Episode 6: Elizabeth Mavros @elizabethsydney - Neurodivergent Beauty

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Welcome, beautiful.
Humans.

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I'm so glad to be back for
another episode of Role Models.

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My name is Jennifer Norman.
I'm the founder of the human

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Beauty movement and your host
today.

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My special guest is a warrior of
a gal.

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Her name is Elizabeth mavros who
goes by the handle at Elizabeth,

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Sydney, Elizabeth is 18 years
old and she's already gone.

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Garnered hundreds of thousands
of followers on Tick, Tock for

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her captivating makeup Artistry,
but that's not the full story.

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Elizabeth was diagnosed with
both ADHD and OCD and so makeup

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became a soothing outlet for her
expressiveness.

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She also started designing
fashion.

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Her goal is to help break the
stigma surrounding mental

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disorders and create a more
accepting Society.

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Welcome Elizabeth.
Thank you so much for having me.

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Tell us a little bit about
yourself.

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When did she?
You fall in love with makeup and

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with fashion.
It's been throughout my life.

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I would watch Project Runway
like five they did this

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duct-tape challenge.
It was like an unconventional

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challenge.
So then I went and made myself a

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duct tape stir.
And I wore it to school.

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I just love making statements,
and I always put her on with

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makeup ever since I was little
to the probably sort of wearing

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it regularly at around like 12.
I just love playing around a bit

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and then during quarantine.
I got really into creative

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makeup and it became one of my
hobbies.

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So that was super For fun
throughout my whole life.

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I've just been really into
fashion and makeup and just all

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girly things.
Yeah, we will, you're one of the

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lucky ones because I tell you, I
grew up with a strict upbringing

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where I wasn't allowed to wear
makeup until I was 16.

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I say it wasn't allowed to, but
but it's amazing that you were

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able to find that passion early
on.

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Now simultaneously, you've been
diagnosed with specific

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ailments.
Can you tell us about that?

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Yeah, so I actually got
diagnosed pretty late.

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So throughout my childhood.
I definitely struggled with a

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lot of anxiety.
I had symptoms of OCD.

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I did compulsions.
Most of them were actually

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mental compulsions.
It was like, rituals that I had

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to just like, think over and
over again or like almost like

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talk myself out of an intrusive
thought.

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And so I also have ADHD, so just
growing up.

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It was really hard for me to
pay.

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Attention in school.
I was always a really good

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student.
But my teachers, number one

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complaint, was her head is in
the clouds.

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She's always daydreaming.
She's not paying attention.

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As I kept getting in trouble,
just because I wasn't paying

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attention and like, you know, as
a little seven-year-old that

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could make you feel really bad
about yourself said that did

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lead to social anxiety.
I knew that there was something

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different about me when I was
little, because I just felt

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different than other kids, even
though I had plenty of friends.

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I felt like I couldn't always
relate to them, and that was

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just because my brain works
differently, but I didn't know

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that I didn't How to vocalize
it?

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And be like I need help.
This is a problem.

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I kind of thought it was normal.
Totally went over my head.

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When I got to middle school.
I definitely struggled a lot

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with social anxiety.
I mean, it's Middle School.

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We're all weird and middle
school, but I just felt like I

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was like so much weirder than
everyone.

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Everyone is looking at me and
eighth grade.

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I was my trauma year.
That was kind of when it just

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triggered.
All of my symptoms of my mental

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illnesses, all my symptoms were
headed to and they went to a 10

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and I know what was wrong.
I figured I'm recovering from

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trauma.
I'm just recovering from trauma.

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I'm going to be better.
I was just dealing with OCD and

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stuff.
And mentally.

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I was just so miserable and that
kind of just continue throughout

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the year.
I was on my dance team at School

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freshman year, and it was always
my dream to be on this team and

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I auditioned the year before and
I made it, and I was so happy,

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but it ended up being kind of
toxic.

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It wasn't really a healthy
environment for me.

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Definitely.
I have like a few performances

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that just didn't go the
greatest.

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I was really nervous.
So it made me feel really sick

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while I was onstage.
So I developed this year

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performing and that's where
everything just went downhill.

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I was terrified of Performing.
Even though I had been a dancer

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since I was 22 and I also did
show choir and cheerleading and

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theater like all throughout
middle school.

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So it was very unusual for me
that now I was having panic

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attacks, even at the thought of
like doing a presentation in

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front of my class.
I didn't want to go to therapy.

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I have some pretty bad
experiences with people who were

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struggling with mental illness.
I knew actually quite a few

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people that would use it as an
excuse, almost to be mean, to

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their friends and be not so
great people.

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And in middle school, there was
a couple people that there were

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rumors that they were faking it.
I'm not sure if that was true.

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But that anyone else who was
struggling, they were

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automatically accused of Faking
to.

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So I was definitely affected by
the stigma.

