Aug. 2, 2022
Episode 16: Joe Templin – I Died And I Have ADHD, So I Don’t Waste A Minute
Meet Joe Templin! Joe is the ultimate human Swiss Army Knife…he’s a startup founder, author, physicist, financial planner, autodidactic polymath, ultramarathoner, special needs father of boys with autism, and martial artist. Diagnosed with severe asthma and ADHD, Joe actually flatlined at 10 years old and was rescusitated back to life. Since then, he has harnessed his energetic superpowers to helping others reach their full potential. Enjoy the listen!
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Transcript
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Hello, beautiful humans.
Welcome to role models.
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Juicy conversations with
beautiful humans.
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I'm Jennifer Norman founder of
the human Beauty movement and
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your host, my guest today is
Joe, templin, Joe is a human
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Kaizen expert and author.
He has more degrees than a
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thermometer and is an
ultra-marathoner, and A pendant
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geek, a special-needs single
dad, and a martial artist.
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Basically a human Swiss army
knife.
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His book everyday Excellence was
the Kindle number one, new
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release in professional
development.
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I'm so happy to introduce him to
you.
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So welcome, Joe, Jennifer glad
to be here, you know, I don't
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know why I am on a podcast about
beautiful humans because I got
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the face made for radio.
That is so not true, of course
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we always say beauty.
Is from within, but I think
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everybody is beautiful and of
the more unique the better.
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That's what I say.
I think that there's always
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something really magical about
different faces.
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So I think that's amusing, but
at any rate, please share
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something about yourself, share
anything about yourself that you
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think that we would like to know
what's your background?
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And how did you become that?
Beautiful human that you are
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today.
So I had to awesome parents.
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Encouraged education, my mom,
the nun who I tell jokes about.
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Yes, my mom was a nun and then
Had six kids.
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So that's an entirely different,
interesting story and my dad was
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the first person in his family.
To go, to college was Army ROTC
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got commission and then three
months later was the Bay of
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Pigs.
So, here we go.
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Thinking that the world's going
to end, and that's how he
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started his military career.
He got out during Vietnam and
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found his consulting firm.
So, here I have these two very
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strong influences, that always
actually encouraged us to
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respect.
Authority.
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But not blatantly accept it and
to always desire to learn and
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better ourselves.
And so that is the foundation
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from which my entire life
literally is built off of.
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Yeah, you pretty much had a life
filled with discipline and
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Order, didn't you?
It was discipline order but I
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needed it because I'm ADHD and
back in the 70s.
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We had diagnosed people that we
just said that they were high
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energy but that gave me the
overall structure to be able to
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explore within and be able to
pursue what interested me.
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So whether it was physics,
psychology poetry philosophy,
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martial arts music, my parents
always encouraged me to explore
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and learn everything that I
could and it is I think that
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combination of having
reinforcement and discipline.
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But also Freedom, that Creates a
dichotomy that allows for
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growth.
Yeah.
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And you said that you had to
awesome parents.
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And so that's wonderful.
That it seems like you had such
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a good relationship with them
and that they were very
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encouraging of you pursuing.
All of these different
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interests.
Is that right?
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Yes.
I mean my mom bought us bugs
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when we were kids.
My mom was the youngest seven.
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Kids, she grew up on a farm.
So, she also taught us to shoot.
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She taught me how to hotwire a
car.
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She taught me how to distill
alcohol.
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Very handy.
As a nun to be able to have her
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car into still alcohol.
Yeah, no.
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So these are just like some of
these random facts and tools
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that in other parts of my life
later on, when I was in college,
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or when I was mental officer
came into play, but it was just
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this insatiable desire to learn.
I think I was like eight years
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old but I told my mom, I wanted
to learn everything there was to
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learn, and she's told me, well,
better get to work and the
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encyclopedias over there.
She also Something that
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infuriated me when I was a kid,
if I couldn't spell something or
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know what, then she told me go,
look it up.
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I'm like, if I could spell it, I
would be able to look it up, so
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she didn't like that.
But so did back then exactly.
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And so, the modern equivalent of
that is GTS, Google that stuff.
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So that's why I tell my kids all
the time, but no thing, my mom
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taught me when I was reading
early on, was always have index
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cards because if you don't know
what something means, you write
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it down and then you can go look
it up.
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Later, or you can take notes and
so that was something that in
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college my fraternity encouraged
and even to this day, I always
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have either my phone on me and
take notes or if I'm actually
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wearing suits.
Like today I can have index
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cards in the pocket but this is
literally how I run the
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complexity of my life is just
writing down the four or five.
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Most important things that I
need to do for the day, cross
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them off, as I get through them.
And then I David Letterman and
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throw in the garbage.
I already threw Today.
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So hopefully your third in the
recycling.
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Yeah.
Okay.
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We'll just say that you do
fantastic.
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So that is amazing that, you
know, it seems like you were
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just curious.
You had all of this curiosity
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and you were willing to go
through all of the details and
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the iterations in the
permutations to find out
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everything that you wanted to
know about any subject at all.
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And you know, this is one thing
that I encourage people are in
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high school.
Land College just afterwards is
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now's the time to figure out who
you are college is the greatest,
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you know, Smorgasbord of all
time, I mean you can try 500
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different types of tacos.
You can try a half dozen
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different martial arts, you can
taste every food that exists on
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the planet.
You can study different
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philosophies.
You can audit classes that are
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completely outside your major
that might be of interest and so
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you can learn and develop and an
example that I use of why this
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is important.
Was there was this one guy who
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actually dropped out of college,
but he hung around a took all
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the like, what a 10 different
classes that interest them, and
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he went and took a calligraphy
class that guy was Steve Jobs
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and because of that class, we
end up having all the cool fonts
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on the Macintosh and eventually
all the other computer system.
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So as Steve Jobs said you can't
connect the dots looking
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forward.
It's only looking back that you
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can make some sort of orry and
figure it out.
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So that is one of the things
that I encourage your listeners.
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Is I have teenage boys as you
mentioned.
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And so the analogy I use is
everything in Life's a giant
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video.
We have this massive Quest that
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we're on.
We all want to get to the
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castle, Beat the Boss, you know
save the princess, get the
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treasure and all that and to do
that though, it's not
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necessarily a linear path.
You have to take all these side
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quests.
The side quest might be going
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into the tavern.
In talking to weird old men
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which is typically me, you know,
to get some information.
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It might be going into the end
and just resting that's taking a
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couple of days of vacation to
recharge your body.
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It might be.
You need to get some more gold.
