Episode 29: Becca Lee - How Revealing My Port-Wine Stain Changed My Life

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So today's episode is all about

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At how liberating it is to let
the real you shine through my

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guest today is the gorgeous.
Becca Lee who goes by Becca Lee

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Beauty on social media.
Becca has captured hearts with

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the power of her story, which
includes adoption her unique

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skin, her real girl personality,
and her Pro makeup Artistry

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skills.
When Becca decided to reveal her

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bare skin to the world, her
whole life changed and she's

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here to tell us all about it.
Welcome Becca.

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Wow, I'm so excited to be here.
I can't tell you how happy I am

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to have you on the show, partly?
Because we have something in

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common.
You were born in Korea.

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I was just exhausted at 8 months
old.

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I was adopted at 2 years old and
you also have three older

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siblings.
Who were adopted from Korea, and

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I actually have two other
brothers and sisters on the

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youngest of six.
But two were adopted from

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Vietnam so it's a whole adoption
reunions.

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I feel like yeah, I love that.
Yes, I would love to know what

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it was like for you growing up.
What your family was like?

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Yeah.
So I'm actually the youngest out

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of all my siblings as well.
So, I've got a sister, and two

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older brothers and we're all
adopted from Korea.

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I grew up in a very small town,
in northern Minnesota eyes.

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There's like eight thousand in
our town at the time that I was

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growing up there and growing up.
I definitely felt different and

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I think a big part of me looking
back now is I don't think I

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recognize I felt different.
The terms of Jeff's, my

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birthmark, but also different in
the terms of like I was an Asian

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girl in this very predominantly
white town.

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And so, I definitely stuck out
in other ways as well.

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And so for me, I think my
parents were very good though.

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Like we went every summer.
There was a Korean adoptee camp

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that we went to every summer so
we still got to learn about our

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culture and they made sure to
include that in our lives.

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Like we have Korean food for
special occasions and things

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like that.
So yeah it was definitely

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interesting growing up.
With that kind of difference to

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and just knowing that you look
different than your parents and

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how that can kind of be with
people growing up sometimes, you

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know, like people don't really
understand like my for me, my

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parents are my parents and I
just love and adore them so

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much.
And I had such an amazing family

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that adopted me and that I got
to grow up and be a part of

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that's so wonderful.
You know, and I was growing up

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my sister and my brother who
were from Vietnam were very

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close in age to me and my
brother and I are actually eight

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months to the day upon From each
other.

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So we were in the same grade and
people thought we brought men's.

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Okay, yeah, funny things like, I
can see the resemblance and I

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was like, no, you can't.
But okay just that, you know,

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monolithic Asian thing I
suppose.

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Yeah, I yeah I and, you know, in
my family we really didn't hold

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on to a lot of our culture.
It's nice that in your family,

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you had those moments where you
could get together and eat food.

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I think maybe once in a while,
we would go to I grew up on Long

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Island and in Queens every once
in In a while, we would go to

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these Korean fairs and have, you
know, kimchi and lots of good

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food.
And I think that, you know,

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something in me sparked whenever
I had kimchi, because I noticed

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that you love red.
I've got that's a bit here in

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my.
Yeah, and my friends now but

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yeah, it is interesting growing
up, especially in such a small

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town that you did being Asian
and kind of feeling like, well,

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maybe I am different in some way
but not really knowing it.

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Yeah, it's like early on you
just don't recognize it but

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something feels a myth and
you're not quite sure what it

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is.
Yeah for sure.

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Yeah.
So like your birth and adoption

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story is so special.
It's not the thing that you feel

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makes you most different.
You also have a birthmark.

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Do you want to tell us what the
skin type is that you have?

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Yeah, so I have port wine stain
and blue Nevis or Nevis of Oda.

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So the port wine stain is like
the red coloring that you see on

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my face which is actually a
vascular birthmark.

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So basically the blood vessels
in my skin have been malformed

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sometime during birth or not
exactly sure.

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What causes Has it.
They think it's kind of like a

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genetic mutation and so they're
just much closer to the surface

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and they stay dilated and so
that's what causes that render

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pigmentation.
And then the Nevis of OTA is the

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blue Marquis down here on my
neck and then it goes even into

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my eyes.
And so that's just kind of a

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like more of a just say
pigmentation discoloration I

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guess, okay?
So since it's a birthmark, you

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had it since you were a baby and
if yes in there.

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All your life.
Yes, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I know that.

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You know, when you were younger,
you mention about going to see

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the doctors and having some
treatments and things like that.

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Can you tell us about that whole
journey?