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So it's like, at that point.
I knew I needed help and I

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didn't want it until I had to
quit.

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The dance team that I had
dreamed of being on for all of

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middle school.
At that point.

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I was like I married and my mom
kind of The to.

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And so I started therapy and it
was really nice to be validated

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by a professional because they
understood what I was feeling

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and why at the point I was
misdiagnosed with generalized,

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anxiety disorder.
I was anxious about everything.

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So bam, generalized anxiety
disorder.

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It was OCD all the symptoms.
I've been feeling even like with

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my phobia of performing.
It was all very OCD related

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symptoms because I was doing,
like, mental rituals and like

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almost like replaying the
hypothetical performance in my

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head like Like over and over
again until I fell about her

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sophomore year.
Yeah, I think things definitely

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did get better and then covid
happened.

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Eventually I was able to dance
again.

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I'm doing ballet right now.
I'm currently on point which I

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thought I wouldn't have the
opportunity to do.

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So, I'm really happy, but I
definitely learned to put dance

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in its place because there can
be some very mean girls, it

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Studios.
And you don't want to let them

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to find that your worth, because
that happens to a lot of

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dancers, with by why a lot of us
have anxiety during quarantine,

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my OCD was Just on a whole other
level, my intrusive thoughts

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weren't very great.
I didn't know what intrusive

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thoughts were.
I didn't realize that it was

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something that you did not want.
I thought this was like the

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secret desire within that I
learned.

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But intrusive thoughts were I
kept everybody except for myself

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because I was very
self-conscious like OCD is like

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obsessions and compulsions, but
the compulsions aren't physical.

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So say like for example, you
have a germ phobia.

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So you have a hand washing
compulsion, instead of like

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washing your hands over and over
again.

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You will just be thinking like,
what did I touch?

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And what did I do?
But just The point where it's

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very repetitive just like it
would be if you're washing your

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hands over and over again.
Still didn't tell my therapist

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because I was way too scared to
tell her about my intrusive

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thoughts.
The next year I did.

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She was like, oh, yeah, you have
a seating.

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So that's when we realized that
generalized anxiety was a

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misdiagnosis.
So that was summer of 2021.

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In January.
I got diagnosed with ADHD.

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I actually saw a bunch of tech
talks about ADHD and women and

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how it's not as frequently
diagnosed.

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Because, usually, when you think
ADHD, you think of hyperactive

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little boys, that wasn't me.
I Have the inattentive type.

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So I wasn't super hyper active
as a kid.

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After I seen those tick-tocks.
I went and did a bunch of

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research and then I showed the
information to my therapist.

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And again, we went through the
criteria and she just looked at

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me and she was like, you hit
every single Mark.

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That was how I got diagnosed
with ADHD and OCD.

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I don't advocate for
self-diagnosing, just by doing a

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Google Search and being like, I
have this.

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I think that every professional
diagnosis can't start with a

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self diagnosis, because you're
the one who has to go to Therapy

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and say, hey, I'm experiencing
these symptoms, you might have

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an idea of what it is.
But when you go to the

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diagnostic criteria in therapy,
it's a lot more than just a list

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of symptoms.
It's how they affect you

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day-to-day, how they affected
you in the past, how they

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affected you and all these
different ways.

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So don't self-diagnose based on
Google or Tick Tock do a lot of

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research and then talk to a
professional.

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I want to go back and address
the fact that you were young and

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you knew that there was
something happening inside and

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it is hard when you're young to
articulate or even for Parents

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and and I know a lot of parents
beat themselves up by being a

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parent, myself of a disabled
child.

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There is a lot of my should have
seen this, or what's going on,

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or is it my fault?
And there's a lot of that, that

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happens within families.
What you're doing.

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Now, number one.
It's extremely Brave.

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So, thank you for sharing your
story with so many people

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because it will help to
normalize.

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The fact that there is no such
thing as normal, everybody has

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their thing and part of that
makes us our own personalities

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part of that is true, you know.
Weakness.

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Sometimes, when it gets to a
place where it is starting to

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impact your everyday life and it
is becoming somewhat

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debilitating or at you, feel
that it's really not

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contributing to your Wellness.
It is great to go get the help

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of somebody else that might be
able to shed some light on the

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situation and may be able to
provide some tips or Tools.

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In some case medicine, in order
to make you more comfortable, to

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make you happier to help you get
through the day.

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And so there is nothing wrong.
Wrong with any of that.

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And frankly, I hear more and
more about people who have ADHD

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and OCD and my opinion has
ultimately become.

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That is awesome because this
world is boring and your mind

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and your energy is going way too
fast for this world.

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Sometimes I think that the world
and Society is stuck in a

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pattern and younger kids kids
with autism Asperger's OCTA

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teaching.
I almost say it.

