Episode 19: Clarissa Burt - How To Enrich Your Self Esteem

0:07 Hello, beautiful humans. Welcome to role models. Juicy conversations with beautiful humans. I'm Jennifer Norman founder of the human Beauty movement and your host. Today, we're going to talk about self-esteem to kick things off. I'm delighted to introduce you to my special guest from The Royal order of Cappadocia. This is Dame, Clarissa Burt. Hello. Well, it's love. Yes, I've just recently been knighted, which is very sweet of you to mention and that was about a month ago up in Las Vegas at the Venetian and it was a it was a real honor to be knighted and become a part of such an important organization that does help women and children and Men slay, all over the world.

0:48 So more importantly is the mission than the title for sure. For sure. Now, Clarissa, I have to start off by saying that you are the constant multi-hyphenate human being you are Are the founder and the CEO of in the Limelight media, you're a media personality, producer director writer author, public speaker, former supermodel winner of the celebrity survivors show is that right after get we squeeze that in there. Chicka wow wow. What a repertoire you have and so I would love to just Dive Right In and talk to you about self-esteem. Why did this become such an important topic for your like?

1:28 Well, you know, as even as a young girl, I was able to start seeing a trend that you will and it kind of bothered me that I'm Christine on my perception of so many people. Especially women was so completely different than how they were. You know, perceiving a living on sell their lives and they started kind of my mom. And so, Mom was, I don't take my picture. I come off horribly and pictures and she always thought she had to lose weight. She didn't, she was a gorgeous woman and my grandmother again. Beautiful woman. I need to lose weight and usually, you don't need to lose weight. She was perfect the way. She, what? Believe me when I tell you not a now, Did she need to lose takes to diet pills, one day she chokes on them. Perforates her esophagus wind up in the hospital for six weeks and I'm at work that was kind of silly you know that was kind of silly and you know and they weren't as I was growing up, especially during you know, my modeling years, you know, I'm really I mean I am in the one percent of the women of the top models and supermodels around the world and the 80s and some of the most beautiful creatures you'd ever want to see. And I, you know, it was evident that some of them had issues whether it be Toxic relationships or drug and alcohol abuse or maybe, you know, a direct Sia binging. We didn't know about a lot about it back then, but enough to know that, you know, they were having some difficulties and that may be a little bit, you know, more some happy healthy self-esteem. Might have helped that, certainly we all have backgrounds and, you know, we never really knew back then we didn't talk about it that much, especially in the 80s. Like, what was your background, what kind of household did you have any never knew if a girl had been sexually abused. So, you know, trafficking wasn't

2:58 even a word yet. No, I'm so these are the kinds of gals that again. Some of them that I took a look at and wanted to know cuz like, wow she looks like, she's got everything going for her. Why is she doing X Y & Z? So a common denominator became self esteem or the lack thereof and I just bothered me. So I just wanted to kind of shake everybody and go can't you see how amazing you are? And you know, and so I wanted to become cheerleader if you will. I wanted to be the raw session for women that are not seeing themselves. Not Not perceiving themselves that are not living their fullest potential. And that's where the book really. That's where it starts. Hmm. Now you did just mention your book which I would love for you to share a little bit about because this is the best-selling book called The self esteem regime.

3:45 So can you tell us a little bit of the highlights of what's inside the book and what people can expect that I can? So first of all, when I got the book and you can see there's three different colors of blue there so that these are they were it was orange pink and yellow. So, obviously it was really for a feminine died and I sent it back to them and I said, would you mind just doing it three different iterations of blue because I also wanted to include men. Let's not forget that, it's not just women that how or girls that have these issues. Certainly men are right there with us. They are Partners along the way. This thing we call life and they have as many issues as we do and they should be addressed. So I wanted to catch the May lie with this book as well.

4:26 And it is also, it was co-written by Gary Krebs, so You know, we kind of partnered up, great, great. By the way, great literary agent, you know, with that having been said the book starts with release. So the idea of, you know, the things we know, we have to let go of the things we have to unlearn, what have we learned in the naval trod. What exactly did serve us so what didn't serve us and do we have the courage to move forward? Because as we do, and we start stepping in our own truth, we're going to inevitably hurt some feelings. Some people are going to be offended. Some people are going to get their nose out of joint. Some They're want to know why, you know, these are the kind I often say just love them where they're at. Don't make an issue of it.

