Episode 35: Ilsa Fay - Hey Ladies, We're Unlocking Secrets About Erotica Empowerment

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Hello, beautiful humans.
Welcome to another episode of

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Now, the human Beauty movement

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is all about radical Self-love
radical self-acceptance and

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radical self-expression.
So that means that we

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intentionally step outside our
comfort zone to discuss and

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provide understanding on topics
that may otherwise be perceived

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as taboo.
So, today, we are doing it.

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We are going to talk about
erotic power.

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After all, this is a shame free
environment.

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So strap on your strap, on to
guide, our discussion, We're

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Going Down Under pun intended,
to welcome, ilsa Fay to the All

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models page help from Melbourne.
Hailing from Melbourne.

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Ilsa is an award-winning
filmmaker creative director and

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founder of erotica Film
Festival.

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She is also a business coach who
works with women on financial

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empowerment.
Welcome ilsa, I appreciate you

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being here.
Thank you so much for having me.

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It's a yes, an absolute
pleasure, Jennifer.

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Wonderful first, I would love to
learn about how you came to do

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what you're doing.
Can you tell us a little bit

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about yourself?
Yes.

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Yeah, thank you.
So I mean there's a few

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different Pathways in Journeys.
I could share with you about how

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I got here, you know, because I
love lives.

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Are you know, infused with all
these different moments and

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people and experiences and
situations that lead us to the

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places that we're at.
But I feel like the most

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relevant one, you know, to talk
about the erotica film festival.

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And how I've ended up here is to
do with my journey as a mom and

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to do with my journey around
sexuality and I think that as

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women and not all women, but a
lot of women do grow up in

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environments and situations.
Shin is where we repress and

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ashamed for our sexuality and
our power.

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And so we can sometimes struggle
to really embody and accept and

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confidently Express those parts
of ourselves.

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So that was part of my journey
through teenagehood and early.

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Adulthood and I guess the point
where I'm at now, came from

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being a mom and it was a few
years ago, I was doing a self

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pleasure ritual and in that
ritual I had a vision about

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something that I wanted to
create in the world and I came

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out of that experience.
And I said to my partner at the

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time, this is what I want to
create.

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It's like this incredible erotic
Vision being and I said I can't

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do that.
It is too crazy.

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It is to out there.
This is absolutely radical

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insane.
And he turns to me and he said,

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of course, you can do it, you
can do whatever you want.

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I've got your back, I'm here to
support you and so in that

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process of beginning to launch
and create erotic events, and

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erotic events, from a position
of Celebration and acceptance as

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opposed to creating sexy events
where people like Deus, Ex

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Things that wasn't really ever
about, came through all of these

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fears and frustrations around
how I would be perceived as a

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mom, as a woman as somebody, who
is a valuable member of society

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and community, and so on and so
forth.

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And in the seating of the
erotica events, because they

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started off as live performance
art experiences.

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I did actually have to Journey
being censored being, I guess,

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put down, and trying to be
squashed because of what it was

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that I was doing and through
that seeding of erotica.

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I had this beautiful photo
Rajput created by a friend and

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colleague of ethical erotic
photography.

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And I was watching it because it
was something I was going to

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play at the event and my son who
was, you know, only about 10 at

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the time or 10, or 11 hand pass
and said, Mom, what are you

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looking at?
Can I watch that?

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My first response was like oh my
gosh no no.

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That's rests on this screen.
Absolutely not.

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And I took a moment to actually
really think and reflect into

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that and to think about what I
value around art and what I

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value around Beauty.
And what I value around ethic,

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Photography and beauty and
consent and the body.

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And I realized that everything
that I was looking at was not

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explicit and was actually first
stated through the Gaze of Art

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and so I decided that actually
it was okay.

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And so I allowed him to look and
it's kind of looked at was like,

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okay and I feel but it was not a
big deal.

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Mmm, it's like okay cool and off
he went and so that really was

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part of this journey of
realizing that I had a

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responsibility as mum and as a
woman in my community to do

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something about the issue.
Issues that I was seeing in the

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world particularly around
sexuality.

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And so, you know, tens turned
into 13 stone into 16 year olds

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and then you start to enter into
the world of pornography and I

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had concerns about what my child
was.

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Maybe one day going to see in
the school yard and I needed to

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do something about that, maybe
not specifically for him but for

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the collective community of
children about you know what

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they were going to then grow
into and grow up with and what

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they were going to consume in
the school yard, looking an

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iPhone.
Things in secret and really

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wanting to be part of a world
where sexuality and eroticism

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was not aggressive, was not full
of assault and degradation and

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demeaning behaviors and language
and wanting to create an

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environment and a situation
where intimacy, and sex and

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love, could be seen through the
Gaze of care and connection.