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You as these evolved angels that
have come down to earth to teach

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us lessons about how more
tolerance, how to coexist, how

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not to be mean to each other.
And so, yeah, there's going to

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be this friction and this
tension is we're getting along

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and we're figuring things out.
And the interesting thing is the

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power of a label, sometimes.
It's helpful to say, oh my gosh,

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now I get it now, I, you know, I
recognize that.

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I have OCD or I recognize that I
have ADHD, but sometimes it can

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also be Confining like you said,
it's like they're using it as an

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excuse to be me.
Yeah, sorry or perhaps they're

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using it as an option to not
participate or to not make

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friends or to lash out.
I think that the idea of being

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able to label, it is on.
Now.

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I know what to do with it.
I would love for people to think

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that life and the world.
It's an abundance of wellness.

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It's really like, everything is
pure positive energy and a lot

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of those intrusive thoughts are
working.

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Against you in your wellness and
you recognize that you were

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like, this isn't right.
This isn't going to lead me to a

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life of longevity and
prosperity.

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I need to ultimately be okay
with telling somebody about it.

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And first, you were afraid to
tell your therapist, but you

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told her now you're telling the
world.

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And so, it's kind of we're here,
taking these steps of Bravery,

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these little bites of bravery,
and these little movements of

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Courage, which I do believe puts
you in a place where you are

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going to be an inspiration to so
many, so, thank you for that.

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Thank you.
Let's move on.

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So, did you have any role models
growing up or did you have any

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now?
Yeah, so growing up.

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I definitely looked up to my
grandma because she sews she

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actually sold like all my mom's
clothes and my mom was growing

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up.
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I guess she tried to teach me
how to sew but she would kind of

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take over but she was always
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She had like three closets full
of clothes and then like all

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this other stuff in storage and
she had all this jewelry.

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So I remember like me and my
cousins were just like go to

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House and look through all her
clothes was a time.

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I would sketch out what I wanted
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I always looked up to her, and
I, honestly, I looked up to both

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of my parents to my family.
We've always been very into

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Arts.
We would go to like art museums

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and both my parents have always
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Just looking up to them.
That sort of helped me become a

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very artistic person to and they
always just encouraged me, you

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know, you can do anything, you
put your mind to, you might not

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be perfect at first, but it
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They've always been super
encouraging even if They like to

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share about it in the beginning.
I remember they were like a

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little bit unsure about social
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Now, they love it.
I've always appreciated that

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some of my current Role Models.
I definitely still look up to my

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parents and my grandma.
Actually, my best friend is a

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role model for me as well.
I met her through Tick-Tock and

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she is 25 and my her when I was
17 and she was 24 and we just

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bonded on this whole other level
of, we're like age wasn't even a

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thing.
Then it was honestly really cool

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to talk to somebody who is older
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How do you say baby?
I love you.

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How about makeup artists?
Are there any makeup artist that

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you would consider Role Models
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Oh my God.
So I love makeup by Ruthie.

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I'm Tick-Tock.
She is so talented.

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I love Abby, Roberts and her
sister Charlotte, but they're

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both so talented.
Honestly, there's so many.

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Let's talk about the makeup.
Look that you've created on Tick

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Tock, because, I mean, you've
been pretty original and you've

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used that as an outlet for your
OCD, depression anxiety, and How

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that makes you feel and then you
interpret that into a look.

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So what gave you the idea to use
makeup to bring awareness to

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these conditions?
I started created my job during

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quarantine.
So I was kind of just doing all

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sorts of looks.
I remember I saw people doing

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portfolios for their art or
school and they were actually

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posting them on Tick Tock and
they would chill drawings

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inspired by mental illnesses or
paintings.

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And I just saw people posting
stuff like that and I was just

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wondering I was like, has anyone
done it with Cup, so I looked it

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up and nobody really had, so I
was like, oh, this is a really

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good original idea.
I really want to try it.

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So I decided to try it with my
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It is something I thought about
for a long time because I didn't

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want to offend anybody.
I didn't want to make it seem

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like I was glamorizing mental
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I wanted it to bring awareness,
and also just to show visually

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how some of these conditions
affect me because I'm personally

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a really visual Learners who
sometimes if I It's like read a

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list of symptoms of Google.
I really don't understand it.

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So I think seeing it, it's
always helpful for me.

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So I hope that that would be the
case for others to give it a

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shot.
I think the first one I did was

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depression, the first video.
I honestly did not do very well.

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But I just wanted to keep going
because it was fun and then

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eventually picked up and after I
did my own conditions, I started

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with other ones.
I started the series actually

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before I was diagnosed with
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It was funny.
I got diagnosed like a week

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after I posted the video it got
a lot of positive attention and

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For the conditions, I don't
have, I did a lot of research

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and then sometimes I would ask
friends, who had them how to

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represent them in a way that
wasn't stereotypical or

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offensive and just portrayed the
symptoms accurately and they all

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told me I did really well.
I did receive some backlash.