5:06 Don't try to, you know, try to get too deep into explanations belly, explain yourself. But love everyone were there at the next step. Obviously is Faith. You've got your family fate. What? If you are a believer in any faith, what is in the faith that worked for you? What was in your truth? And was there anything that they were teaching you? That maybe just didn't resonate so well, and I'm not saying I go against the good books. I'm just saying, what resonated, what serves, what can you take on and what can you embellish upon friends? You know, your friends as well? You're certainly, there's a there's a type of indoctrination if you will in your friendship site circles and certainly with your educated process, so your colleges universities, what does it mean? You learn their, what is it?

5:51 You know, again with friends and your peer groups. What is it that worked? And what didn't? This is where you start forming, and you start your path and you said you're leaving home as you're leaving, colleges, and you're going out into the world, on your own, on your own. But so, you know, I really wanted the book to be able to speak to all different ages, certainly men and women and to be able to address the problems that self-esteem bring and what is it? We can do to better ourselves along the way. What kind of work do we have to do? Yeah. I love that and I am so curious. Like, when somebody is feeling low self-esteem, it can manifest in certain ways and some people that it can climb up and be very shy and fearful and just like nervous or feel ashamed of themselves and not present themselves. But and then on the other flip side, as you mentioned, I mean supermodels, a lot of them have low sales. Even it's like how in the world is it? Like it doesn't it seem to make sense on the surface but I can imagine that a lot of the people that you were with had these issues.

6:56 And they just I've never felt good enough and it's because of the messages that they do, you need to lose five pounds or you've got a zit or, you know, always pointing out the negative rather than enhancing on the positive. And so, there are certainly a lot of people who seem like they're in these positions of power or seem that like, they have it all and they are crippled inside like really paralyzed inside and it's just such a fascinating phenomenon and it happens for so many reasons, it is, it happens to so many reasons that it is fascinating and obviously, everybody's path is different. You know, as individual as we all are but we know we want to make sure that you want to. First things we do when we catch ourselves is really catch. First of all self-esteem 101. Never compare yourself to anyone else and I say this all the way to be right now.

7:40 Whatever. Yeah. But no. But wait, you probably do that and you probably do it more frequently than you admit and certainly social and social media hasn't helped us at all. And, you know, I offer that, you know, you are so lucky because you get to be You, you know, you get to BU, you get to create the life that you might refer get Susie Q and, you know, and Johnny O'Toole. It doesn't matter what you know what, then be them. Let them have their own paths, you do, you know you do? What is important to you, what is your truth. And, you know, I will often say this and that is that no matter what, divine Universe Source, whatever you want to call, it doesn't matter whatever you decide works for you knew exactly what they were doing and they created shoe. You're in no position to be second-guessing. Your creator.

8:28 No matter who you think that is, you aren't really you're not in that position because they are the all knowing they know so much more than we will ever know. And so at that point I would say sit back, relax, take it all in, be the best person. You can possibly be at for yourself and for others. And if you can do that, I think you've got self-esteem you know, in the bag. Yeah those are great for steps. Are there other steps that you have in your regimen of helping to build people's self-esteem up? Yeah. One of the first things that built, you know, we release we let go of What wood is, you know, we've been taught all of that last bit was trapped that I really love a lot and I bring in a personal note to that is reciprocity. So reciprocal is the last chapter. It is also, you know, a law, it's one of the universal laws of reciprocity and, you know, I'm one of those kind of people like a lot of us women. Especially we do do and go go go and we're always taking care of and I, everybody else comes first and all the rest of that. Something one day, I remember saying dang it, if I could just get somebody to help me every once in a while, that would be something along those lines.

9:27 I'm probably being a real jerk saying but I said it anyway and and the person in the room with me sick, you know, clear? Sup it's really hard to get to you? People would like to, they want to but, you know, from the outside for us, it looks like have it all, do it all, you know, it all you'll be at all, like, you are so capable and so it and I stopped and I thought about that for a second and I thought about how many times now, if someone gives me a compliment certainly, I know how to accept that way. You know, he's just You're going Glory, but many other times if there was somebody that wanted to do something, maybe I didn't catch to that in a moment or I didn't see it as such. So take some deep breaths and realize that people around you deserve to give to you and you deserve to receive from them and vice versa. Mmm.