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Yeah, so I got treatments from
the time that basically, when my

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parents took me home, I think I
started treatment shortly

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thereafter and then I've got
them until I was about 12 years

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old.
My parents made, sure to try and

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make those experiences as
positive as I could be.

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For me, I think a lot of
misinformation is that it's just

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purely cosmetic.
There's a lot of like actual

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medical Opening on having laser
treatments for port wine stain

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especially over time because it
is a vascular birthmark it can

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grow and change and so it can
thicken and it can just cause

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other issues and things like
that too.

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So they like I said, they tried
to make it as positive as an

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experience, they could for a
child, you know, having to go

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into the doctor and going under
anesthesia and all that.

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And I had amazing nurses and
whatnot, and like, my dad would

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usually take me down.
And so, like, what I look back

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at those times, like, there are
things that I hated about it,

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but also, it was like a special
time for me, and my dad to buy.

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I'm the and like we always got
like a special meal afterwards

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and everything that's so as far
as treatments overall it was

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like a really great experience.
But I did have one experience

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when I was seven years old and I
had gotten a new doctor, they

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had a new machine and the
Machine was turned up too high

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and that guy ended up with Burns
all over my face and I still

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have some scarring from it.
So basically it blistered all

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over and as you can imagine that
was really hard for my parents.

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My mom to see and like you see
me go through so much pain.

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And like, I had to stay home
like extra days from school and

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whatnot.
Because I had these giant

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blisters all over my face, and I
think that was like, one of the

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most pivotal moments in my life
and realizing how different I

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was.
Because I did go obviously

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stayed out of school for a
little while after that.

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But I did eventually go back and
like I still had some of the

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like blisters and things and I
remember being in the bathroom

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with another little girl and
her, like, just staring at me.

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Like I was some sort of monster
or like just like that's how I

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felt.
Time and maybe that, you know,

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wasn't the case but like just
remember being stared at and

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just really feeling so out of
place and uncomfortable in my

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skin at that time.
And so it was that the last time

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that you did have treatments or
did you continue to have any

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after that?
No, we're continued until I was

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about 12 years old and then we
stopped treatments at that point

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because we weren't the doctors
won't really see any progression

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with my birthmark as far as you
know growths or thickening and

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things like that and like we
weren't seeing any Difference,

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as far as like, my birthmark was
lightning or anything like that.

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And at this point, I know it's
not something that would.

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I mean, I would probably never
get it removed anyways, fully,

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but it's also probably just not
like something realistic to have

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fully removed, but if such a
part of me now that I wouldn't

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want that.
Anyways?

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Yeah, yeah.
So then of course, you know,

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you're a tween and then you
become a teen and then I think

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at some point you started to
experiment with makeup can you

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tell us about what that was
like?

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Yeah.
So in my town, we had to Schools

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that went into one middle
school.

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So during Elementary School like
I was very lucky in the fact

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that I didn't feel like I had
any like major bullying issues

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or anything like that.
Because everybody grew up with

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me, they knew what it was.
They've seen it.

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It was what it was.
But of course when you get to

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Middle School, you're adding new
kids in right?

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And so at that point and middle
schools hard enough, the way it

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is.
And so at that point again, I

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had stopped treatments and I was
going into middle school and I

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was super self-conscious and
that's when I I started to wear

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makeup, okay?
Okay.

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And you were sort of using it as
a mask, more than anything

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because of your
self-consciousness.

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Yeah, it was definitely like my
security blanket.

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My mask like, I would not go out
without makeup on and the makeup

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that they made for birthmark
specifically was so thick and

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Cakey, and just gross.
So that was another reason why I

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like originally, when I started
wearing makeup, I kind of hated

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it because number one I was
using it at that mask number

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two, Thick and Cakey and I felt
like I had to have it on all the

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time, like to the point where,
if I went and had a sleepover

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with a friend, I would get up
before everybody else and put my

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makeup on.
Yeah, goodness and show your

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parents didn't have any issues
with you at a younger age.

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Just starting to wear makeup
because they understood gotcha.

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I was not allowed to wear makeup
until I was 16 years old.

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I was on the road and then it
was, of course, I did.

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I should totally went to the
bathroom and like, you know,

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high school and whatnot and like
through on makeup.

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But yeah, that's that to me was
like torture and unbearable

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because I was not comfortable
with the way that I looked being

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Korean or just like my skin, I
had terrible terrible acne when

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I was growing up and I just
hated the way that I looked and

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so I was using it as a mask to
in my own way, to try to, you

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know, just hide or turn myself
into somebody that I kind of

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could put up with it said.
Wow.

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And then so afterwards
interestingly enough he started

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to develop a knack for it
because I think that when you

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develop this hard relationship
with it, almost forced you to

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become a master of your own
nature so to speak and say you

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were self-taught for a while and
then you decide to go into

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acetic school, right?
Yes, I did.