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There were people being like,
you're romanticizing mental

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illness, and I did make a video
clarifying that I wasn't and

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people were a lot more
understanding, but there's gonna

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be haters everywhere.
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I didn't take it personally
because I knew that that wasn't

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my intention.
I honestly feel like I was

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getting those comments just
because it was makeup and might

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think of makeup and beauty and
that kind of stuff.

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And I never saw any of those
comments on just a painting

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inspired by OCD, but if it's all
makeup, look inspired by OCD.

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Oh, you're a romanticizing,
which wasn't the case, but I

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didn't really care.
I kind of just brushed it off.

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Well, that's good too.
Because I was going to say that

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to your points.
A lot of people will have

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opinions and those opinions are
how they feel and what they're

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going through.
It has really nothing to do with

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you.
They're just reacting to

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Something that has triggering
something inside themselves.

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And so it's better.
If you are able to just

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understand that delineation and
say you know what?

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I am going to express my art
because this is a part of me,

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irregardless.
Some people are going to love

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it.
Some people are going to hate

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it.
But all in all, I'm going to be

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as me as I can be and put forth.
What I believe is my creativity

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and my art C'est La Vie.
Now, you mentioned on an

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Instagram post that you've never
seen mental health disorders,

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expressed through makeup.
So do you think that these

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conditions could be better
represented in the beauty

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industry.
I definitely think so.

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Mental illnesses are invisible.
It can be kind of difficult to

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represent it.
It's different than using

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disabled models models who use
Mobility AIDS, or who are in

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wheelchairs, obviously, that's
wonderful representation, but

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it's very different for mental
illness.

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So the way you need to
represent, if you got to talk

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about it and that can be really
scary.

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It would have been very helpful
for me to see if any of the

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YouTubers.
I was watching.

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Talk about experiencing anxiety.
ID or even just like social

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anxiety that I was struggling
with at the time I think that

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would have been really
encouraging to me to just be

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like, I'm not alone.
So it's my goal with my makeup

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is to help people feel like
they're not alone and their

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struggles, especially growing
up, especially in my early

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teens.
I looked up to influencers and

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stuff and it did end up being a
little toxic for me because of

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the beauty standard, that was
promoted.

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But a lot of times I would look
up to them just about the stuff

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they did in their lives.
I wanted to be like them, but it

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would have been really Ali cool.
If I saw some more, the real

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side of them and not the perfect
side of them, they put on social

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media.
So I definitely think that there

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needs to be better
representation and mental

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health.
Just needs to be talked about

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more openly in the beauty
industry and everywhere else.

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The sir profound words and those
are really good suggestions for

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the beauty industry.
Tell me about your creative

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process.
So if you know that you want to

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do something a look about
depression or what have you do,

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you sketch something out.
What do you start with and how

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do you create a look on rare?
Asians a look, we'll just pop

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into my head, and I'm like, I
gotta go do this, but most the

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time I usually have to think
about it for a few days.

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I don't really sketch it out.
I actually used to, but then I

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like on myself worrying about
making sketch, perfect.

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So I was like, yeah, whatever.
I'm not going to sketch.

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It looks as though by mental
illness, I thought.

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Alright.
How does this make me feel ocg.

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The look was like a labyrinth on
my face and it was kind of like

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closing in on me.
So I was kind of just think

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about my OCD and how does it
make me feel?

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And sometimes my compulsions
make it feel like they just like

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this maze that I'm stuck.
Uh kin and it's like impossible

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to find a way out.
That's why I came up with

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Labyrinth with ADHD.
It was just like a very colorful

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but chaotic looks even though I
wasn't formally diagnosed.

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I definitely have my suspicions.
So I was like, all right.

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I had arrived feel in my brain
and I feel like, I'm very

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creative person.
And there's a lot of good.

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There's a lot of good stuff
going on in my head, but it can

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just be very chaotic at times.
I tried to express that through

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makeup.
I think one of the things that

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was very hard for me is just
sitting down and doing a look.

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If I don't know what I'm doing.
I think that's what I end up.

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Not liking it so I need to Let
it sit for a few days and think

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about it and then I usually have
a pretty good idea.

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Do you have any words of wisdom
for individuals?

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Having a hard time coming to
terms with their own mental

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health?
I do, I want to say that I

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understand.
It has been very hard for me to

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accept that.
I have these conditions and that

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I am different from others, but
especially just growing up in a

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world where everyone needs to be
the same especially like in

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middle school and high school.
It's like, everyone's got to

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conform and be the same address.
The same and talk with same and

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act the same.
So it is very hard to be

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different.
Even if you just feel different

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and you're not showing it on the
outside and I definitely

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struggled with that for a long
time.

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Actually, when I started going
to therapy, it helps me a lot.

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So even though that first step
can be so scary.