10:15 That's so he, what do you think that the ultimate goal is in terms of? What do you feel when you feel like you've got like, oh I'm nailing self-esteem does anybody nail it? But like what Like knowing like hey I'm a pretty healthy self-esteem. Yeah. Well yeah, absolutely. I mean, you work on your self-esteem, you build your self-esteem. You want to hold onto. Happy healthy self-esteem and you want to continue that because I say that because there's not a self-esteem at the test to take, you know, you take it. You get 100 on your good for life, doesn't work that way. I wish it did, but it doesn't so life being life is going to do what life does and that is triggered you somewhere along the line. Something's going to go awry, it's going to go wrong, it's going to go sideways, it's going to be a relationship. It's going to be a car.

10:57 Our accident, you know, whatever. Whatever eat. He's I mean bumper accident. Why don't wish, you know, obviously, I think that on anyone but that's life, isn't it? You never know what kind of day you're going to have, when you wake up in the morning. So as the storms are brewing in the tornado is coming through. And, you know, all of these things are happening. When I make sure that you're stressed and you have the tools and the resources that keep you standing strong in your stead. And that means to be well rooted so that when the storm comes through, Maybe a, we lose a leaf or two. You could even lose a branch, but you will not be uprooted and transporting the way with the storm, right? You'll have those tools in the shed and again, all per site. My book is a great book, but personal growth section and Barnes & Noble.

11:45 I have lived in the personal growth and self-help section my entire life. I never read a biography of fiction, a science picture, I never anything else but self-esteem or self-help. For self-awareness and self-confidence, kind of gross. And so this is really a great compilation of those of my life because I was like experiences. And also we have different case studies or 12 different case, studies of different women. In here, we've got the Clarion call, Clarissa's corner, there are affirmations, there's homework, there's review. There's all kinds of things that when you read this book, now, Jennifer, you're going to get something out of it the first time, right? You definitely going to get a lot out of it.

12:25 Yeah. Did you do the work? And if you do the work and I add, you will do the work. It's going to be uncomfortable and you need courage. You must bring courage to the table, to be able to do the work. And I'm not trying to scare anyone off. I'm trying to bring you in and say, think of how exciting this work. I want to call to Playbook. Let's call The Playbook, it's a workbook Playbook. But the idea that you're going to be able to be such a bigger better Bolder and brighter person on the other side of this book is so exciting. To me, I've had People save me Christians. Focus changed my life, you know? And that's extraordinary to me that I just couldn't have asked for anything greater and then you'll read the book again and six seven months, and you'll get something completely different out of it because you weren't ready for that message today, you're going to be writing the universe. No Source knows, Divine knows.

13:15 God knows, Buddha knows, whatever you decide works for you. They know when you're ready for the message, but you have to start putting the work in to get the process started. Exactly. I liken it to just like thinking of it as fun thinking of it as something new, something new to learn and practice. It's not that you can ever really get it wrong. It's just like every single day, you learn you adopt and assimilate something. You try it on like a new pair of shoes and see how it fits. And really kind of step into small bits of improvement every single day, so that you are a better person tomorrow than you were yesterday. All that life really is. It's really, you know, you know, Joker, it's the smallest things. Yeah, sometimes it's from been reminding yourself to drink, those extra, two glasses of water. You know?

14:04 You're supposed to be doing for a day because that's what, you know, you dye it says you're supposed to be the little things that you're taking care of your health because the four pillars are look good. Feel good be going greater good. So looking good. We know when we look good, you know what that means is subjective? And when we're looking good, we have a little extra lilt in our step, you know, we have front our day differently, we're able to, you know, get on stage with more confidence. That's a brings confidence. I look good. Feel good is Diet exercise and nutrition and so you know that it all works as one, we've got to keep that body you know, Tip-Top shape, especially entrepreneurs and solopreneurs because if you go down it all goes down. If you drop it all tumbles down on top of you and there is a Forbes article that came out and says that entrepreneurs are entrepreneurs are more apt to have depression then those that work in companies who are corporate.

14:55 So you must Must must be taken care of your head and your body look. Good feel good, bebu it is, you know, you are finances, your relationships, your what else, what you're reading, what you're listening to the be good part of. Where is it? That you are really being good or you're remembering silly face somebody's birthday, you know, to bring a gift along for whatever, you know, being really good being present wherever you are, whatever you're doing. And then greater good is nothing more than paying it forward. You know, giving That tithing volunteering. There's nothing that will make you feel better, it's like self-esteem, you know, speed, you know, like right away is when you are doing something good for somebody else, we all know that.