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That's how I got here.
Amazing amazing.

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So, I would love for you to
help.

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Dispel some more myths about
erotica, you did touch on On the

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fact that there is this
difference between erotica and

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art and worn and thinking about
what Society has essentially

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been in blazoning in front of
our children and in front of,

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you know, everybody who's
willing to view, like, what is

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the biggest difference or what
are some myths that people have

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about erotica, went as soon as
they hear it?

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Well, I think that the ultra
movement and it's been a really

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important movement that corn has
brought to the world actually,

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because what is created is the
permission for people to explore

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their fantasies.
There is no fantasy that you

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cannot go.
When find online, no matter how

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much we might feel like that's
ugly or uncomfortable horn, has

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been a Trailblazer in many, many
ways for many, many people.

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But I think that and porn is
also changing.

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Right?
So, it's the we've got the

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mainstream gaze over it, but
it's also being changed by

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women, like me by trans folk
like we're folk by other people

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who want to create an
experience, something different.

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So I think one of the myths is
that corn is only one particular

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section of the market of the
sexuality.

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Market, and that is changing.
And I think the reason why

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erotica is so important is
because we're bringing consent,

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we're bringing the consent of
the body, right?

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So when you working with
sexuality, when you look at

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something like contractual
agreement, if you're an artist

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or a performer, you can be over
18 or whatever, the legal age of

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consent is in your country.
And say, yes, I agree to do x, y

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and said they are within my
boundaries that I agree to do.

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And then you have the consent of
the body and the consent of the

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body is something very different
because you can't sign an

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agreement.
It says my body can sense

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because you might get into an
experience or a situation where

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the person that you think is
good that you think is fine and

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then you get there and if your
sensitized your body might

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contract just a little bit and
that's enough to recognize that

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your body is actually not
consenting to that act and it

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might not be that.
It's not consenting ever, it's

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just not consenting right now or
it could be not ever.

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So I think that when we're
looking at a rod occur and in

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particular the films that we
bring into the erotica Film

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Festival, but we're really
seeking and looking for is the

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The consent of the body inside
the experience.

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So that's why, so many of our
films are made by regular people

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who have a desire to express
themselves often.

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It's just an expression of
themselves.

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Not with another person, we're
not purely an explicit Film

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Festival.
So our primary gazes on

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sensuality and intimacy.
So I think bringing through

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consent and bringing through
ART, a really important elements

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to start to change the
narratives around porn.

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And the way that people use Pawn
because it has So destructive

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and because it can be so
addictive and so harmful to

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people's experiences of
themselves and of their sex

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lives.
We really want to start to see

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horn being infused from The Gaze
of Art and Beauty.

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I think I understand, but I want
to take it a little bit further,

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because I think that a lot of
people would say, well with

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porn, there's actors and
certainly, they're consenting,

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otherwise it wouldn't be out
there.

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So what then really would be the
difference because it's not

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rape, like rape is not
consensual and I think Eddie

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would agree on that.
That is a hard line, but there

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still seems to be this fuzziness
between where the line is of

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where porn begins and ends.
And then we're erotica of begins

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and ends or is it not to be a?
Maybe it's more subjective.

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Maybe it is something with more
fluid.

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Yeah, sure.
And hear what you're saying.

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I don't think that there is a
specific line between porn and

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erotica.
I mean, porn is erotic, and

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erotica can also be porn.
And I think dispelling, the, the

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taboo nature of the word Pawn is
very important because it

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creates It's a broader, gays and
possibility to receive more

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forms of sexuality, and more
forms of communication, and

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interest and fantasy.
And it dispels, I guess the

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ugliness and the rejection Airy
nature that we have over

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sexuality.
So I think that that Parts

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important but the piece that I'm
really speaking to a rankine

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center of the body doesn't mean
that people are being raped.

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It doesn't mean that at all
right.

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That's a totally not the
conversation what we're talking

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about is if I was to meet you in
person and sometimes you know

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you have this connection with
something like You just going to

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hug them, right?
This is straightaway,

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recognition of the bodies that
it feels good and safe and

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exciting to come together.
And sometimes you meet somebody

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and you're like, hmm, I actually
don't want to hug this person.

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Maybe I'm okay with a handshake.
Maybe, I'm okay.

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Just with a wave, right?
These are things that we teach

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our children.
Would you like a hug, a

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handshake, or high five or a
wave?

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Really good ways to teach
consent and these principles

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have to remain through
adulthood, and in particular,

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through erotic content, just
because I have said to somebody

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while, yes, I agree.
Ready to do the sex act with you

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on paper on the day.
My body might just be an

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absolute.
No.