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It can be so helpful.
I learn to love myself and

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accept myself for the person.
I was despite my struggles

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because having a mental
disorder, doesn't make you

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laugh.
Of a person even if it affects

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you a lot.
I know like my mental disorder

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is don't Define me and like
yeah, that's true.

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But also for me they kind of do
it does make up a lot of my

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personality.
I'm neurodivergent.

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I was literally born with ADHD.
So it does make up a lot of my

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personality, but that doesn't
mean it makes me any less of a

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person.
It's given me so many positive

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traits as well.
My brain is physically wired

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differently.
It's not a condition like

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depression or anxiety.
That's like an added thing, but

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it's like your brain.
Works with like a set of

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instructions.
I have a completely different

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set of instructions, and that
can bring a lot of good cheer.

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I think it's definitely
contributed to a lot of my, my

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creativity.
It just my ability to do so many

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things at once and not totally
lose my mind.

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So there's a lot of positive to
it too.

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I know it's hard to accept any
any condition when you're first

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getting diagnosed, especially
one that's been so stigmatized

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over the years, but honestly,
what I think to myself is that I

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can contribute to Breaking the
stigma.

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And to me, I view that as taking
my power back and showing people

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a hey, a mental disorder is just
like a physical disorder just

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like you would, you know, get
treatment, if you had cancer.

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Like, that's the same as going
to therapy and there's nothing

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shameful about it.
So that's the advice.

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I would give very well.
Said, there is absolutely

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nothing wrong with thinking
differently.

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You're just thinking differently
in a different way than other

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people do.
And I actually think it is a

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gift in many respects, because
it does lend itself to To that

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creativity, and that ability to
see things from a different

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perspective than with a normal
society would think, I'm just

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curious what it was like with
maybe faculty or teachers at

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school, where they let in on
your diagnosis or is that

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something that you don't
necessarily need to share with

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your school?
Now, my teachers are aware of my

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condition.
So they've told me that if I

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ever need accommodations just to
let them know if we had a

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presentation they would let me
go first so I could get that out

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of the way or else I'd be having
a panic attack for the whole

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class.
Being on social media can be

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extremely difficult, but you
always seem so upbeat in your

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Tick, Tock videos.
How do you stay?

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So positive?
Do you do any routines or

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mindset practices that keep you
optimistic?

453
00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:45,900
Personally, for me?
I feel like social media has

454
00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:48,800
brought me both harm and good.
I think I do tend to compare

455
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,900
myself to other girls.
One of the things that's helped

456
00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:54,600
me.
Love myself and accept the way I

457
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,100
look is doing creative makeup
because then I see.

458
00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,800
My face is like a canvas.
Send me as the artist.

459
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,000
I can paint anything on there.
So if I have flowers or stars

460
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,300
like painted on my face, I'm not
thinking oh, I don't like the

461
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:09,400
way my nose looks.
I'm thinking this looks really

462
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,500
cool creative makeup has
definitely helped me and just

463
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,100
trying to practice self-love
accepting that.

464
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:19,100
I'm going to have some
insecurities and that's okay

465
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,500
self.
Love doesn't mean getting rid of

466
00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,900
all your insecurities.
It's okay to be insecure about

467
00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,900
things.
I tried to focus on loving

468
00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:30,900
myself, as a whole person.
Both Physically and mentally,

469
00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,200
but even just thinking about
physical features.

470
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Yeah, there are some features
that I have that I don't like

471
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,500
but when I look at my whole face
instead of seeing all the

472
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,600
features, I don't like I try to
see a person and that's

473
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,600
definitely helped me.
I think also I try to stay

474
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,100
positive in my tick-tocks.
I was going to make positive

475
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,100
content.
I do really love making content

476
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:52,700
and I love social media.
So even if I'm having a bad day,

477
00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,900
like when I started doing makeup
and filming it's just a very

478
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,000
different mindset.
I just get into this whole new

479
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,400
mindset where I'm like, okay,
I'm ready to do my Up in film

480
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,600
and make content.
And I don't necessarily feel

481
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,100
like I'm baking and, you know,
putting on a smile that's not

482
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,200
real.
I think, just once I get into

483
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000
that mindset, that I'm really
happy to be doing what I'm

484
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,800
doing.
And I can distract myself from

485
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,100
whatever else is bothering me
for this couple hours.

486
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:18,900
I was reading a book recently
where it was talking about our

487
00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,600
tendency to compare ourselves to
other people.

488
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800
It's human nature.
Why do we do it?

489
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,200
We feel miserable.
We're never going to be happy if

490
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,300
we continue to compare ourselves
to each other and one of the

491
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:30,600
tips.
That I thought was quite

492
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,800
fascinating was if you get to a
place where you're comparing

493
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800
yourself to somebody else and
you're feeling a little bit down

494
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,000
on yourself.
Remember what your body can do.

495
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,700
Remember its functionality,
rather than thinking, just about

496
00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:46,800
the external and what you look
like, think about.