15:39 So the idea that you're doing something good for somebody else, makes you feel pretty darn good because you saw how good it made them feel exactly. Exactly. I know at the very beginning you were saying, like rule number one don't compare, which is an extremely extremely difficult thing to do, especially when you do have other media, which Which is intended to be absorbed, and to be infiltrative, how much of this do you think, is the responsibility of society or Media or advertisers, or what-have-you versus individuals? If not going to change? I don't think that's going to change. I think what will change and should change is how you receiving it. It's all perception, you know, like when we throw, what you, what you can handle.

16:20 And you only going to accept what, you know, you can handle you the rest of it. You need to let go of your not going to be Going to be people that are going to have more than us in less than this. It's kind of one of those you know realities of life and you know the wanting to be like somebody else. Just be you, you know, like really one of you even have mentors. That's wonderful. And certainly people that you emulate. I think that's fine. I love, you know, I would love to have been Oprah and have had her her calf say, you know, her impact on the world. I'm working on it in my own way and I think I'm doing just fine but I'm not on Oprah's Pat. She's got a completely different path and and you know I thought I multi Media platforms, just like she does, but it's different and it's okay.

17:01 And I'm still proud of the work that I do and how I, especially, you know, I helped many women, I've got a mastermind and I, you know, we've got a masterminds 12 sessions, and the book is 12 chapters, and we merged the two. So, whereas before, it was a business Mastermind, now is a business of personal Mastermind and there are very few masterminds that do that, where they'll take the time to say, you know, we've had a couple of million coming Jennifer and I'll say girls I need a little extra prayer this week because My son tried to commit suicide or one down came. And said, we just discovered that my husband has stage 4 prostate, cancer were, these are the kinds of things that normally at this is functions or business. Mastermind, you don't bring to the table, you don't bring that to the for.

17:42 Whereas, here in my Mastermind, we, you know, we rally around you, we call you afterwards. We make sure you're getting support during the, you know, the entire time and it's a different kind of vibe. It's a different kind of feeling and this is what I, you know, you had said before about Heartfelt and you know, living you know with a service kind of heart, it's not talk, it's do. And so yeah, that's what we love doing around here. Yeah, I love the idea of finding cues. It's like, if you are self aware enough, to be able to notice how you are feeling. So if you see somebody that, you know, perhaps the tenancy being took a. But if you see somebody and your initial reaction is jealousy or resentment, then you know that there's work to do. Your initial reaction is gosh, that is so inspiring. I love that.

18:31 You know, that's something that I want to see what I, you know, how much of that I can call my own and help me in my own progress towards, what I want to see and be and manifest in my own life. Then yeah, we're getting somewhere. Right? What's the vibration isn't it? It's very likely or jealousy is at a very low vibrational energy. So when you're doing something good for you and when you're starting to do, you know really good things for everyone else, for the community for those around you you start that he said, what do they say? What's this? Brother, you know, Rising tide raises All Ships or something along those lines. So you know, this is and the more you do that the more, you know, more benevolence you attract. So, you know, there is nothing that she's doing that, you can't do, you can do it differently, you can do it better, you know, you can either give up or you can give it all you got, right? There's only a few different ways you can go. But why not?

19:21 Why not try the different ways? Because don't want to be her. You haven't been in her shoes. You have Walked a mile in them and you don't know what the true story is. So you know if we can all just be happy for one another and really support one another really truly support one another. Here's another thing that I love to say and that is loyalty is when you have my back behind my back. So if you're at the water cooler and everybody's thrashing, Susie Q, are you going to become, you know, part of that, you know, the frenzy of the tribal frenzy and jump pile on that? Or are you going to say? You know what girls I know Susie Q and who you're describing is not how I know her, you know, and walk away and we'll that a margin it you from the crowd, okay?

20:05 But you know, there's something else that I coined and it's called I want to live high. That is I want to live in honor. I want to live in Integrity. I want to live in honesty and I want to live in a sari gratitude and I screwed that up. So, honesty, Integrity, gratitude and honor. There you go. You know, the acronym is high. And if you can live in Go honesty with yourself and with others, if you can live in Integrity, which means who are you? Where no one else is in the room. If you live in gratitude, and, I mean really gratitude, you know, I mean you have a crappy day, okay, you know, Grant bitch. Moan complain, got it. But, you know, what are the five top things? I've got a roof over my head, I got food in the pantry.