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Like I have just do not want to
do this.

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I don't like your energy or I
don't feel very good today, I

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don't feel safe, I don't feel
emotionally.

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Well I don't feel well slept you
know, whatever reason it might

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be too, they're not actually be
wanting to or willing to engage

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in that act.
So that's really it's a nuance

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and it become P measured because
it's different to each and every

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single person in each and every
single moment.

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Yeah.
So where is he?

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You were before a bit concerned
about what your son or what any

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child's might be consuming on
the play, you know, and we're

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ground or what they might be
looking at on their own time.

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Then how would you be able to
instruct your child or others,

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to be able to have that
discernment or to know whether

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or not what they're looking at
is Art and whether or not it's

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not necessarily.
So I mean, this is a question

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for each parent to answer for
themselves.

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I think, ultimately, we all come
to the table as adults and

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parents were very From value
sets and these sorts of

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conversations around sex and
sexuality and consent start when

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children are tiny, you know,
like not forcing them to hug,

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grandparents, not forcing them
to hug you, you know, I think

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one of the biggest myths around
being a parent is that out our

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children are obliged to like to
hug us, and, to love us.

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And that we are owed that in
some way because we have birthed

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our children or created, or
taking care of them and it's not

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true.
Our children are sovereign

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beings.
Yes, and they get to choose also

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in each and every moment whether
they want to hug you or say I

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love you or you know, follow
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that.
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appreciation for the consent of
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also your own body.
Is it Karen?

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You know saying things like hey
I'm actually feeling really mad

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about something right now and I
actually I love you.

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I don't really want to hug right
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I need some space, being able to
teach children these sorts of

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languages and where affection or
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In touch isn't necessarily
representative of them being

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rejected, but actually is a
healthy measure of, you know,

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emotional health, and
intelligence inside.

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The household is deeply
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their own sense of self.
But also how they then start to

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navigate their relationships in
friendships and other further

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Intimate Relationships as they
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And then, you know, having that
level of self, understanding

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emotional intelligence, the
capacity for compassion and

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empathy can only be a good thing
for them, how they start to

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engage.
Age with and use erotic and

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sexual content.
I think that that is so powerful

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because I can certainly see how
in many cases with parenting.

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There is such a desire to
control the environment control

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with their watching shot.
You know keep things away from

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them but kids are smart, kids
know, they'll go around it

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somehow.
So if you don't have those

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conversations overtly to say,
this is what you're viewing,

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this is how you can look at it
and this is the way that I would

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instruct you to, you know, think
about things and hand, you know,

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trust your feelings.
And set up those boundaries or

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there's delineations where you
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Because otherwise people like, I
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feelings.
I better give them a hug or I

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don't want to hurt that dudes
feelings, I better get, you

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know, it could carry on so a lot
of different intimate areas of

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the life without you even
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Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, it is amazing.

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And I think so many people, at
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have had experiences, where we
have done things with people, in

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our teenage years that on
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In our other who, there's no way
we would have done that with the

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knowledge, and the self
certainty that we experience

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now.
And that's the sense of value at

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its that we, we now deeply value
ourselves in our own boundaries,

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more than the feeling of, or the
experience of being bullied

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rejected, shamed, whatever it
might be by whoever.

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And so seeding that from a very
young age that their value is

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higher than any of those other
things creates a really powerful

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I guess, Essence and vibration
in the schoolyard like if

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they're willing to stand.
To themselves then they probably

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willing to stand for others as
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And that's a powerful thing to
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Absolutely, let's shift gears
and talk a little bit about the

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idea of sensuality and power.
You know, we talk about the

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sacral and the solar plexus
chakra is and the two of them

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are of course very close to each
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I would love for you to give
everybody just a little bit of a

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101 on that great, I love
chakras.

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So this the sacral sits in the
womb space whether you have a

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room or not irregardless, Of
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That is the location inside of
the body, that, that Center

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sits.
And it generally holds themes

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around creativity, sexuality,
try belonging community, and

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those sorts of things, then we
have the power center and that

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sits in the solar plexus.
And those themes are generally

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related to a more masculine
themes of willpower buyers on

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and so forth.
So what you're really looking at

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is the sequel which is more of a
feminist in time than you've got

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the solar plexus which is more
of a masculine Center of come to

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me.
I feel like Integration of those

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two pieces is what brings
through the integration of

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Manatee, right?
And it will come up and into the

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heart.
So you bring the feminine and

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the masculine up into the heart
and you have integration, right?

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It's beautiful.
The way that all of these

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ancient systems work and I'm
certainly no expert on it.

