educate themselves, to be as

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kind and considerate.
Literate as possible for what

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you are going through in the way
that you are transitioning and

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figuring it out yourself to high
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Their freshman year, oh my
goodness, I can't even, I can't

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even look at you, you're just
like flooring me right now and

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you know thank goodness also
with the state of California

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being as Progressive as it is
because you know a lot of other

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states don't have these kinds of
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kind to the lgbtq community, you
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They say timing is everything.
Perhaps there were some

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circumstances like that, that
we're in your favor but all for

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a reason, all for the fact that
you were meant to be who you

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are.
And there's no question in my

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mind.
As to that effect, November 5th,

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2015, you officially changed her
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Verity Faith.
Elko seba and your gender was

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officially changed to females.
Girlfriend.

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True faith is officially your
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Yes, I gotta be true and you
gotta have faith that it's all

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going to work out and then so
tell me right after that because

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you talked about the hormone
replacement therapy and then you

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started going through further
surgeries to medically

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transition.
Can you tell me about that

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Journey?
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So as I mentioned before I
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pretty much immediately after I
came out to my parents and then

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a few months later near the
start of school was when I

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started hormone, Replacements
with the estrogen, I started to

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finally see my body change in a
direction that I wanted it to

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change and that felt so freeing
because before then it was so

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difficult to do daily tasks,
like dressing myself, going to

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the bathroom.
Looking in the mirror, those

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things were all personal
challenges because it made me.

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Come to terms with what my body
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And I didn't feel any kind of
euphoria in that until I started

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to medically transition because
that was a personal decision

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that I was able to access with
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And finally, having my body
change in a direction that it

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was after a year of doing that.
That's typically when someone

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who is trans has eligible for
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But because I was still a minor.
I wasn't eligible.

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I knew I I wanted the surgery, I
knew I needed the surgery and my

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parents were on my side, they
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So we kept petitioning, we had
Kaiser Permanente as our

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healthcare provider.
And so, we kept petitioning over

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and over again.
And the answer was most often.

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No, because you are a minor that
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We just kept hearing that up and
trying to push forward until

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finally.
I was able to get a consultation

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with a lot of Health Care
Professionals, like surgeons,

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Nurses, social workers
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I had like an hour meeting with
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like a good six hours of me,
just being interviewed at 16

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years old, by all of these
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trying to explain.
Yes, I am mature enough to

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understand the consequences of
this surgery and I know that

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this is a necessity for me
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And that's why I am going after
it after this meeting that we

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had with.
They finally understood my point

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of view and understood that I
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And so, I was approved as Kaiser
permanente's first minor to have

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gender affirmation surgery.
Wow, is there a road map that

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you share with others who may be
minors and going through the

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same process with their own
healthcare providers?

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In terms of language that you
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you had done as far as steps to
make sure that you were approved

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because I'm sure that there are
plenty of other individuals that

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may still be getting.
Denied.

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Is that something that you've
considered or that you do for

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me?
I knew that actions spoke louder

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than words and so I try to
incorporate that into how I was

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living my life as a transgender
woman.

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It was still pretty dated back
then on who should have the

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surgery especially as a minor
because the point of view was

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minor should not have the
surgery and I knew that I

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understood that and I knew I
personally had to be picture

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perfect.
In order for them to approve it,

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this wasn't the only reason, but
part of the reason why I became

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so active with all of my
extracurricular activities in

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school and with community
outreach, was because I knew it

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kind of had to be on that resume
for that eventual meeting.

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So I very much embraced my
identity as well as a

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transgender woman.
I no longer wanted to be in that

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prison of feeling insecure or
feeling powerless in who I am.

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That's also why I became so
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it was needed.
The visibility was very much

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needed for the trans Community
for me to participate in

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leadership, and sports and
clubs, and to Excel and my

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academics and to be a part of
volunteering and Community

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activism.
So I think all of those

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activities that I was a part of
benefited that meeting that I

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had with the healthcare
professionals and showing them

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that yes, I'm out and proud as a
transgender The woman and I have

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Incorporated my identity and too
many aspects of my life.

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This isn't a face, this is who I
am and I need the surgery

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because it will help me mentally
and physically feel euphoric and

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who I am.
And I think that's what helped

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move forward in that surgical
process, though.

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Personally, I wish all of that
wasn't necessary.

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I wish in the Health Care
community that I could, just at

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that time.
To my health care providers and

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say, this is who I am.
This is the healthcare that I

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need.
Can you please help me access

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that?
And I would hope that their

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response would be.
Yes, of course, we are

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Healthcare professionals.
Our job is to care for you and

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we're here to help.
Unfortunately, it wasn't like

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that at a time, though.
I know things have changed,

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things are changing.
And I know one day we will get

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to that point where we will be
cared for in our house.

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'The care system, no matter who
we are amazing.

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So then I know that you went on
to help educate your school

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about the transgender
experience.

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Because even though you were
mostly supported during your

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transition, you were still as
you mentioned met with some

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conflict.
And of course you know, so many

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others are also facing.
A lot of social bias.