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Yeah.
So I was definitely in the era

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of like, you know, when Beauty
YouTube was really big and

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everything like that, and so
that's when I started seeing and

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I've always been like a creative
person.

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So that's when I started The
same makeup as more than just a

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way to hide myself but also a
way to let out a creative outlet

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and also I still have these
memories right of like using at

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birthmark specific foundations
and things like that.

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And I'm like after watching some
of these YouTube videos I'm like

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there has to be like a better
way for me to like do my cover

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up makeup when I want to do it?
And so I started kind of

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exploring that more and that's
how I really got into makeup in

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a more like and wanting to like
pursue that as my career.

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Yeah.
So, did you do that right after

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high school?
Nope.

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So I actually have my bachelor's
degree, I went to a four-year

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College, have a degree in
communication and then it was

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even a few years after that I
kind of was getting more

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comfortable in my skin and in
myself and realizing that I

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wanted to share more of my
story.

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And so nikkietutorials, put out
a power of makeup video where

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she did like a half face with
makeup and half base without and

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just showing, you know, the
power of makeup and what it

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does.
And like, you know, you can

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embrace yourself both ways and
that's the year that I decided

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to Prosthetic school.
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posted online a photo.
So when I made my announcement,

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that I was going back to school
to be an aesthetician, I posted

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a photo of me with half makeup
on and half without and just

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saying, you know, I was kind of
sick of hiding and sick of

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feeling like I had to hide and
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And so, that was the first time
that I put my birthmark out

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there on social media.
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It was super positive and really
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kids from high.
School and stuff reach out and

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be like, this is so cool back
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So proud of you and, you know,
just having other people that

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reached out and we're like, you
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else that looks like me that has
this or whatever and being able

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to relate to people on that,
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And I want to take a pause for a
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it comes across as impactful as
important as it should, but it

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should the fact that you were
living with your skin in a way

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that caused you to not like
yourself and caused you to feel

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Uncomfortable and W a hide.
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you decided to do this with, so,
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I mean, I think and I'm going to
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I do have, I'm gonna cry, but it
takes such courage to finally be

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okay with ourselves.
And sometimes it takes years, we

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get to be adults and we're still
not okay with their selves.

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I'm still figuring this stuff
out sometimes and I'm like, out

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really old but it's like, you
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where you're like, you know, I'm
going to show you what I've

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been.
Been living with.

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And now I'm going to be okay
with myself and you're going to

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see more of this and I'm okay
and comfortable being public

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about it and think of all the
other people, Nick, each helped

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you to get to this point.
But think of all the other

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people that are now looking to
you as a role model because you

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were brave enough to take that
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And then from there it's like oh
my gosh, could you have ever

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imagined?
No no I definitely could not

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have Like what I get to do now
and being able to have a

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community that like understands
and appreciates me for me and

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like all parts of me because
like that's my big thing too.

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You know I have a love for
makeup but I also have a love

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for showing off my birthmark in
my natural skin but I just want

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people to know it is okay.
You can love both of those parts

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equally.
We don't have to choose one or

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the other like I think that's a
big thing for me and something I

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definitely promote.
Yeah, have you ever tried to

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join communities where there
were people with like, port

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wine?
Stains and things like that.

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Had been something that you've
explored.

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Yeah, so actually like a few
years ago I don't know why it

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didn't even occur to me sooner,
but I was like, there has to be

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a Facebook group for people who
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of other people with vascular,
birthmarks and port wine stains

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like me and then even when I
saw, when I started posting

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tick-tocks, I had never seen
anybody with the birthmark like

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on my eyes like I have and all
of a sudden I had a couple of

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people reach out.
They were like five.

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Never seen anyone else with eyes
like mine and I was like, oh my

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gosh, that's so cool.
Like, yeah, that is so sweet.

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And I read somewhere where you
said like earlier on, I never

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thought that anybody would ever
want to be in a relationship

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with me.
Like, who would want to date me.

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So, can you give us an update on
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I'm married to a very handsome
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You have to like let's spill the
tea like how Did this happen and

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tell us all about him?
We're tender relationship at the

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beginning of our relationship
because we have now been

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together for eight years.
It's almost been and south of

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getting my relationship.
It was when tender was new and I

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didn't tell anyone.
I was like, yeah, we met through

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friends.
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And I think telling him he was
like the first one that I've

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really felt kind of comfortable
just being like, straight-up

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honest with me.
For a lot of times like, with

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guys, I wouldn't like, show, I
wouldn't, they want to see me

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without makeup on, and it's your
Tinder profile.