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So you take a side gig or you
work for a company for a few
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years to get resources and
relationships that are going to
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come into play.
When you go back to your main
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quest, whatever that is so early
on your 20s and 30s is figuring
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out what that question really
is.
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Starting to build the mindset
and skill sets to ultimately
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achieve it.
Yeah for sure I love that
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analogy and I often have used
that myself is that, you know,
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life is meant to be fun.
So think of it as a game and so
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thinking of it as a video game
is highly appropriate,
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especially in this day and age,
where people are wondering if
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we're living in The Matrix or
not.
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Anyway, if we were living in The
Matrix, I want plug on it and be
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able to go I know Kung Fu take
the blue pill I don't want to
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know.
Well, tell us then because, you
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know, you got multiple degrees
as you had mentioned.
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Can you share some of the things
that you had pursued as far as
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your education and whatnot and
before you went into the
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military?
So I actually never went into
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the military because I was early
as Mac as a kid.
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In fact, for my asthma is
legally dead at 10:00.
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I got better obviously in the
early 90s, there was no
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exemption for asthma at that
point.
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Those came later on.
So, even though I was competing
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for a world championship in
Taekwondo, I still was not
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allowed to enter the military.
So I worked for DARPA.
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I did research in a lab or
cousin Intel officer.
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I taught individuals in the
military, so I taught
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self-defense to them, even
though I technically wasn't
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allowed to be one of them, I
taught them.
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So this is one way as Muhammad.
Ali says, service is the rent
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that you pay for your room here
on Earth.
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This is one of the ways that I
was able to serve and help.
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Individuals, which is something
that I inherited from my parents
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lll.
Always, as my mom always said,
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if you're having a bad day, go
help somebody else out.
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Yeah.
And just so that's one of the
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things that I did.
But I started college at 13,
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because my parents said Paul was
too young to start college and
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some of my friends from that
point are still some of my
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closest friends on the earth.
Some of these people are really,
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really smart and so I was at
Hopkins and then I end up going
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to Rensselaer Polytechnic, RPI,
oldest engineering school in the
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English-speaking World majored
in I'd physics and
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Communications and minored in
astronomy and literature and
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whole bunch of other things.
And I was writing that entire
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time.
So writing has been component of
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who I am for 35 plus years.
Same way that martial arts has
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been a component of who I am for
that long finish that up
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started, my MBA working on my
degree, in engineering physics,
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fish, all that stuff up.
Went into the professional world
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doing financial planning.
I passed the cfp exam and At
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this point, written thousands of
review, questions for it, got
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multiple degrees and finance
like my chart advisor of
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philanthropy, chartered
Financial Consultant and to
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picking up my masters in
executive counseling.
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And really the four Ps, are
there to help explain the world.
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In my opinion, four peas are
physics.
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Philosophy, psychology and
poetry and those four different
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mindsets essentially.
Just to try and answer the same
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set of questions but from
completely different
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perspectives.
And so, one of the things that I
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do actually is I shift between
different mindsets on a regular
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basis and try and utilize, at
least multiple of them every
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single day, because if you can
actually look at a situation
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from two different perspectives,
simultaneously, you generally
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get a better picture of what's
going on.
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Same way that we have two eyes
to give us depth perception.
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Can you give an example?
Advil of maybe a problem that
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you would tackle from one way
from maybe a Philosophers
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perspective versus a physics
perspective.
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So for example, if I'm working
with a business owner and they
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are trying to do something with
their business, maybe they're
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trying to land a new client,
maybe they're trying to get
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funding.
Maybe they're trying to figure
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out what area to move into for a
new product line or something
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like that, we talk.
About it.
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Both from the point of view of
physics which is Hardcore,
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mathematical problem solving
modeling and things like that.
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But then like this actually
happened this morning was
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talking with somebody that
advised.
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I had talked to him from the
philosophy, point of view of, if
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you do X, how are you going to
feel?
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If you do, why, how are you
going to feel which path is the
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path of Integrity for you?
So we looked at it from a pure
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Financial which is more.
Nicole and thus physics point of
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view, but we also explored it
from that philosophy point of
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view, he's like, damn, you
template make me ask tough
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questions.
That's awesome.
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I went to Medical a really good
problem.
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Would have been the art of the
poh is not say everything is the
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old saying, so I would just like
leave the pregnant pause there
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and make him very uncomfortable
as he contemplates it.
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A lot of ways.
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Yeah, but as Robin Williams
said, in Dead Poets Society
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poetry's there to movement, so
there's awful.
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That's not untrue.
Well, it's interesting because I
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agree with you.
I think, you know, looking at a
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problem.
Number one, you can't do it.
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You can't find a solution being
in the mindset of the problem
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and so getting out of that zone
and getting into a different
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Zone, whatever that zone is is
number one, very helpful but
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then also channeling and getting
into these different mindsets
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allows you to Liberty of just
creative exploration in order to
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get two different Avenues and
things that you hadn't
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necessarily or would not have
necessarily.
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Thought of if you would just
thinking vary linearly to your
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points like the physics or the
mathematical roots and people
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rely on that, don't they just
like the physics, the math of
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the middle of the numbers people
get almost pigeon-holed or
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biased in some ways and every
situation is like life or an
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individual them.
All's we're like a diamond,
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there's multiple different
facets.
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And so if we look from different
perspectives, we can see
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different things, different
aspects, different facets and
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increases our understanding.
And in many situations, it can
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improve our appreciation of the
beauty of it.
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Absolutely seeing things from
all different angles and then
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you find something uncovered,
just like I see your beauty and
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you say you have a face for
radio.
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See, you know what, I got a
sense of humor.
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Or so, that's a great thing.
If you can't laugh at yourself,
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you know, you're again.
Yeah.
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So, tell me about this little
aspects of your aspirations, the
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martial, arts, and doing
marathons and things like that.
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How did you get involved with?
Just going for all of these, you
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know, more interesting and
determined types of physical
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activity?
As I say, I'm not naturally
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talented in any way, shape, or
form.
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As I said, I was severely
asthmatic.
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I was legally dead when I was 10
years old.
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So, My starting point in terms
of physical capability is well
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below.
Basically, anybody else's,
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however, one of the things about
dying and coming back is that
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you don't screw around anymore,
you know, as my friends joke I
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burn the candle at both ends and
in the middle of a flamethrower
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and so I use all 86400 seconds
every single day.
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In fact, I tried multitask so I
can squeeze in extra ones
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because it's not like you can
put them aside and drawn.