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Can you share?
The cliff note version of your

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transgender presentation with
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Yes, of course.
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So the backstory of the
presentation That from the

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negative experiences that I had
at school and out of school,

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having books knocked out of my
hands being pushed against the

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lockers being harassed and
bathrooms and locker rooms.

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The negative experiences.
I had in sports and just see

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microaggressions.
I experience wherever I was that

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showed me that a lot of people
didn't understand the

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transgender community.
And even the people who did

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support me, they admitted that
they didn't quite understand

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that they didn't know much.
And so, I knew something was

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needed.
So I figured, hey, I do these

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presentations for class
assignments.

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Might as well extend that to
something that can bring Beauty

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into my community.
So I organized with a few

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teachers to find a space to do
it and organizing with the few

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teachers and them agreeing to
bring their classes to this

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again, I created a slideshow
presentation that laid out some

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basic terminology, like
transgender Are cisgender.

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What gender is what sexuality is
and some common experiences of

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the trans Community about the
issues that we face and how we

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can overcome them with allyship,
just overall giving students and

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staff terminology experiences
and resources on how to better

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help the trans community and
know, about the trans Community.

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That's what the presentation was
about.

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The first one occurred in 2015,
still my sophomore year.

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And luckily, we had Great
turnout, and great reactions to

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it.
A lot of people became more

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supportive of the trans
community and wanted to learn

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more and did their own research.
And a lot of people felt more

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comfortable being themselves,
whether they were trans or queer

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gay or lesbian or bisexual
pansexual asexual, no matter

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what label or No Label, they
felt more comfortable expressing

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themselves and being who they
are.

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And from that me and a few of my
friends, saw an uni.

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To create a queer Student Union
on campus.

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And so we created that club to
provide a safe, and brave space

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for students to express
themselves and to learn about

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the community and become part of
the community.

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Now, was the club open to those
in the community as well as

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allies?
Yes, of course, of course,

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because I had plenty of friends
who, you know, identified as

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this straight, but they wanted
to do their part as well.

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And so this club that We had
created was very much open to

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all who wanted to offer their
support, and wanted to be a part

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of the community.
Whether as a member of War as an

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ally, amazing, that is so
fantastic.

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I had read a statistic that a
lot of lgbtq students find

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themselves victims of exclusion
and harassment, especially

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transgender, and gender
non-conforming youth.

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I think that the statistic was
75% of them feel unsafe at

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school, and even if they do
persevere the bull, They faced

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as hostility from teachers and
faculty members.

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I think that about 60% of trans
students report being denied

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access to restrooms that are
consistent with their gender

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identity.
So I can imagine that this kind

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of education, not only for your
peer group, but for faculty

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members, as well.
Hopefully is going to make an

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impact and reduce those numbers.
Yeah, we definitely saw that

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shift within our own local
community because of the Station

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and the club really doing that
groundwork, bringing the

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visibility of the T in LGBT and
it kind of opened a lot of minds

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and a lot of parts to the trans
community and how people can

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just do their part or just be
respectful and, you know,

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provide the bare minimum.
So it was a great transformation

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to witness personally that's
lovely.

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And then you went on to college
but you also had some assistance

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from the point.
I believe it's called right.

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Yes.
Yes, the point mutation.

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Wait.
Foundation is the nation's

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largest lgbtq scholarship fund.
They provide mentorship and a

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lot of resources for students to
access and explore.

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It's just a great organization.
Overall, to help students make

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their way through college with
financial support and community

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support.
And that's what they provided me

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was not only the money to go to
college.

457
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College.
But also the best people for me

458
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to rely on to actually graduate
from college.

459
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How excellent I love that.
There are organizations like

460
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point.
And I will put a link to point

461
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foundation in the podcast notes.
Everybody can take a look at

462
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that organization as well.
Now, what do you think is a

463
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200
healthy way to inspire more
acceptance of marginalized

464
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,300
people?
Like the trans Community?

465
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Among those who are still on the
fence about it.

466
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,200
I think it's simply And to
remember that we are just as

467
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,200
human as you.
We are funny.

468
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,600
We are weird.
We are unique and Universal just

469
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,200
like anyone else to just simply
respect us, respect our names

470
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,300
are pronouns.
Just who we are.

471
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,900
You don't have to know every
statistic or every detail or

472
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:35,200
historical moment about the
trans community.

473
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:40,300
So I encourage you to learn but
to just treat us as any other

474
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:47,000
human being With respect just,
you know, try and do your part

475
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,100
when it comes to learning about
the community and helping the

476
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:53,400
community really understand
intersectionality as well.

477
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,100
You know, we're not just a
one-dimensional monolithic group

478
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,000
of people.
There are going to be

479
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,100
connections between sis people
and trans people through other

480
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,600
communities, all of humankind is
tied together somehow.

481
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600
So I think it's just important
that we treat each other with

482
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,200
that kindness.
Absolutely.