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But the integration of
sensuality and personal power,

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right?
Will being the seat of personal

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power rings through levels of
confidence levels of high

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self-worth.
The ability to make change in

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the world, the ability to stand
things that are important.

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And I think what it does, when
people really start to get this

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piece and integrate it in their
own life, is it starts to dispel

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the distortions that we see
around sexuality and power.

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So, some of the ways that
distorted sexuality and power

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can play out in many, many
different ways, including the

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more aggressive tones that you
see.

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In some people, the more
submissive tones that you see in

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other people sexually, but it
can also play out in non-sexual

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ways, people who feel
disempowered sexually.

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Can become aggressive or overly
submissive in very regular

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scenarios in the workplace for
instance because they don't have

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an integration of their worth
and of their personal power.

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And that, you know, you can
start to see things like passive

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aggression, River bullying, lots
of different manipulations and

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aggressions that start to come
out.

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When these two power centers are
not really well integrated, the

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place that I see is also in
parenting when people aren't

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satisfied in their sexual
Intimate Relationships, they can

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Outsource Source, their love
needs to children, or to their

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parents or, you know, to all
sorts of very weird and

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wonderful or not.
So wonderful ways, interesting.

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So, you know, certainly some
people are very confident in the

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business as you had mentioned
but not necessarily in their

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bodies and because there is this
disintegration there is this

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sense of an imbalance in many
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So what are some of the things
that people can do to help

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synergize these?
Of course awareness I think is

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the First thing, as you said,
you know, if you sense that

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you're manipulative, a few
cents, passive aggressive

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nature.
If you sense that there's

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something going on, it's like,
okay, there's an imbalance here,

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but how do I fix this?
What do I do about it?

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This is the question, isn't it?
You know, if you don't even have

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awareness to begin with?
Well, there's very little, that

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can be done and if you're
somebody who is experiencing

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actually, this is a great way to
describe it.

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If you're somebody who
experiences a lot of drama, or

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if you constantly feel like
people are doing things to you,

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like you're feeling Victimized
or you feeling bullied.

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All this being manipulated if
you feel like that's happening

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to you a lot, then chances are
that there's something that's

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distorted, there's something
that's out of balance.

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Now it doesn't mean that it's
your fault.

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What it means is that there's
something there to pay attention

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to because you're not fully in
your power, that's what that

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means.
Right, anyway, they were there's

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drama Distortion, frustration,
anger upset.

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There's usually a power
imbalance going on and those

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sorts of situations are designed
to present the Woody of power

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returning to an equilibrium
effectively, like, anger is a

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state of being that attempts to
bring back a state of

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equilibrium.
Mmm.

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So if you're a person who's on
the other end of the spectrum,

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who is highly aggressive, who is
always feeling like it's

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everybody else's fault and
you're, you know, kind of always

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manipulating places and
situations around you.

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Chances are you'll probably also
feel like a victim, but in a

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totally different way, there
will be a sense of

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self-righteousness entitlement.
Lots of States spent in anger

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and things like that.
And that's also a sign.

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In that there's a lack of
self-awareness around the power

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imbalances internally, so ways
to, I guess to resolve that if

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you don't have awareness,
there's not much to do.

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Yes.
But if you do have some threads

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of awareness, then, you know, I
really great place to start is

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to just keep coming back to the
body.

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You know, there's lots of
breathwork, there's lots of

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meditation practices.
There's, you know, there's lots

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of very simple tools that can
really deeply support people

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journaling seeking support with
therapy Retreat spaces.

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Workshops all of these tools
that we have so widely available

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to us in modern culture, are
fantastic tools for that

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Journey.
That's either here.

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That's why we're so excited
about them listening to

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podcasts.
Like yours is such a great

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opportunity to bring through
different sense of awareness has

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from different speakers that can
support many Awakenings and

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Revelations within yourself to
start to support healing or

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integration.
So there's so many different

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Avenues But ultimately when
we're dealing with power

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imbalances, the only person who
can ever Ever do that work.

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And bring it back to wholeness.
Is you and I think that one

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piece of awareness is, do you
really truly feel happy?

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Do you really feel truly content
with yourself?

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Are you really feeling joy in
your life or when you start

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feeling that victim complex or
if you feel that you're being

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bullied or otherwise if you feel
that people are intimidated by

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you and shunning you and there's
that power imbalance that way,

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then those are cues.
Those are absolute cues and the

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I guess it's also does beg the
next Because obviously living

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out your fantasies and thinking
about erotica, some parts of

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fetishism talk about
submissiveness and dominance.