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Them tomorrow or next week you
have to use them up that
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particular day.
So my martial arts started
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because there was a bunch of
kids on the bus, harassing my
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kid sister so my mom signed my
sister's up for Taekwondo and
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then I started a couple weeks
later and for some reason it
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just fit with me with my ADHD
the hyper-focus that was
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something that for some reason I
could hyper-focus on and being
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Irish I'm sort of thick-headed
it'll always and so growing up
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on the farm.
I had the natural Farm Boy Work
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ethic and this, just a naturally
appealed.
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So, I found ways to multitask.
So like I would literally
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stretch my legs out in the
stretch machine and sit there,
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and do my Latin homework while
watching TV and stuff like that.
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And so I just really got into
it.
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And so, I got to the point where
every single morning I would get
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up, and I would train.
And 35, plus years later every
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single morning, I still get up
and I train every single day, I
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still throw the basic punches
that I learned.
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Decades ago, 100 plus times each
and every morning.
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At this point I've thrown over
10 million punches.
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I don't even need to think about
and I'm still faster and people
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half my age because I refuse to
give in and acknowledge that
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leveling up chronologically.
And so you know I just continue
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to focus on that from there.
I drifted into a playing
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volleyball.
Played Junior Olympic.
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I played in college, I actually
lettered in college and
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something completely different.
I was mascot.
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So yes.
I was a cheerleader on top of
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everything else.
I started running to supplement
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my other sports and I swore to
myself, okay.
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I'm going to do a marathon by
the time I turned 30 year olds
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I'm never going to do one.
I did my first one about month
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beforehand.
Then I did another Marathon
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about a year later I'm like this
socks.
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I hate running.
I'm never going to do another
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Marathon again because it takes
too much sacrifice.
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In terms of the time I'm tired
I'm always hungry always hungry,
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you know their recovery and all
that.
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So I put aside Add the long,
long distance running was
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running shorter distances, but
then my friends from high school
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about 7 years ago, called me
like hey we got something crazy
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that, you know, you might be
interested.
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So I started doing a Ragnar's
which are approximately 200 mile
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team relay races where you get
two Vans of six people each and
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the first fan starts.
Somebody runs and then everybody
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rides in the van.
And then you switch Runners and
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switch Runners.
And so you go through all six
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people, then you go and you rest
or you sleep on the floor of a
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gym.
Or maybe in the van, while the
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other Vans were cycling through.
Then the first van runs again,
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then the second one first and
second one, you run, three legs
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and you run anywhere from 15 to
20 ish miles and I got into
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doing that I did about 20 of
those but then my one running
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team during covid when all the
races were canceller like okay
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we need to do something crazy so
we don't go insane.
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So we started doing like virtual
Ragnar's and all this and then
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we decide.
Hey let's do a backyard Ultra.
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So every hour you'd run, one,
two or three miles in the next
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hour you doing.
Again, next, are you again?
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So I committed to the screen
miles and unfortunately they
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start at nine.
I thought we started at 5:00
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a.m. so I had a four-hour Head
Start.
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So I had 12 miles more than they
did.
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Then by mid-afternoon I'm at
like, you know, 30 35 miles.
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I'm like, you know what, why
don't I just stretch this out
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and do a double Marathon because
from a mathematics, point of
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view, two negatives, make a
positive.
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So if I did two marathons,
technically I didn't do a single
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Marathon.
It was okay.
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Yes.
I know I would bizarre logic.
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And when you're like 40 miles
into a run, your mind starts
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saying weird things.
So that was my first ultra
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marathon and one of the big
things I learned during that I
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was about 40 miles into it, I
was completely physically
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exhausted.
I was starting to go a little
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weird mentally which happens
deep into longer on my emotional
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reserves were almost tapped out
and what my friends called me
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and she was going through a
major crisis, emotional crisis.
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And so I shifted all my focus
Asan to her while I was still
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shuffling along because I wasn't
really running at that point.
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And I spent the next two hours
trying to talk her off the ledge
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and get her through her
emotional things, and that's how
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I end up getting through the
last part of the first
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ultramarathon was by focusing on
somebody else as opposed to
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myself my pain.
And that's how I was able to
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complete it and afterwards as
I'm, you know, sitting there
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having a beer in the shower
because shower bills, the best
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thing in the world especially
after You miles and I'm like,
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you know what, with a little
more training, I could actually
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do this better.
And so, six months later, I
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actually started earlier had
better nutrition.
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I train little bit bar, and I
ended up doing 100 kilometers.
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So, 10 miles more in four hours
less, wow.
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So right now, I'm training for a
72 mile one in November.
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Oh my goodness, that is a lot on
the body.
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Yeah.
My physiotherapist like gets mad
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at me.
She puts me back together again.
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And she's like, oh, Okay, you
know you're limited today you
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can only do like seven miles
today.
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Like really come on.
Well, that is extraordinary
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because it's just seems like you
know every time that you cross
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off something on your list you
wanted like best yourself, you
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want to do a little bit more,
and I don't know if it's
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something that, you know,
consciously do, but it's subtle
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like, well, if I've done that,
then I need to do this next
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logical step.
I need to do this next logical
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step and you don't really think
about the like it as a goal unto
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itself.
Perhaps, it's just like, yeah,
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let's Do it.
And, you know, that's very much
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a martial arts or Runner sort of
mentality, you know trained in
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the martial arts and you get one
belt rank your training for the
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next one, you Fay you compete in
one tournament your next morning
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your training again because it's
there's no finish line for those
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races.
It's the constant desire to
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improve which is one of the
concepts behind every day
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Excellence.
Is if you can get just a little
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bit better every day, what can
you become over time?
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Where can we go?
And so it's that concept some of
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my friends joke, acted to you
know competition and Challenge
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and there might be some truth in
that but it is just the
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continuous chance to see what
else we can accomplish.
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Hmm.
So that's the major theme of the
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book is that, you know, the
everyday Excellence is unjust
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like the constant B of
improvement that you can do no
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matter what they are in your
life, right?
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And it's little things, every
single A, we make somewhere
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around 10,000 micro decisions
and a lot of them are routine.
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If we can make, just a couple of
better micro choices per day,
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then the arrow for that day,
it's pointing up instead of
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pointing down and, as clausius
tells Deadpool and the movie,
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I'm a big comic book nerd by the
like, four or five choices
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difference between being a hero
or villain.
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Now, for those of us without
superpowers, it's those daily,
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tiny things, 45, better choices,
you know, do I Eat the healthy
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snack, or do I have the donor?