483
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:19,600
The absolutely now Logan you are
now a model talk about talk

484
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000
about getting to a place where
you are met with much more

485
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800
acceptance that I don't know if
you've ever dreamt of or could

486
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,700
have imagined possible.
But what was it like to all of a

487
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,900
sudden step into that role?
It was a wild ride.

488
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,700
I was going to college and I was
actually scouted while I was

489
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,200
going to San Francisco State
University by Cass.

490
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:46,200
Partner based in La, they just
invited me to go to this Hue and

491
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,400
I was like, okay yeah, why not
and they said it turned out well

492
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,000
and so they helped me get signed
with me.

493
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,500
Speak models based in New York,
who later helped me get signed

494
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:59,500
to Natural models based in Los
Angeles, and body London based

495
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,100
in London.
And having all of these

496
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,500
opportunities, I was stepping
into them understanding that.

497
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:09,300
I was also making an impact for
the trans Community when it came

498
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,200
to visibility and
representation.

499
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:14,800
And I carried that with me in
every shoot that I did.

500
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,100
And the funny thing was how this
seemed impossible to me growing

501
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:26,200
up because every time I looked
in the mirror as a child, as a

502
00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:35,300
teenager, I hated hated how I
how I looked, and who I was and

503
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:40,100
I felt so imprisoned by society
that it was hard for me to

504
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,100
imagine a future.
Teacher for myself where I was

505
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:47,400
happy and that I could be me.
I just touched my heart to know

506
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
that.
Not only did I have this job

507
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,400
that I could dream of, but to
have this job, that I was making

508
00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,900
a positive impact on the world
and finally, who I am finally,

509
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,700
someone who is happy with their
life.

510
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,400
The overall dream was achieved
was very special and I love

511
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,900
that.
You mentioned a beautifully that

512
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,400
you make the point.
It's not Just about being a

513
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,200
pretty face in a female body,
you are really representing a

514
00:30:16,208 --> 00:30:19,500
whole entire community and you
bring that with you and make

515
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:23,600
sure that you're advocating for
the trans community and doing

516
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,100
interviews.
Just like this to make sure that

517
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,900
the story gets hurt and that
Express so that more and more

518
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:32,300
people are met with the
acceptance that they deserve

519
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:34,900
when they want to be their true
authentic selves.

520
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,200
Yes.
And to me, it just shows the

521
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:43,200
power of being true to you and
Certainly I know that there was

522
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200
that period of time where you
had to feel ready.

523
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,400
There has to be this time where
you feel, okay.

524
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200
It might not be the perfect way
to come out, but even though I'm

525
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,900
frightened out of my wits to do
this, I'm going to do this

526
00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:00,300
because if I don't want to see
alternative, what would you say

527
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,400
to those that are going through
the same Journey?

528
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,100
That might not feel ready yet?
I would say it's okay.

529
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,000
If you don't feel ready,
everyone's journey is their own

530
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,100
this Your life.
So do what you want to do, do

531
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:18,000
what you need to do, there's no
rush, there's no pressure.

532
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:24,000
Just find ways that you can care
for yourself and be who you are

533
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,500
in your own way.
So there's no specific way to be

534
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,500
you.
That is all up to you.

535
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,100
And if you do feel like sharing
your truth with other people, is

536
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,600
part of your journey.
I encourage you to do that.

537
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,100
However, if ever whenever you
want to really Prioritize your

538
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:48,500
safety and prioritize preserving
that self love that you have for

539
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:49,700
yourself.
Yeah.

540
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,000
Okay.
So now onto some lighter stuff.

541
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,400
What do you love to do in your
spare time?

542
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,300
Tell us about all your guilty
pleasures.

543
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,100
Oh gosh.
I love to do a lot of things

544
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,600
growing up in California.
I loved going to the Redwoods

545
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000
and to the beach.
Those are always the best days

546
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,500
going out with friends and
family to enjoy the sun.

547
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:14,000
I also love To go to concerts
and just enjoy music.

548
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,900
Something else that I love to do
is genealogy where I research

549
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:20,700
family trees and that's actually
something I've been doing since

550
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:25,200
I was 10 years old.
So a pretty long time now, but I

551
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,300
dislike research, my family tree
and my friends, family trees,

552
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400
and it's a bit meticulous
sometimes, but it's really fun.

553
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,400
Now, your background is Hawaiian
and Filipino.

554
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,100
Is that correct?
Yeah, so from my father's side,

555
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,800
I am a lion and Filipino and
from my mother's side, I am

556
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Irish English and German.
Oh my goodness.

557
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,300
What a wonderful where those
came from?

558
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Yeah, I got the tan skin in the
freckles, going on.

559
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,800
So yeah, very much a blended
between my parents.

560
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:57,900
Well, look in.
It was an absolute pleasure to

561
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,700
speak to you today.
Logan's links are in the caption

562
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:03,400
below, so please be sure to
check her out everywhere.

563
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,900
She is on social media.
I hope you have an amazing pride

564
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,000
month.
Thank you so much everyone for

565
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,300
listening and again, Love
yourself, love other people and

566
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,900
happy pride month.
Love Is Love, Is Love.

567
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:17,600
Love Is Love Is Love.