20:46 I've got people that love me, I've got my health and about, you know, great friends, I mean, boom. I mean, most people in the world, be happy with just those five. I could go on with another 20 things. That I'm grateful for and I think that we all need to stay Mindful and what that really helps the vibrational levels of stay high at a higher level and then it with honor, I want to be a woman. It is with honor all the time. And that means honoring myself an honoring you and, you know, we all miss the Mark, we are not perfect. If you can aspire to that, then there's 80 percent of of self-esteem game right there. And you also talked about the power of the benefit of support groups, and so surrounding yourself.

21:26 Self with people who are going to live in that high place with you and each other like just supporting lifting each other up on their Journeys is a very special thing. What we don't get to choose our family. Not that you know a lot of people have put on more families and that's a wonderful thing. Other people are not selective, you know, they don't have support systems that they can turn around to or go back to work, call up every day and don't have that. So you get to choose your own. Make your own, find your own. And then, you know, I think I've already talked about 12th chapter being reciprocity and that is given take. So, when you find that group, when you find that, you might only find people by than a lifetime. Because we, as you know, when you heard it before, some people come in for a reason, others, a season and other is a lifetime. Those are the people that you really want to nurture. Always everyone.

22:18 You want to nurture everyone all the time, but the ones that are your ride or dies, the ones that are the three o'clock in the morning, phone calls, you know. No questions asked. I mean, no questions. You jump in a car and you go, if somebody needs you, I don't mean you're helping very dead bodies, I'm making, you know, your there's a legitimate reason. The people that, you know, the people that, you know, you can count on and that they can count on, you are the people that you will be acquiring during your lifetime. Hmm. And that really gets to the point of unconditional friendship or unconditional love because there's a lot of people that you'll recognize it when they say, they'll be there for you. They're not necessarily there for you. They might not be the ones that you would consider in your support Circle, right? Yeah, I know, you know, again, you don't want to cut everybody out because you'd be one lonely world. If we don't, we're waiting for everybody around this to be so perfect.

23:07 But, you know, you want to get to a point where you are no longer triggered. Because you are again standing, so strong in your stead, with your tools and your resources, and your happy healthy self-esteem, that you can still interact with all of these people but you're going to learn how to love them, where they're at. Mmm. Knowing that they're on a different path knowing that your vibrational energy might be, you know, higher than theirs. Give them a moment, give them the time given that, you know, let them do their work and maybe, you know, tend to hand sometimes, you know, like maybe you can help pull them up. I know that I've been pulled up. So, you know, we're constantly again reciprocating giving and taking. Yeah, you talk about mirror therapy. Can you tell me a little bit about? Well, what your practice is and how you would advise other people to practice me.

23:56 Everything absolutely will mirror therapy is nothing that I invented. The first I'd heard about it was Marie Louise. Hays her Works came out with me or therapy and might have been done before. It could have been done, I think was even Neville Goddard, it started with me or therapy and Jack Canfield, has used it. Many different people have used mirror therapy and that is when you talk to you looks weird. It feels weird. It sounds weird. You'll get used to it, but bring tissues because you're going to be able to talk to yourself the way with love with ease with joy. Glory and telling yourself. And when you look at yourself and you say these things, it's going right into your soul and you cannot sidestep this. And when you're saying to yourself, I love you. You're phenomenal.

24:38 Your spectacular. You are so smart. You are so kind. You are so good. You are so giving. And then you say to yourself, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry for the time that I let you down. I'm sorry for the time that I didn't stand up for you. I'm sorry. For the time that I didn't offend you, I'm sorry for the hurt that I've caused you. You start to have these kinds of conversations with yourself. You know again it feels weird, it really does. But if you can stand there and say, I love you, kind of just love you. You are one spectacular. Human being people tell me that, I think that's really nice when they do and it just makes me feel warm all over and I try to do that as much as I can with others, but there's nothing wrong, in fact. Absolutely nothing wrong with you telling yourself, and that's What I invite everyone to do.

25:28 That's so fascinating because I think that a lot of people can't get over that hurdle of feeling like a narcissist, when they do something like that is our gorgeous isn't narcissism, and healthy. Self-esteem are two different things. Narcissism is the lack of self-esteem, first of all, and it's a false sense of self. Okay, happy healthy self-esteem is the complete opposite so it's okay to love yourself. You should be loving yourself. You should be loving yourself more than you love. Anybody else because Just like they say on the plane, put your oxygen mask on first and then think of everyone else and I think you should be madly in love with yourself. Here's another one that I love to leave everybody with Jennifer and that is, I am enough. I am enough, you are enough, we are enough, everybody's enough and when you look up the definition of enough it says only as much as is required.