I love donuts.
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So, you know, that's a difficult
one for me, but you can also set
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up your environment to default
better choices.
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So, for example, if you've got
problem that you drank too much
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soda, okay, don't have soda in
the house.
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So you're stuck with water, tea
coffee, you know, some a better
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option.
If you have problem that you
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keep going on your phone to a
places that you shouldn't go,
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whether it's a game that waste
your time.
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More if you dating app on there
that really shouldn't have
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delete it, then you're not
tempted.
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You don't even have to expend
any energy to have discipline,
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the choice, just completely
disappears.
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And this is why I say things
that Feller end up winning Nobel
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prize in economics for is
decision-making.
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Theory, concept of nudge of
making it so that it's easier to
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make better decisions.
And if you can do that, then you
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have more mental bandwidth for
the more important things that
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you can accomplish.
More.
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But then your routines which
make up 75 plus percent of our
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day are better and move you in
the right direction.
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That's why you should have your
running shoes, next to the bed
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and your your workout clothes.
So you roll out of bed and your
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trip over them and so you put
them on instead of having to go
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and get them out of the drawer,
the closet and have that extra
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couple of steps which make it so
that you're less likely to make
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the good choice.
Yeah, and that's the basis
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between other great books like
Tomic habits and evolve Atomic
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habits.
Yeah.
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Thrive at Arianna Huffington.
I'm, they're very much into
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like, the micro steps is, like,
what are those very easily?
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Achievable like little tiny
things that you can do to move
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the needle every single day to
make those.
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Those improvements that can have
overtime, accumulative and
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dramatic effect on your life.
Did James clears concept of
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habit, stacking something that I
actually utilized in writing the
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book and I still have a habit
stack.
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I get up in the morning.
I grabbed my half a cup of
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coffee.
As it's ready to go.
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And I turn on the coffee pot,
which I prepped the night
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before.
I sit down, I brain dump
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anything that was in my brain.
So I just write for a couple of
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minutes.
Then.
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I read a couple of different
things right now, it's the daily
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00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,600
laws, by Robert Greene last
year, it was daily stoic.
446
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:27,200
I read my copy of the book.
I post a couple of quick things
447
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:32,800
and then I get up and I go work
out, I go run for 20 minutes,
448
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:35,500
Taekwondo, whatever.
And then I sit down I write
449
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:40,900
again because those workouts My
body was getting fully
450
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:44,300
actualized for the day.
My mind was processing, the
451
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,200
stuff that had just read in.
Typically I'm listening to
452
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,300
podcasts or audiobooks or
whatever when I'm working out.
453
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,800
So I now have all this stuff
that jumbled around there was
454
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,400
working out and ready to then
write for another 20-30 minutes.
455
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:02,100
And so I start that day at 4:15
in the morning so my 5:30 I've
456
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:05,500
already accomplished enough to
set up my day that if my day
457
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,400
ended right there, it would have
been pretty productive already.
458
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,500
And this is before anybody else
is there to help sit up.
459
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,200
Yeah.
And I want to thank you, first
460
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,700
of all, for sharing with us,
your diagnosis.
461
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:20,800
Because I think that when people
think about ADHD, they think
462
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,700
about things that might be
distractions, any think like,
463
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:26,300
oh, if I'm on a path and then
all of a sudden, something else
464
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:30,400
happens, then it kind of blows
up the day and they and they get
465
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,800
off track.
But in your being able to be
466
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,300
disciplined and recognizing your
ADHD, and taking that to a place
467
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,300
where You're able to have it
stack, you're able to really
468
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:44,500
create functionality and all of
these things that you love to do
469
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:47,000
and compress the time and what
you're doing it, because you're
470
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000
not messing around and doing all
these things that are weight,
471
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800
quota quit wasting time, it
becomes extremely productive and
472
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,300
useful for you.
I also use a lot of techniques
473
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,500
that I've learned over time.
So for example, I completely
474
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,700
turn off the phone.
So like now my phone can't even
475
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:05,400
rang to disturb us because it's
turned off completely.
476
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,300
You know what, the world's not
going to end in the our
477
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:09,800
conversation that were having If
it does so be it.
478
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Yeah, so it's not going to be
fatal during that time if I'm
479
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,800
going to work on a task but
whether it's writing or taking
480
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,000
care of some marketing things
all set a timer for 15 to 25
481
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200
minutes.
It's called the Pomodoro method
482
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:28,000
and just hammer away.
On if I'm writing, I don't need
483
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,200
internet to research stuff.
I literally turn the internet
484
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,100
off while go into a different
room and completely Focus.
485
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,400
So I'll be in a bare room so
there's nothing there too.
486
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,400
Stratton.
Now, am I going to try and do
487
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,500
that for three hours?
No, because I know my
488
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:47,500
limitations, which is why things
that you learn over time but any
489
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,400
one of us can do things for
10-15 minutes.
490
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,400
You just fly all out and get
hammer away.
491
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,100
Then you get up and you do
something else and bicycling,
492
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:01,100
that way going from task to task
to task, you can actually
493
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,600
accomplish a lot of different
things.
494
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:06,600
Now, there's something called
switching friction, you know,
495
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,000
the trick, the cost of mentally.
Shifting gears from X Y, but I
496
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,900
shift very quickly because of
the ADHD so I can go do, do do,
497
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:19,100
do, do, do and just you go
through serial tasks quickly and
498
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,400
then, you know, I do multitask
like a madman.
499
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600
So if I'm making dinner I'm
listening to a podcast also.
500
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,700
Supervising the kids getting
their homework done know, if I'm
501
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,200
working out, I'm listening to
something and I stopped every,
502
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,500
you know, 10 minutes while I'm
running to take a note or write
503
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:37,300
something down, you just because
my mind still processing.
504
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:42,800
I wasn't I Our poems, and the
basis of multiple articles,
505
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,600
while on a 5-mile run all the
time.
506
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,400
So then I just give myself a
voice memo or whatever and keep
507
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,600
going.
And so, capturing like that
508
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,600
allows us to then be able to
come back around and process as
509
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,900
appropriate.
So people should keep like a pad
510
00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,100
by their bed.
Wake up.
511
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,900
You have an idea.
You just write it down and roll
512
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,400
back over and go to sleep.
If they're in the morning it's
513
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,300
not lost in The Ether so that
you can move on forward.
514
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,300
So these are strategies that
That I have learned over time.
515
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:14,700
And one of the things that I
found, because as we talked
516
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,600
about previously, I've got to
special needs kids ones.