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And so if somebody feels that
they're getting aroused or

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turned on by being a submissive
and then they find a, you know,

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a dominant player who is willing
and consensual is that then

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harmonious from an external
perspective, the vice versa.

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If somebody is a DOT you know
it's dominant and find

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submissiveness in somebody else
and then they come together is

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that something that helps to
create Create coherence or is

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that person really trying to
look for something where it's a

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little bit more balanced by
themselves rather than seeking

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it from somebody else?
Mmm, that's a great question and

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My Views and perspectives on
that particular scenario have

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actually radically changed over
time.

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As I have matured as a person I
think fundamentally the external

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gaze.
When somebody's personal

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experience is completely
irrelevant.

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You know, you we are living our
personal experiences and my

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opinion or that of any other
person's is completely

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irrelevant.
Somebody's personal Journey.

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Ultimately.
So there's that piece you know

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you do you live the experience
that you need to live.

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And I think that potentially
some guiding forces and factors

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would be e regardless of the
situation or the experience or

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the fetish that you find
yourself in.

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Do you continue to feel
empowered to change that at any

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time?
If you feel like you don't have

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that capacity then something
needs to happen.

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But if you always feel like you
can have a conversation changed,

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leave negotiate then, enjoy your
life, have a great time,

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whatever, whatever you took me.
Thing.

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However, I have also considered
that as people are playing out

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these roles and Fantasies I have
considered that they Loop.

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You do see some people in who
have a particular fetish who

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Loop, and who remains stuck
inside of that fetish for ever?

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And I don't know that as humans
we are designed to sit in Loops.

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I think that we are designed to
evolve and so I have wondered

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whether fetishes when they've
actually become fully integrated

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weather there.
Three parts of self better

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externalized and we play out the
experience until it can come

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into a place of wholeness and
then as it comes to into a place

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of wholeness, potentially
there's another exciting fetish

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or desire that arises that, then
we want to play that out.

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And so it's almost like a
healing Journey.

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So to speak, which doesn't
necessarily mean that there's

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been trauma.
It can just be these are parts

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of the human soul that we are
just integrating in this

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particular lifetime for no other
reason other than this is just

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what we've been given, right?
So I have considered that and

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you know, I know my personal
journey through sexuality, my

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desires and my fantasies have
changed a great deal.

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And I think that one of the
reasons why for me I have never

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looped is because I've been with
my partner for eight years and

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00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,100
we have journeyed those things
together in a very honest

455
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:54,300
consensual High communication
space around how we feel what we

456
00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:57,300
want, what we don't like where
we're at, you know, over a long

457
00:22:57,300 --> 00:22:59,400
period of time and we have both
been willing.

458
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,600
To evolve and I think sometimes
one person can be ready to

459
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,400
evolve, but they're not ready to
leave.

460
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,100
They don't want to sacrifice the
person that they're with, in

461
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,900
order to evolve past that if
that person is looping.

462
00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:13,400
So it's, you know, it's complex
human behavior, Human

463
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,900
Relationships.
Many people are not willing to

464
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:19,000
sacrifice relationships for
their own personal Soul journey.

465
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,300
And I think that the people who
are willing to sacrifice

466
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,300
personal relationships for their
soul, Journey are going to have

467
00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:27,900
a more satisfying overall
enriched experience of their

468
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,500
life very well sir.
Said, I have never heard it in

469
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:34,900
that way before and I think that
is so enlightening and I think

470
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,400
that you're exactly right.
I mean, certainly we are not

471
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,700
here to fix anybody.
This is not what this is.

472
00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:43,900
It's really like, are you
listening and reflecting upon

473
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:46,200
these words?
And if you're sensing that,

474
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,600
there is something about it that
perhaps in your behavior,

475
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,700
feeling a compulsion where, you
know, you can't just easily walk

476
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:54,800
away from it.
Then you might be getting into

477
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,300
that Loop.
You might be getting into an

478
00:23:56,308 --> 00:23:59,300
addictive behavior, which is not
necessarily the healthiest.

479
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,300
You potentially, but explore it
for yourself.

480
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:06,100
These are just suggestions and
thoughts to help us all back on

481
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:09,800
the journey to ourselves as it
is, certainly now Elsa, I know

482
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,800
you coach women mostly and the
fascinating thing that I found

483
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800
was that you have them get in
touch with their masculine

484
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,800
energy and I would have never
thought about that for business.

485
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,400
But I would love for you to
speak about that.