26:21 Are you think about that for a second? You think about when you're talking to your subconscious, when you think about what you're telling your subconscious right now, you say I'm enough. Well, God, that kind of balls, a little flat, but when you say to yourself, I am so much more than enough. Oh, man, my so much more than enough. It has a different vibe. It's a different ring. It's a whole different. You know, level, it's such a huge weight. You just Elevate yourself to whole different level. When you say, I am so much. Much more than enough. Because enough is what's enough? It's not enough. Absolutely, I'd love to shift gears for a moment because certainly you've been able to have quite a lot of accomplishments, over the course of your career, and you've started your own company. And I think that a lot of people get a lot of inspiration from women who have found a certain level of success and have been able to find fulfillment and what they do, can you tell us about your journey that was on every major runway in the world? Every I mean you name the designer I was on there Right. And that was really an exciting time and I came home with about 250 magazine covers.

27:24 I had my own counter at Bloomingdales for a very poor about 10 years, because I was the face for or Lane Cosmetics, which was a French, you know, a company. And so, my modeling career was amazing. It was really really great, but again, it was, I didn't think I could, but I tried and I did and then, you know, I screwed it up. You know, I wasn't ready. Unsub took a step back gathered myself took a deep breath. Both tried it again and it really went well, the second time. Hmm. So you sometimes I guess the, you know, the message there and self-esteem is it's okay if it doesn't, you know, fail. He was another lovely acronym, that I absolutely love and that is fail is your first attempt in learning. So it's okay to fail Family.

28:10 Just means you're that much closer. Say do it all the time and don't, you know, make a habit of it, but if you can, you know, that failure is normal is going to happen and time. You do fail, you that much. Sir to the end goal which is Success. So, yeah, and then later on, you got into media. Yeah, I did. So I started, well, I was Mary Poppins in the kindergarten play and they, you know, I was told that I was vaccinated with a phonograph needle. So I guess I was to talk or way back when I knew when I was Mary Poppins and the kindergarten play and I sang supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and I got pictures of that too. And I got my first Applause. And I was hooked.

28:51 Oh my God, it was hoped. I knew that I was going to be on stage in some way shape, or form for the rest of my life, where there was a stage in a microphone, that's why I wanted to be. And, you know, it took a little bit longer, didn't say, I didn't really start start until about 30 31 on Italian television. Hmm. But ever since then, you know, I lived in Italy for 30 years. So I did I worked on television there but it was. So it's been a microphone in some way shape or form, you know. So and I'm also with that. So the communicative process, you know, for real Communications. And then being really passionate about the position and condition of women around the world. And then, you know, so you know, Ergo the book self-esteem wanting to see women, you know, believe in themselves up their game. You know, pick themselves up dust themselves off, never look back and, you know, if it hurts, it isn't love. I'll throw that in there too.

29:41 And that's because I also collaborate with domestic shelters dot-org. So women that are in abusive situations needs as I said, get up, move on and ever, look back. And there's plenty of help out here for you. And I know it's hard and I know it's scary and there's all kinds of help out here. If you look for it, you want to get out of that situation, it's there. I think that that's so fascinating to, and it ties in so perfectly to self-esteem. Because I think that there's a lot of relationships, which are built upon codependency, and then they've been toxicity. Yeah. And then you lose yourself because you feel that you can't be yourself without that other person, but you're not yourself with that person. It's a perfectly. Well, that's beautifully said perfectly said you're not yourself with that person. That is so, right, it's so true.

30:26 Good on you. I'm gonna have to use that. I like that but it's pretty. Yeah. And absolutely right. This is my mission. This is my movement and that is to make sure women everywhere. And there are women all over the world doing this kind of work and I don't think there are enough of us. And on there should be many more of us and that is to really, really be lighting each other's candle and adjusting each other's crowns. You know, if it gets a little crooked you know, you just you're there. Or just there for them. And that's what I want to do. And that's what I'm also creating with the women's Global events. So I'll make sure I'm, you know about that too and all your listeners, okay? I'm Clara separate. Your crown is shining brightly. My friend is and I thank you so much for the work that you're doing for the book that you wrote for coming on this podcast and all the things. All the things.

31:11 Thank you very much for being a beautiful human. Thank you. Thanks.