517
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,300
That Asperger's ones autistic is
reaching out to other members of
518
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,700
the autism Community to find
strategies that they have found
519
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:29,800
have worked with their kids.
So one thing that I actually
520
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,600
done to myself is something I
learned for using with my son,
521
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,300
if he's having a really bad day,
like you just got up on the
522
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,500
wrong side of bed, things are
not going, right?
523
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:39,800
I'm like, buddy, we're We're
hitting the reset button,
524
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,400
literally hit the button, I
bring them back up into his
525
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,000
room.
We take his glasses off, we put
526
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,100
them on the nightstand, I tuck
them in.
527
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,600
I swaddle them tight like you do
a baby because Ava autistic kid
528
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,800
like that pressure and my kids
still wears a mask because he
529
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,500
enjoys it so you just turn it on
by turn out the way.
530
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,700
I'm like all right good night
walk out.
531
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:02,400
I come back in about five
minutes later and I wake him up
532
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,400
again as if it's a brand new day
and about 50 to 60 percent of
533
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200
the time it works.
Tell them to completely reset.
534
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000
So why don't we?
As big people do that, you know
535
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200
what?
If you're being cranky, SOB,
536
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,200
turn out the lights, take a
five-minute power now.
537
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,500
Reset your day, like that
everybody around, you will be
538
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,800
happy that you did.
Mmm.
539
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,300
Yeah, that's amazing.
And I love the concepts that you
540
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:29,400
were just talking about of like
making sure that the things that
541
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000
could potentially distract you
or derail your day, are not
542
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000
within your limitations, we're
not within even your reach or
543
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
your grasp.
And so, you know, Turning off
544
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
the computer, you're turning off
the internet, you're turning off
545
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,300
your phone.
You're making sure that those
546
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,400
aren't even available to you.
I kind of liken it to the idea
547
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,200
or the concept of vampire
energy.
548
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600
They say, you know, when you
keep things plugged in, then
549
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,700
there's still sapping energy.
And so even like keeping a phone
550
00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:55,400
near you that could go off and
that you might hear rang.
551
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,100
I mean, your attention
automatically goes to that if
552
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,600
you don't necessarily just shut
it down and remove that
553
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,900
distraction from your vicinity
and yeah.
554
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,300
And I think it's actually a
pretty valuable tool that other
555
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,900
People can probably employ
pretty easily if they have the
556
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,700
discipline to do it, right?
And so, one of the things is
557
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,300
that if you set up the
environment, you actually remove
558
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:21,300
the necessity of discipline is
discipline means that I need to
559
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:25,300
physically choose to do this,
but if that, this other thing is
560
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,500
not even an option, it's
completely off the plate.
561
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,900
Off the table, you can't spend
any NGO.
562
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,700
So going back to Steve Jobs,
Steve Jobs wear the same outfit
563
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,900
every single day.
He had different Verizon at the
564
00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:37,700
black turtleneck, had the black
jeans.
565
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
And why Because that way,
expended no mental energy.
566
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,300
I so it's literally just grab it
go.
567
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
I have, I think, one or two
shirts total dress shirts.
568
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,500
They're not white dress.
Shirts, blue, suits, black
569
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,900
suits.
I now have a gray suit, you
570
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,300
know, white shirts ties with
blue and them ties with black in
571
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,800
them pies with gray in them.
So, it's literally, I can grab
572
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,500
any of it.
And I even after thinking, just
573
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,100
go and so that, then freeze up
mental bandwidth.
574
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,400
Every person has seven plus, or
minus two mental channels that
575
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:12,100
We can utilize any one point.
And so like if you have three,
576
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,700
kids guess what?
Typically, your kids are taking
577
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:15,500
up three of them.
Unless, you know, they're off at
578
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,500
school or whatever, they're off
at camp and so you can shut
579
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,200
those down, okay, we're worried
about work or worried about your
580
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,300
significant other, so it
overwhelms us.
581
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,700
So being able to literally lay
out and have something out.
582
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,800
Buddy else, take those
components.
583
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,900
This is why financial advisors
say I'm going to be your family
584
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,200
CFO and they take the worry in
the responsibility away for
585
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
that.
This is why You Outsource and
586
00:31:39,808 --> 00:31:44,600
I'll always mentally and allows
you to then have more capacity
587
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,800
to focus on what you're doing.
So if you send the kids to their
588
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
grandparents, for a couple of
days, you're able to be that
589
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800
much more productive because you
don't have the worry of what's
590
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,300
this kid doing.
Hey, it's too quiet in the house
591
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:58,800
right now.
They're up to something.
592
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,100
You know, so it allows you to as
my son's, taekwondo Master says,
593
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,600
focus and finish.
I love that concept.
594
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200
Focus and finish.
What about Out for the people
595
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
who are just natural born
worriers, or they start to
596
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,500
ruminate and think I do have
some friends who are also ADHD
597
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,300
and they may be on the spectrum
and their mind continues to play
598
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,300
these mental gymnastics on them.
Even if something is not in the
599
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,800
room or they don't necessarily
have to worry about it.
600
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:29,300
It's the, it's almost like the
the complexity of choice, even
601
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,700
if they have two choices,
they'll worry about making the
602
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,600
wrong decision.
And so they'll just contemplate
603
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,500
that for the longest period of
time.
604
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:40,100
And so we you know it's like
What would you say go?
605
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,100
There's a couple of things that
we can do and that's really
606
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
anxiety getting into play in
some ways.
607
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,900
So one of the things, it's like
you said it's just do it.
608
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,700
So if you can't make the
decision between two things and
609
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,400
you thought about and thought
about flip a coin heads, you
610
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,900
know, first one Tails second
one.
611
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,200
As you flip it, you're going to
find that you're rooting for one
612
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,900
side.
So the flipping of the coin is
613
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,700
not the decision maker, the
flipping of the coordinate
614
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:08,300
forces you into revealing, which
decision, you transgender.
615
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Truly want they so heads, we do
exhales, we do I come on heads,
616
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,400
okay?
Well that's why I really want,
617
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,600
that's why I need to do, okay?
So it's really almost like the
618
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,300
exogenous event that forces you
to make the decision.
619
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,400
That's what flipping the coin is
in some ways.
620
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,500
Another thing is be like,
Star-Lord, have 12% of the plant
621
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,800
because the plans going to
change as Mike.
622
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Tyson says, Everybody's Got A
Plan until they get punched in
623
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200
the face.
Anybody who's going on a long
624
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,600
road trip knows there's
construction.