486
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,700
Yes, what?
You know, I've been through my

487
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,300
personal Journey has been to
come through the Feminine

488
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:28,500
Mystique Arts.
I came through the sacred,

489
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,900
sexuality Journey.
Yeah, I came through the female

490
00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,200
feminine empowerment, journey
and lived, and breathed, in that

491
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,000
conscious space, for quite a
period of time, and it's

492
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,300
beautiful and it's incredible.
And there's lots of

493
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:44,500
self-pleasure and self love and
creativity and art and not a lot

494
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,900
of the ability to solve provide
English.

495
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,500
There you go.
Great dreams.

496
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:53,300
You know, that that space is
hanging out with people who

497
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:55,900
don't have a lot of money, mean
beautiful spaces.

498
00:24:55,900 --> 00:25:01,800
Drinking chai And it's overrun
with particular demographic of

499
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,200
younger people, right?
Because as you start to get

500
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,400
older than you have more
responsibilities, or children or

501
00:25:06,408 --> 00:25:10,000
financial commitments, and so
we're forced into roles and

502
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800
positions and situations that
can actually provide us

503
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,200
Financial income, right?
So that's kind of what happens

504
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,200
there.
But what I saw was that so many

505
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,700
women, myself included, wanted
this new experience of feminine

506
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,000
mysticism and empowerment to be
the way that we lived our life

507
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,200
forever.
We didn't want it to be Visiting

508
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,400
a retreat on the weekend, and
then going back to our day job.

509
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,100
That's not the integration that
so many people want.

510
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,500
They want it to be completely
integrated, you know, we as a

511
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,300
the younger kind of generation
these days, we want to be able

512
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,300
to travel.
We want to better work from

513
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,400
anywhere in the world.
We want to be able to have, you

514
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,000
know, incredible amazing
incomes, very mineral

515
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,100
responsibilities and sitting
around in women's circles.

516
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:56,000
Talking about our feelings is
not always conducive to having

517
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,200
that sort of Lifestyle, right?
Right?

518
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,300
So part of the pathway that
being on, is to mature the

519
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:04,100
feminine and I've had an
incredible Mentor who supported

520
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,200
me with that.
And what that means is to go

521
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600
from the image who are feminine,
who's like, all the no feelings.

522
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,500
It's like, I've got all these
feelings and you need to listen

523
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:14,700
to me, and I'm Carly embodied,
right?

524
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,100
So it's kind of to go from that
the goddess complex into the

525
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:22,000
mature feminine, who can still
feel everything, but it's not

526
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200
actually about.
So I actually about her, you

527
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,000
know, it's controlled.
It's the inner experience of

528
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,100
chaos from Place of pure
creation and that level of

529
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:34,700
maturity requires the masculine
to be on board inside of the

530
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,600
system.
Because the masculine is the

531
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,500
provider.
He creates structure, he creates

532
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:43,200
consistency, he protects the
value of the feminine.

533
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,500
He doesn't need to like, do all
this business because he's like,

534
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,500
these are my boundaries and I
don't need to scream at you

535
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:51,300
that.
I'm the goddess incarnated

536
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:54,700
because these are my boundaries
and you either meet these

537
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,600
boundaries or you don't.
And if you don't meet them

538
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,900
there's no drama where Just not
a match, you know, it comes very

539
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:02,200
simple.
I think that that is a really

540
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,700
wonderful way of looking at it
because in life, and if we think

541
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,800
about evolutionary time and we
are in a time of extraordinary

542
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,500
at the Ascension, it's
accelerating so dramatically

543
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:15,900
where roles and responsibilities
are shifting and it does require

544
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:19,800
you know women to take on
masculine energy and you know

545
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,300
either externally or internally
so that we can provide for

546
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,300
ourselves.
If that is our calling if that's

547
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,300
what really makes us feel a
little I am n our heart sank.

548
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:33,800
And so from the perspective of
support, or from the perspective

549
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,900
of embodying, it and getting a
coach such as yourself to help

550
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,800
light.
That way, it's a very powerful

551
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,800
thing at Bennett will help with
that integration of the two

552
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600
chakras of the sacral and the
solar plexus Essence.

553
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,500
And so that you can essentially
be whole and balanced in

554
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,900
Wellness to go then Borth and
live the life that you wish to

555
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,300
manifest.
Yeah, absolutely you know what?

556
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:57,800
I think having the masculine
qualities integrated doesn't

557
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,400
Sara Lee mean that you can't
then experience them in the

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800
external world.
If you are heterosexually

559
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
orientated, but it doesn't mean
that what it actually means is

560
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800
that you are choosing to value
your experience of life.

561
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,100
So highly, you might choose to
integrate those masculine

562
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,800
principles so that you can build
a business.