497
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,900
Thank you body for the ability
to run.

498
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:51,400
Thank you body for the ability
to create this Art.

499
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Thank you so much body for the
ability to grow this hair that I

500
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,400
have.
Thank you.

501
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,500
But, you know, and the thinking
of all the things that you're

502
00:23:57,508 --> 00:24:01,400
grateful that your body can do.
That's gifting for you helps you

503
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,400
to remember all of the magic
that you have rather than

504
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,200
thinking like I'm here and
somebody else.

505
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,100
And that has really helped me
actually, especially when I

506
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:16,600
started doing point and dance.
I'm like, this is so cool.

507
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,900
I'm balancing all my weight on
my toes.

508
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,800
That's amazing.
Yeah, I definitely 100% agree

509
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,800
with you on that.
Let's talk about your clothes.

510
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,100
We noticed you have a clothing
brand, Elizabeth, Sydney designs

511
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:32,300
where your and making custom
orders on Etsy.

512
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,800
What prompted you to begin
making clothing?

513
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,000
This is kind of a story in
itself.

514
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
So it was my junior year of high
school.

515
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,800
I was still on Zoom because it
covid.

516
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,800
I was basically only doing
social media.

517
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,900
I didn't really have any other
Hobbies at that point and I was

518
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,500
getting a little bored.
Not gonna lie.

519
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:52,200
I learned a lot about fast
fashion and about how mostly

520
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,000
every Big Brand use, child
labor, and how on the way these

521
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,500
clothes are made in very bad for
the environment.

522
00:24:58,508 --> 00:25:03,700
I got really Drifting and that
was awesome, but I still

523
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,600
couldn't find like everything I
wanted because drifting was kind

524
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,100
of a hit or miss.
So I decided to start sewing.

525
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
First thing I made it was a
corset which is kind of a hard

526
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,700
first project.
I literally just had like this

527
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:18,800
white scrap Fabric and I made a
corset and then I painted it and

528
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,600
it was so pretty.
I think it was a pretty

529
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,400
successful first project by may
I was making my prom dress.

530
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,400
I just wanted to prove to myself
that I can do it and now it

531
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200
looks like you're wearing one of
your pieces as Well, can you

532
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,300
tell us what that is?
Yes.

533
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,300
So this is a corset in the
front.

534
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:40,100
I used grommets to do the laces.
And now I have this gold cord as

535
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:43,800
the laces and I made it out of
this green brocade with these

536
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,000
blue and pink flowers.
And then in the back, I also put

537
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,300
a zipper so it can be easier to
take off and on instead of

538
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:54,400
having to replace it.
Well, you've created this

539
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:58,100
vintage Vibe, but it's almost
like an updated modern youthful

540
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,300
type of a vintage approach.
Then pairing it with your bright

541
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:04,700
hot pink earrings as well.
Gives it definitely a unique

542
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:06,700
look.
Yeah, actually, the earrings

543
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,800
want to give a little shout-out.
I actually got these from these

544
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,500
super sweet old ladies, that
have nursing home and then, last

545
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,400
but not least, you've got
something there on your

546
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,700
mannequin behind, you know,
yeah.

547
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:20,200
So this one, I actually made it
for school.

548
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,200
It was for a club that I'm in
called FCCLA and you could

549
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:27,500
compete like with a bunch of
different things for it.

550
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,800
You could do like, baking one of
the Degrees is fashion design.

551
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800
So I was like, oh, yeah, course
I'm doing this.

552
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
So this dress actually, I'll
point this downwards and get

553
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200
little.
Oh my goodness.

554
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,500
Well, I believe is fired by the
Greek goddess Persephone.

555
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,500
So, if you don't know that much
about Greek mythology,

556
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:47,700
basically, she was the goddess
of spring and she married Hades.

557
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,700
Who was the god of the
underworld?

558
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,600
So she became the queen of the
underworld.

559
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,700
So this dress over here is
supposed to symbolize spring,

560
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:06,400
and then the dress underneath.
Wow, that is really inventive.

561
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Congratulations on both of
those.

562
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,100
How long does that take you to
do something like that?

563
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,100
This one took me months.
I did take breaks in between

564
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:17,600
though, but it took me quite a
while and then I competed with

565
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,500
this one.
I model it myself and I did the

566
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200
local competition Regional.
So, that's what we call it went

567
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,900
to Regionals here, and then I
made it to state.

568
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:29,400
So I went to State and
Springfield and that was

569
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,900
Awesome.
I won a gold medal.

570
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,300
I wasn't the overall winner in
my category, but I'm still

571
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:37,200
pretty proud of myself.
I still think it was awesome.

572
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,900
I did a pretty good job and it
was a great experience.

573
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,500
I never really thought I'd have
the opportunity to do something

574
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,000
like this in high school.
I thought these opportunities

575
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,700
would come in college.
So I was super happy.