625
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,500
There's detours as all this
stuff.
626
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,400
So have the preliminary They're
a part of a plan and just start
627
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000
going understanding that you're
going to figure it out.
628
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Understand that.
Okay, when I reach here, I'll
629
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,700
have, I'll figure out the next
couple of steps from there.
630
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,700
So instead of looking at this
huge thing, I need to go from
631
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,600
here to here.
This is how I break down
632
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,700
ultramarathons you know just
even thinking of doing 100 km is
633
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,300
overwhelming.
I can do five kilometers, I can
634
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,000
do a kilometer, I can go from
here to that corner.
635
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,900
That's not a big deal.
I'll just go to that corner and
636
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:06,500
I'll figure out where I'm going
from there.
637
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,300
And then another one, no one and
all Son, you realize that you've
638
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:15,000
done 35 miles and so that's
another way to be able to get
639
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,199
through it.
Another thing for people who are
640
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,800
really, anxious is write it
down, because you're anxious
641
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,600
because it's all rallying around
your head.
642
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,100
Why told you about writing down
my couple of key things, I need
643
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,199
to accomplish, I write them down
and then I don't worry as I
644
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,400
knock him off the list.
Like okay, awesome awesome.
645
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,199
Alright, although I'm in the
bonus round and then I can sit
646
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:37,100
and think for a couple minutes
about Waters the next group of
647
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,100
things that I should do.
And to make sure that I don't
648
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:44,500
get overwhelmed by any of it
because instead of trying to
649
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,400
focus on everything, which
allows you to focus on nothing
650
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,199
and just be completely
overwhelmed, you focus on a
651
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,699
couple of things, get them taken
care of, and then you can
652
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:56,800
re-evaluate and focus on the
next tier.
653
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,700
Thanks again, coming back to
what is taekwondo Master said,
654
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,800
focus and finish for them.
It's focusing on finishing.
655
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,800
Yo doing this technique 10 times
or, you know, finish on your 10
656
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,900
push-ups or what have you In the
business world where we're
657
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,500
juggling all these different
balls.
658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,500
Its focus on, getting these
couple of things done, don't
659
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,300
worry about anything else.
Take care of those then
660
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:21,100
re-evaluate move forward and
that's how you can make
661
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:24,800
consistent steady progress, even
in a chaotic environment.
662
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,300
Yeah.
Now, you had mentioned, why take
663
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:29,600
the hard path as opposed to the
easy one?
664
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,200
So I was hoping that you'd speak
to that, okay?
665
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,600
And here's the thing.
In every situation, we have a
666
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,000
choice, we make a decision.
And if you break it down all
667
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,400
decisions.
Come into basically two critical
668
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,800
paths.
There is, what is easy in the
669
00:35:45,808 --> 00:35:47,900
moment going?
What feels good.
670
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,400
I'm going to eat this donut
instead of having this out.
671
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,300
I'm going to take the drag on
this cigarette instead of not
672
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,100
doing it.
I'm going to play video games
673
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,000
instead of studying for my test.
I'm not going to have that
674
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,100
difficult conversation with my
crush.
675
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,900
We're just going to, you know,
ignore this for now.
676
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,400
And when you do what feels good
in the moment to avoid the more
677
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,800
difficult thing.
NG what ends up happening is.
678
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,100
Yeah, you feel good.
But it's like putting a Band-Aid
679
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:16,300
on a bullet wound or, you know,
getting that Quick Fix, You
680
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,400
know, it makes you feel good in
the moment.
681
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,300
But, at least something slightly
worse.
682
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,800
And then something slightly
works.
683
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,400
So if I continuously eat the
doughnuts, guess what?
684
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,500
I'm gonna have diabetes in my
pants aren't going to fit.
685
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:28,600
I'm going to have trouble
getting out of bed and all that
686
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800
and nine out of ten leading
cause of death in the United
687
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400
States.
Our lifestyle diseases from at
688
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200
taking that easy choice, that
feels good in the moment, okay.
689
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,500
Instead of taking that Easy
Choice, the other group of
690
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,600
choices is the harder Choice
from a chemistry point of view,
691
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
there's higher activation
energy, it takes more work, you
692
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,400
know, that's going and getting
off the couch and running five
693
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,500
kilometers.
Instead of saying they're eating
694
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:57,000
Cheetos, watching The Bachelor,
it is cracking the book and
695
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,500
studying so I get a better
grade.
696
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,300
So I get a better job as opposed
to saying there and Dorking
697
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:07,100
around having fun in the moment
and not having a good career.
698
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:11,800
It is the difficult discussion
with the significant other which
699
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,800
means that you avoid the divorce
because you're doing the hard
700
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,900
work on your relationship.
It is, you know, going for the
701
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,400
run in the rain.
I hate running in the rain.
702
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,900
And yet, I do a regular basis
and why I'm getting out ready to
703
00:37:25,908 --> 00:37:29,200
go on out, I'm like, all right
this is going to suck.
704
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:31,300
I'm going to get the sloggy
feed, the winds going to be in
705
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:32,600
my face.
It's going to be horrible.
706
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
It's going to take two days for
those shoes to try out the
707
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,400
progress.
Stink.
708
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
You know, I'm gonna get Squishy
feet.
709
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,600
Gonna be cold, this is going to
be not fun at all, but if I do
710
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,500
it, I have greater reserves.
I do difficult things.
711
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,000
And so it makes me stronger, it
makes things easier overall.
712
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,700
If I choose to do the thing, I
don't want to do that's more
713
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,400
difficult now.
It actually leads to the easier
714
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,300
path in life and so we can take
the road of convenience or we
715
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,700
can take the road of Excellence.
Mmm, well, that's beautiful.
716
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,300
I also want to just match that
up to the The stoics point of
717
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:13,000
view or two, if you could even
call it like a Buddhist flow
718
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,600
point of view which is more
about the relinquishing of
719
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,500
suffering by changing your
mindset towards those things,
720
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:21,800
which would otherwise, cause you
suffering.
721
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,300
And so that's another way of
looking at it.
722
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,500
Because yeah, the do not all of
the things that are like more of
723
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:31,500
the lazy choices might be in
flow with a certain mindset, but
724
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:36,100
if you're able to level up, or
shift your mindset to know that
725
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,600
doing that is creating some Sort
of coping mechanism on to
726
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,700
itself.
And if you look beyond that to
727
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,000
look at the longer term prize,
then you realize that's really
728
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,900
what I want.
That's why I'm going to get up.