563
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,400
So that you can be the CEO of an
organization, you could do that,

564
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,900
but you could also do it.
Just so that you have precise

565
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:23,100
and pristine expectations, and
boundaries in getting your

566
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,000
children to school and having
lunches made, and having the

567
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,800
house, the way that you desire
it to And the friendships the

568
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,700
way you desire, it to be and the
sex life that you desire it to

569
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:32,800
be.
You know, there's so many ways

570
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,700
they can be integrated to create
a really rich and beautiful

571
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:38,800
life.
And what I have seen is that as

572
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:40,900
women that I've coached have
integrated the masculine

573
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:45,100
qualities, they have always
called in higher matches of

574
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,300
mask, the external masculine.
If they haven't been partnered

575
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:51,300
and for people who have been
partnered that their experience

576
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,500
of that partnership has elevated
into something, even more

577
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,800
beautiful, and more special,
because they're not constantly

578
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,900
Outsourcing Which means that
their external masculine can

579
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,300
really sit in their purity
without being like sucked from

580
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,100
basically.
Hmm, he would have fun.

581
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,300
And now, when we talk about
eroticism, I know that you've

582
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,100
got this beautiful Film Festival
will have to talk about that in

583
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,000
a moment too.
But you know, people think about

584
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800
eroticism and sensuality
sexuality and they think, you

585
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,700
know, this doesn't have any
place in the workplace like I

586
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,500
need to check my set sensuality
at the door when I enter into an

587
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,500
office or if I'm, you know, on
with a bunch of colleagues and

588
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,800
so what would be your response
to somebody?

589
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,800
Thinks that way it's a good
question.

590
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,900
There are places where it's not
appropriate actually, you know

591
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:35,000
that's just true.
And you know, if you're

592
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000
questioning whether something is
appropriate or not, you can

593
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,300
start to flip between, well, I
have a right to express my

594
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:45,200
sensuality wherever I want for
me, that's a distorted us a

595
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,000
shadow of in all likelihood, the
feminine entitlement to be

596
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,200
whoever.
She wants to be wherever she

597
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
wants to be it.
But when your sexuality, your

598
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,500
sexuality is integrated, I mean,
it just doesn't need to be

599
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,100
everywhere.
I mean, it just doesn't There

600
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,600
are places where it's
appropriate with your partner,

601
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,100
with friends out in different
adult, places and Landscapes.

602
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,900
And Then There Are Places where
it doesn't need to be there.

603
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,100
It doesn't mean that you then
cutting it out but if you're at

604
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,000
a five year olds children party
and you really feel the need to

605
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,700
express your sensuality then I
think there's a problem and the

606
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:19,500
problem is that the sensuality
of the sexuality is an actually

607
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,900
integrated because it's actually
not an appropriate space to

608
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:24,600
bring through that type of
energy.

609
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,100
Mmm, right.
And that's different needing to

610
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,500
express.
Sexuality is very different to

611
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:33,500
having levels of comfortability
with your own sexuality.

612
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,300
So you can still experience
yourself as a sensual person at

613
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,300
all times without having to
bring that energy overtly into a

614
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:42,600
space.
Mmm.

615
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,100
Yeah, you know just like we are
all multifaceted beings you know

616
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,600
life and its manifestations do
have facets and so you know

617
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,900
creating a space and a place for
ideal energy to shine and

618
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,300
Thrive, I think might be you're
a dancer.

619
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:59,400
And I was when you were just
Just making that statement about

620
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,900
why you should be able to accept
reminded me, again, of that

621
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,400
image or feminine potentially,
yeah, you know, one that's just

622
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,100
feels very entitled and should
be able to self express no

623
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,100
matter who, what, where when
they wish to yeah, Thanksgiving

624
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,100
dinner, table, might not be
quite right over here in

625
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,700
America.
Maybe over in Australia.

626
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:19,100
You've got other things those
days.

627
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:23,100
And so getting back to the fact
that you're a mom and I'm a mom,

628
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,000
we know.
Like once you have a child life

629
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,700
changes, your life is forever.
Changed your pretty Reborn and

630
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:31,200
you're learning life all over
again.

631
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,800
And so, one thing that happens
is their libido can plummet man,

632
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,800
when you know, you've got
nappies to change and you've got

633
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,500
kids to get to school and, you
know, you're putting other

634
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,400
people first.
Like, the thing that I thought

635
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,700
was very amusing that you
mention is, like reclaiming, the

636
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,700
MILF, which I think is
absolutely genius.

637
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,700
What would you say are some ways
that mothers can get their sexy

638
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:56,600
back?
Well, I mean, one of the ways

639
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,700
that I like to work work is
actually fine like social media.