576
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,300
This is a duct tape skirt.
I made when I was 8, look at

577
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:54,100
that.
That is an event.

578
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,600
That doesn't even look like duct
tape.

579
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:01,100
Was like a Chevron.
Sense, and you said that that

580
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,900
was inspired by one of the
challenges on Project Runway

581
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,700
Project Runway.
And then this year's prom dress.

582
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,600
Okay.
I do need to turn off the lights

583
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,500
for this because this one, this
one's pretty cool.

584
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,900
This one is inspired by one of
them day.

585
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:21,000
Has dresses and the mat bal-27
Ellensburg.

586
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,400
Oh, no, I remember that comes
up, but it Loot and lost its

587
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,500
charge.
Now like the top lost its charge

588
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,100
the top lights up.
To.

589
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,900
Oh my goodness.
For those of you who are just

590
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:37,200
listening to this podcast, this
dress that has been created has

591
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:42,300
these beautiful sparkly LEDs.
Underneath the, I don't know if

592
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:47,100
it's crinoline or the, the upper
Fabric and so you can see the

593
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:51,600
patterning of the lace over top
of it and it just looks like a

594
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200
star shower.
It's just so beautiful.

595
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:56,400
Yeah.
Thank you.

596
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,600
I definitely need to plug that
in because Right outfit.

597
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,300
Yeah, it's actually the fabric
that has these fiber optics in

598
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:10,400
it, and it's so hard to so, but
I pulled it off.

599
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,400
It was definitely a challenge.
I did have to start over, which

600
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,400
was not good.
But I think every time I do a

601
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,500
project, I always push myself,
way harder, then, and I should,

602
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,200
but I'm always happy with the
results.

603
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,500
So, I totally think it's worth
it even though it can sometimes

604
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,900
be super stressful.
Well, creativity is a fun thing

605
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,500
because the sky is the limit
here.

606
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,800
It's really all about your
imagination.

607
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,700
So what are your plans for
future?

608
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:41,100
And you have goals to continue
and makeup Artistry or fashion

609
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,400
or both?
I do.

610
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,300
So I plan on attending a
community college by me for my

611
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:51,200
first semester, and then maybe
switching over to the Art

612
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Institute or somewhere in the
city.

613
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,200
I live in Chicago.
I do really want to study

614
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,000
abroad.
London and Paris would be My

615
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,500
dream, I do plan on majoring, in
fashion design.

616
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,900
I would love to work for any big
name brands and then hopefully

617
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:12,200
have my own independent brand.
I'll be working and selling my

618
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,300
own clothes throughout all of
it, but hopefully eventually

619
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:18,200
I'll be able to support myself
just with my own brand.

620
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800
I would love to go to New York
Fashion Week or any fashion.

621
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,600
You make really that's like a
dream or just to design for a

622
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,700
celebrity at the Met Paul and I
definitely plan on continuing.

623
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Continuing with makeup and
social media as well because I

624
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000
love it.
And I know that was the plan all

625
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000
along.
That was the plan.

626
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,400
Like the since I started social
media.

627
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,100
I was like, I want to do this
for as long as possible because

628
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:44,000
it's so much fun.
And really I feel like a lot of

629
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
designer Brands, especially a
lot of the bigger ones.

630
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400
It's just kind of a label but
you don't really know the person

631
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,600
designing for that brand.
So I want my customers to know

632
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,700
me and know who I am and what I
stand for.

633
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,600
I want my rent, put a lot of
emphasis on it.

634
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,600
The severity and, you know, show
hissing models with different

635
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,600
body types and disabled models
and models like me to talk about

636
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,200
their mental health and stuff.
So I definitely want to

637
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,200
represent all sorts of women in
my brand because when we were

638
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,500
little, we look up to these
sorts of people.

639
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:21,200
So I want people to see people
like them being represented.

640
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,500
Now, I think I saw somewhere
where you refer to yourself as a

641
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,600
spoonie, am I correct?
Yeah.

642
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,500
Yeah, I did.
Tick-Tock, actually, that's how

643
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,500
I find my fellow students.
Damn.

644
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:35,500
I'm sure that a lot of people
don't know what a spoony is, but

645
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:38,900
it was very endearing to me when
I saw that because I refer to my

646
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,800
son as a spoonie.
He has a mitochondrial disorder,

647
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,900
which renders him as having a
lack of energy.

648
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,800
He had his body doesn't produce
as much energy as others.

649
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,600
And so, it causes him to be
chronically tired throughout the

650
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800
day.
And so, for those of you who

651
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,700
don't know what a spoony is.
It was really interesting

652
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,200
because I think that the term
was derived from A couple of

653
00:31:59,208 --> 00:32:01,000
girlfriends that were sitting in
a diner.

654
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,100
And one of the girlfriends
wanted to know.

655
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,700
Well, what is it like to have
Lupus?