729
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:50,900
That's why I'm going to run,
that's why I'm going to do this
730
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,800
in the rain.
And I actually enjoy it because
731
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
I know that it's going to be
more fulfilling as I'm doing it
732
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
in doing something.
That's very challenging or you
733
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
know what the prize is going to
be at the end of the road and I
734
00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:06,500
love how you brought up both the
stoics and Buddhism because they
735
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:10,400
are so related, a lot of ways.
Ways in that learn to love the
736
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,400
process instead of, you know,
trying to work to get that BMW
737
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,500
fall in love with the process of
working, like a martial artist,
738
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,100
like, you know, you know, you
carry water chop wood.
739
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:25,100
So you're in the moment and
enjoying it and what Jack
740
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,300
LaLanne said years and years
ago, the fitness girl was they
741
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,900
if you learn to love a pepper as
much as a chocolate bar, you're
742
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,100
going to have a much better life
and so, you know, yeah I
743
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,200
occasionally have the donut and
splurge and all that.
744
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,400
Healthy and I enjoy it.
I don't need the big house.
745
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,700
You know, I've got my training
Hall down in the basement.
746
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,300
I've got enough room for stuff,
I can go buy a sports car.
747
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,900
Why do I need one?
You know, so it's being content
748
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,800
with what you have or it's not
being content, it's being happy,
749
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,600
but, never content, I can
improve, but I'm improving me.
750
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:04,300
I'm not trying to get a bigger
office or get a faster car or,
751
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:08,000
you know more.
I'm trying to become more, and
752
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400
if you You can do that, then you
always have enough.
753
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,200
Exactly, I'm so glad that you
also brought that up to, because
754
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,800
there is a difference between
being content and being happy
755
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,900
because being content could mean
complacency and that's not
756
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,700
necessarily what this is about.
It's really about being
757
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:29,000
satisfied with what you have,
where you are in the moment,
758
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,800
enjoying all of those
experiences and being eager for
759
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,000
more, being looking forward to
that Improvement, that you are,
760
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,900
continuously making in yourself
each.
761
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:42,200
And Yeah, one of my friends, put
it as I am enough.
762
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,800
I'm good enough by can always be
better.
763
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,700
Exactly that's exactly right.
And I think that's a good Mantra
764
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:54,500
to live by for you know as the
Stockdale Paradox says embrace
765
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,100
the bitter truth but never give
up hope you know assess who you
766
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,500
are understand where your
shortfalls in your strengths and
767
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,000
all that and be ready to work on
making yourself better.
768
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,900
Not because of Any external
thing any drive like that?
769
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,200
But because working on yourself,
if you're doing it will give you
770
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,100
something that you can always
focus on.
771
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:23,100
You can always make tiny
improvements and you can see the
772
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:26,400
results.
And when you're doing that, you
773
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,800
become more joyful overall and
that has all sorts of benefits.
774
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,700
Psychologically,
relationship-wise translates
775
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:38,100
into what we do for work
health-wise.
776
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,600
It will extend your longevity
and so making yourself your
777
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,900
task.
Your greatest Masterpiece is
778
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:50,100
going to have all sorts of
wonderful results and it becomes
779
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,500
highly attractive.
Other people with that growth
780
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:57,300
oriented mindset, see you and
will want to be around you and
781
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,800
you'll be around like-minded.
People that want to see the best
782
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,500
in you the best out of you.
Yeah.
783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,600
You'll find your tribe by law of
attraction.
784
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,400
Exactly.
I actually want to go back to
785
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,100
your early days.
Because as you mentioned, when
786
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,500
you were 10 years old, you had a
near-death experience and nde
787
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,700
and I wasn't near death.
I was dead.
788
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:19,800
You were dead.
Okay?
789
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800
So I like that Dad.
You were dead.
790
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,700
Can you tell us about that
experience?
791
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,500
Sure.
So being severely, asthmatic.
792
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,800
The back in the 1970s, we didn't
have the puffers that everyone
793
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,900
does now.
So basically, you'd go to the
794
00:42:32,908 --> 00:42:35,500
doctor and you get dry Nolan, go
to the hospital.
795
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,500
You be stuck in an oxygen tent
and all this sort Stop.
796
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,100
So I was 10 years old, I was
having an asthma attack.
797
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:46,900
My mom brought meat stock Marie.
I'm lying there on the table and
798
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:52,200
I was scrawny scrawny kid.
Can barely be that Mike and all
799
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,400
the sudden I could, you know, I
didn't have that tightness
800
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,900
weightless, I'm floating on up.
There's lots of light, I'm
801
00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,500
looking down.
See my mom?
802
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,800
She's freaking out, obviously,
dr.
803
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,300
Murray certainly looks like an
octopus.
804
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,900
He's got all these extra arms.
He's try and do stuff.
805
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
And I hear the Big D.
Deep voice like James Earl
806
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,300
Jones, not yet Time.
Boom.
807
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,000
All the sudden I'm back down my
body again and you know I'm
808
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600
finally able to get a little air
and then they take me over the
809
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
hospital put me in the oxygen
tent and from that day forward
810
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600
I've been like this.
So you attribute the way that
811
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,300
you are to essentially that
particular period of time.
812
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:34,500
That particular instance I've
always been high energy but from
813
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,100
that point forward it's been not
even a conscious choice.
814
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:44,900
It's been just who I am to not
screw around to not waste time
815
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,300
to maximize.
I mean, my I went and saw one of
816
00:43:48,308 --> 00:43:52,400
my friends this weekend and her
boys, my nephews and all that
817
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,300
and literally she's like, you
don't stop.
818
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Even when you're relaxing,
you're running Ultra marathons
819
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,700
or you're helping other people
out.
820
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,500
It's like that's just the way
that I am.
821
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:05,700
And so my life is filled with
you stress as opposed to
822
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,900
distress so you stress is
Exciting it re-energizes.
823
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,200
So I do a lot of very intense
thinking and mental energy and
824
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,200
writing for work, but then I
balance it by going and doing
825
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,500
something very hard physically
doing emotionally challenging
826
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:23,800
stuff.
So by this constant, shifting of
827
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,900
gears and essentially using
different mindsets and skill
828
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,400
sets and muscles was mental and
physical.
829
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,900
You know, it's allowing the
other ones to rest.
830
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,900
And so, one of the things I
recommend people is, if you got
831
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,900
a very physically intense job,
Your relaxation do something,
832
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,000
very mentally Intense or
emotionally.