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Have you in full makeup?
Yeah, yeah.

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So then it was a reveal after
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Oh, yeah.
And I mean, this whole

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revelation of me being even more
comfortable in my skin.

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I mean, has been even just
within the past few years and

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even our relationship and PC and
me through the beginning of

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like, when I still wasn't really
comfortable going out, like,

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without makeup on to like now or
like, he pretty much just only

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Caesar you without makeup on.
But yeah, I just remember it

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being like a little bit scary to
like show him and he was

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obviously super cool about it
and just was like, oh, it's just

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like part of you like whatever.
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Oh my gosh.
Well there is hope there aren't

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good in the world and yet.
That's wonderful.

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And now there's a lot of brands
that are really supporting you,

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too.
Can you tell me what it was like

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when you first got like a brand
that was interested in

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sponsoring.
Yeah, so actually one of the

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first brands that like posted me
on their page like was rare

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Beauty.
So Selena Gomez's brand which I

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think their messaging is just so
amazing and really just aligns

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with me as well.
And so when they reached out and

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were like I had to done like a
lip Swatch video and they were

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like can we share this on our
social media?

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I was like yeah, sure, not
really thinking anything of it.

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Right.
Because I'd been asked Before

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and like nothing had really come
of it.

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And then there was a day I was
with my friend at her parents

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house and we're having dinner
and also not open my phone up

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and I'm like why do I have 100
notifications on my Instagram?

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Like this is not normal.
And slowly started reaching out

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and it's just been a wild
experience for me, getting to

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work with these brands.
That number one, some of them.

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Like, at a point I couldn't
afford these Brands, I couldn't,

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you know, I couldn't dream of
even being able to use them and

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now getting to, like, go on
trips with them and being the

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face and some of their campaigns
and things like that.

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It's been and like a very wild
ride and Out of Body Experience

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using amazing.
Yeah, I see you get a lot of

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Charlotte Tilbury, not just
anything.

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You know, I bought like I was
like, eh, To buy one eyeliner.

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And I was just kind of make sure
this line wearing it right now,

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you know I've ever Cake Shop it
like stashed very neatly but

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yeah I'm like it must be nice to
go.

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These gruesome, you did an arse
event and you were on it.

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Cosmetic, I can't believe part
of the fourth Squad last year,

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which was such a cool
opportunity to.

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Yeah, so fantastic.
Well L my gosh how great that

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you're being recognized for your
uniqueness and being celebrated

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for it too.
And that really is the whole

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message.
Here it's about Frankly, I'd I

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know Society has changed because
this is the time when it is,

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okay, and we have to stay here.
Gosh, it's actually for all the

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craziness that's going on in the
world is actually a really good

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time to be alive and because
uniqueness is being celebrated

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more now than ever before,
especially among Beauty

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companies.
And so, you know, I give a big

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hand clap and all of that, to
those companies that are really

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stepping up and showcasing real
people, real body, real skin,

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real Beauty.
You sure?

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So do you have any advice for
anybody else, who might be

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struggling with their own
self-confidence?

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I actually think a big part of
it for me, was taking it a

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little bit, so I believed it
myself.

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I think that's part of like or
like almost manifesting it, I

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guess if you keep telling
yourself, you're confident even

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in situations where you don't
really feel confident, you're

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eventually going to feel
confident in my opinion.

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And I feel like that's what's
kind of worked for me because

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like even still like there have
been times where I was like, oh

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man, I Feel comfortable going
out like, without makeup on.

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And I'm like, just do it and
then I do it and I'm like, I'm

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fine we're good.
And so for me that's been a big

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thing of just kind of like
telling myself that I'm going to

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be confident and that it's going
to be okay and just believing it

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and then it eventually kind of
just happens.

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Exactly.
Exactly.

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And I like to say, you know,
because it is practice, you

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know, you have to take that
first step and the first step is

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always the hardest one.
But once you get past that and

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it's like, oh, okay.
Okay, and then it sinks into

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your knowing like you know,
nothing bad is going to happen

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especially if you're exuding
that confidence and people are

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like, hey I want to be like that
because you know, if she can be

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that self-confident with
herself, you know.

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And you know, there's no reason
that I can't either and so it

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helps to inspire others by you
just getting to that place of

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being.
Okay?

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But yeah, it is that moment
where you're jumping off the

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cliff a little bit.
Yeah, I'm sure.

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Becca.
I want to thank you so much for

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being on Role Models today.
You're an absolute treasure.

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I'll put all of your information
in the show notes and everybody

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knows where to find you.
Please follow Becca.

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Lee, Beauty everywhere on social
media.

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Thank you so much.
Thank you.