640
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,800
A place of deep inspiration for
this because there are some

641
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,600
really hot celebrities who
embody this.

642
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:10,300
The MILF archetype, you know,
like to the most gorgeous level

643
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,300
and one of them is Kim
Kardashian, absolutely, right.

644
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:17,500
There is nothing that that woman
does, that is not hot, you know,

645
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,000
where and the whole Kardashian
kind of gender clan for sell

646
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,200
sex.
They sell it everywhere and they

647
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,400
are and they Empower.
Yeah, and power.

648
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,300
And there, you know,
financially, very successful and

649
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,900
all sorts of other Things.
So I think, you know, if you're

650
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:34,200
struggling to reconnect your
sexuality, if social media is

651
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,000
supportive and it might not be
then, curating the feed as like

652
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,300
a mood board or an inspiration
board and then starting to find

653
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:45,600
ways to incorporate that and it
could be through doing your hair

654
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,200
particular way or just putting
on a little bit of makeup if

655
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,400
that's what makes you feel good
or particular close.

656
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
So there's kind of those
external ways that we can start

657
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,600
to support the feminine
re-emergence the center.

658
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Jewellery emergence and the
external ways for the feminine

659
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,100
is important because one of the
gifts of the feminine is

660
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:07,700
adornment, you know, creating
the beautiful crowns and the

661
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,600
hair and are there's a it's not
superficial, it's just part of

662
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600
the way that the feminine
expresses herself.

663
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,400
So there's that way and the
other way is to step into your

664
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,500
masculine and actively create
times places and spaces where

665
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,400
you get to be with yourself.
And that could look like a bath,

666
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,700
the 20 minutes, it could look
like taking half an hour.

667
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,800
To lay on your bed and just hold
your heart.

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,100
You know.
Usually when these sorts of

669
00:33:32,108 --> 00:33:34,500
practices start out, it's not
always that pleasurable.

670
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,100
Usually there's a lot of emotion
to be released so you can be

671
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:38,900
tears.
It can be a lot of stuff out in

672
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:42,200
the heart.
The Yoni can feel neglected and

673
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,700
contracted and sometimes sore or
have things that she still

674
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,500
healing from through pregnancy.
And I'm not an expert in that

675
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,000
but there are lots of them out
there.

676
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400
So there's, you know, coming
back and spending time with the

677
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,000
body is just so important and
recognizing that you don't have

678
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400
to be all explicitly.
Turned on and aroused and

679
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,100
available for sex or intimacy.
That's not the measure of

680
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:06,000
whether you're doing it, right?
I mean, there is no measure of

681
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,300
doing it, right?
Other than the, how do you feel

682
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:12,300
is your nervous system at ease?
Do you feel rested is your belly

683
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:15,199
relaxed?
Can you smile and can you laugh?

684
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,300
And do you feel connected and
supported in your experience of

685
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:19,900
life?
So I think that they're probably

686
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:21,600
better places to start, you
know?

687
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,199
And then you can start to really
go down the or do I want to

688
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,900
solve pleasure and me, they use
a crystal wand and maybe I Want

689
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,500
to lay in the sun naked.
And there's so many different

690
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:35,100
ways to start to connect and
awaken that level of sexuality

691
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,900
and sensuality again, and it
will be different for everybody.

692
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,300
Yeah.
And the idea of not judging

693
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:44,400
yourself or feeling guilty for
taking that time and

694
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,300
recognizing, and honoring the
fact that you deserve it.

695
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:50,000
Because look, what you've done,
you've created a human being,

696
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,300
that's amazing.
Yeah, that's right.

697
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,500
I mean, you know, my motherhood
Journey began before I came into

698
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:58,700
this kind of sacred sexuality,
and Empowered living.

699
00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:01,900
And so, you know I don't have
those reference points as a

700
00:35:01,908 --> 00:35:05,400
first mum, you know, but I have
them as a mum with with a

701
00:35:05,408 --> 00:35:08,300
slightly older child and you
know those being able to talk

702
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,800
about consent as we talked about
at the start and be able to

703
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,200
create space.
You know you just start with the

704
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things that you can.
You just start where you can

705
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,300
with what feels doable.
There's no right way.

706
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:22,200
There's no winning no.
Yeah now you can go very good

707
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600
LOL survey.
It was absolutely a pleasure to

708
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600
speak with you.
Thank you so much for all of

709
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,900
your Or wisdom, this has been
truly extraordinary and I'll put

710
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all of your information in the
show notes.

711
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So people know where to find
you, everyone.

712
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This is ill, Sofia.
Please find her and follow her

713
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,600
and we wish you a blessed day.
Great, thank you so much to in

714
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the fall.