656
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:07,200
Because the the other girl had
lupus and she was pretty much

657
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,100
saying well, you know, go to
doctors.

658
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:12,000
I have therapist.
I do this and I do that but the

659
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,200
other girls like no.
No, what is it?

660
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,300
Really?
Like, what do you feel like?

661
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,100
And so she grabs a bunch of
spoons?

662
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,200
And she said, Okay list, all of
the tasks that you have to do

663
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,500
during the day.
It's like, okay.

664
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,200
Well, I have to get up and wash
my face.

665
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:24,600
Okay.
She took away a spoon.

666
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:27,500
Oh, I have to get dressed.
Okay, that's another spoon.

667
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:29,900
Okay, I have to To make myself
something to eat.

668
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,500
That's another spoon.
And So eventually the spoons run

669
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,200
out and so it's like you don't
have enough energy to do the

670
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,800
normal tasks that it takes to do
every single day.

671
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,500
And so that's where the term
spoonie came from.

672
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:44,100
And so everybody who has a lack
of energy or understands that

673
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,400
doing normal tasks during any
given day, can be really

674
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,100
exhausting.
That's what the spooning

675
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:54,000
Community is all about.
That was perfectly explained,

676
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,500
way better than I could have
explained it now.

677
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,700
Is there any advice that you
give to Individuals, who might

678
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:03,400
be hesitant to make a leap into
their own business, or social

679
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,700
media.
Um, honestly just do it.

680
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,600
It can be really scary.
Honestly.

681
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,100
My advice is just go for it.
Growing up.

682
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:14,500
There were always just things
that I really wanted to do and

683
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,900
this is really crunchy.
But so I'm a writer.

684
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:19,300
I loved her II.
Just right?

685
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,200
For falling though.
I don't really plan on doing

686
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,800
anything with that and I just
remember like my main character

687
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,000
in my story, even though it was
a fantasy story and she was off

688
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,600
like fighting Monsters and
stuff.

689
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,300
She was really cool.
And she was, you know,

690
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:35,200
social-media influencer and a
fashion designer and a makeup

691
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,000
artist.
I just Mariah and being like,

692
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:40,200
I'm just basically writing the
life that I want for myself.

693
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,300
And I was just a little scared
to make that first move on Tick

694
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,700
Tock.
It did happen a little bit by

695
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,600
accident.
I remember, I was in English

696
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,400
class.
I got an F on a test and I was a

697
00:33:51,408 --> 00:33:53,800
little salty about it.
So I made basically a Tick-Tock

698
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,000
just making like, a really bad
joke about school and that one

699
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,700
blew up and I had like 20.
Hours at the time.

700
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,600
And I got to 1,000, which wasn't
that much, but I think it just

701
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,500
kind of motivated me to keep
posting.

702
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,600
And then quarantine happen.
And over quarantine way more

703
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,699
people were online.
So I saw that as my opportunity.

704
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:12,900
I was like, all right.
This is my time to grow by

705
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,600
summer.
I was at 100K and I'm so happy.

706
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,699
I went for it.
Even though I was scared of what

707
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,600
people I knew in real life would
think seeing my videos.

708
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000
I thought they were just think I
was weird, but I'm so happy.

709
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,400
I went for it because it's
really helped me gain a lot of

710
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,300
confidence.
So honestly anything you want to

711
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,500
do.
Do even though it can be scary

712
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,199
and it can be hard to just put
yourself out there or do

713
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,199
something that's like different
than the norm.

714
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,900
Just do it.
If it's something that you truly

715
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,300
love, you'll be happy and if you
realize that you don't like it,

716
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,400
you can always just stop and
that's okay, too.

717
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,400
What is your definition of
beauty?

718
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Oh, wow.
This is a complicated one.

719
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:54,199
My definition of beauty.
I would say it's not just

720
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,699
physical appearance.
Obviously.

721
00:34:55,699 --> 00:35:00,000
I think it's the person you are.
Inside and out.

722
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,900
I think, definitely, like your
mental attitude, can reflect and

723
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:08,200
your physical appearance.
If you're confident, then you're

724
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,100
going to look more confident.
And I think you're prettier than

725
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,200
like, I think the people who I
think are very pretty are people

726
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,400
who are really confident as
well, and who seemed comfortable

727
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,600
with themselves, even if they
have imperfections.

728
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,400
So yeah, I'd say definitely
beauty comes from the inside out

729
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,600
and so my definition of beauty
would be like, yeah, how your

730
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,500
qualities?
On the inside manifest.

731
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,400
On the outside.
Well, Elizabeth.

732
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,100
It was such a pleasure to talk
with you today.

733
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,200
I want everybody to go on to
tick tock.

734
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,900
Follow Elizabeth Sidney.
Her name is Elizabeth mavros,

735
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,400
and you'll be seeing much more
of her in the future.