833
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,600
And if you got a very mentally
intense job, like an attorney
834
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,700
from your scientist, things like
that.
835
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,400
That's when you go do something
incredibly physical to offset it
836
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,500
and so it becomes almost like
active meditational, always
837
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,500
allows your subconscious to
process, what you have been
838
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,500
working on and relax and
recover.
839
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:07,200
So once that situation had
occurred, did you sense that
840
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400
there?
Was any essence of like newly
841
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,100
instilled purpose or something
that you almost would consider
842
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,000
like a Dharma, like the you are
here for a reason.
843
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,100
It's not your time because and
this is what you are meant to
844
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,900
accomplish.
Or this is what you're meant to
845
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:25,600
do, in order to fulfill out your
time here, on our, right.
846
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,500
And you have to remember I was
10 years old.
847
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,400
So what ten-year-old those what
they want to do with their life?
848
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:32,800
Right?
You know, I was put on this
849
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Earth to serve others and to
make other people better.
850
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:38,500
I'm going to make a difference.
My goal people have I want my
851
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,400
gold, the book and the book
actually is a subset of a bigger
852
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,700
picture is that I want to be
able to reach and help impact
853
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,300
100 million people this year.
Whether it's through podcasts,
854
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,600
like this articles, diorite TV,
appearances, radio, appearances,
855
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,000
people actually get the book,
you know, service speeches,
856
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,700
training individuals.
If I can reach 100 million
857
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:04,200
people and help improve their
lives, they become little nodes
858
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,600
that are then transmitting out
to other people in their
859
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,100
community.
He's and their families and
860
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,900
their businesses.
And so, if I can directly impact
861
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,400
100 million, we can probably
reach billion plus people and
862
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,900
improve their lives.
That's something worth working
863
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,100
towards that as an awesome btech
bi big hairy audacious goal.
864
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,000
This is gold.
Yeah.
865
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:30,000
And so you know we are going
through some unprecedented times
866
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,200
right now.
Well it's just like the antonine
867
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,900
plague back in.
You know you think Marcus
868
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,000
Aurelius just like the 1970s all
over again?
869
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,500
In a lot of ways.
So you know what we've done
870
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:43,900
here.
We've done that yet.
871
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,500
I find that interestingly
enough.
872
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:50,800
We still haven't really learned
how to manage ourselves through
873
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
some of these, you know, Global
situations.
874
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,900
Whether it be a pandemic of
disease or whether it be a
875
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:03,100
pandemic of racism or whether it
be a pandemic of intolerance of
876
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,500
any kind.
What would you were still
877
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,700
stupid?
The unfortunately, we are still
878
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:11,000
big dumb animals in a lot of
ways.
879
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:17,200
We are naturally attracted to
individuals like us because is
880
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,700
subconscious makes us feel more
comfortable.
881
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,100
And really we need to remember
that.
882
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,700
What genetically separates you
from me?
883
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,500
Is almost nothing.
And so the anecdote to fear is
884
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:33,900
exposure.
If you got fear of spiders you
885
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:35,900
know what do we need to do?
We need to look at pictures of
886
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,000
spiders and then be in the same
room with a spy.
887
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,900
And get close to a spider and
you not freak out.
888
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:45,500
If you've got a fear of somebody
who looks different, we need to
889
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,700
have you communicate with them.
We need to have.
890
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,300
You talked to him, we need you
them to understand.
891
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,400
We're all humans, and we have
more alike than what separates
892
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,200
them.
And maybe it's because I grew up
893
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,900
Community, where we were all
relatively not, well, off
894
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,600
financially.
So it didn't matter your skin
895
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,700
color, or your race, or anything
else.
896
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:11,200
We were just all people and you
know, my best friend, it was
897
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,400
originally from Vietnam.
I mean her dad was a major in
898
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,600
the South Vietnamese Army and so
my sister, my favorite sister
899
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200
who I talk to every single day
you know and her dad loved me,
900
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200
more than he loves her and my
mom always loved.
901
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200
See, I'm when she loved me and
so that's just the way it is.
902
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,500
That's my sister, okay.
And her kid brother is my
903
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:37,200
brother so it doesn't matter.
Yo what color hair somebody has
904
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
or how much melon An engineer
system or the shape of their
905
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,900
eyes, or he'll, if somebody's
Buddhist and somebody's
906
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,800
Catholic, or what have you in
the end, we are still humans.
907
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,200
We are all brothers and sisters,
and cousins that works and so
908
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:54,000
deal with it open up.
Learn from each other.
909
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Yeah, and my Dharma is, it's the
human Beauty movement and
910
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,800
bringing people together.
And the thing that I always am
911
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,900
pondering is the concept of the
algorithm and the fact that, you
912
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,800
know, there is this concept of
in the end it's always a
913
00:49:06,808 --> 00:49:08,800
two-horse race.
It's always the US versus them.
914
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,100
It's always black versus white,
it's always good versus evil.
915
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,000
It's always a journey of the or
of the oars.
916
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,300
And unfortunately, what happens
with the, you know, the power of
917
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,500
the algorithm, it's like it's
creating polarity, it creates a
918
00:49:20,508 --> 00:49:24,500
divide and it creates a stance
in which like we are always
919
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:26,300
going to be right?
No, we are always going to be
920
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:27,800
right?
And then the two are never going
921
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,900
to agree.
So how do we from a poetic
922
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:35,000
philosophical or physical
physics Way?
923
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,500
Start thinking about the
solution to Bringing People
924
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:43,200
together as so it's not a binary
solution which is how everybody
925
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,900
looks at things either 1 or 0 K.
If you look visible light is a
926
00:49:47,908 --> 00:49:52,500
spectrum going from five hundred
and twenty nanometers up to 700
927
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,800
ish, okay?
And there's Shades, you can't
928
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,800
tell where orange ends and ride
begins.
929
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,700
Okay, so have this understanding
and have this perspective and
930
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,200
perception that, okay?
We're just seeing in slightly
931
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,400
different colors, but we're
looking at the same Nominal,
932
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,700
we're looking at these same
things.
933
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:14,000
Let's try and understand, and
I'm reference the tyranny of the
934
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,600
or as opposed to the beauty of
the and know we can be this and
935
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,400
this yo we can have Traditional
Values and allow people to be
936
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,600
human beings and be themselves.
Okay, so expanding our concept
937
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,300
and remembering in the end that
when the aliens come on down,
938
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,700
invade like an Independence Day.
Guess what?
939
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,900
It's US versus them.
It's not you versus me or
940
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:43,000
Inspiration.
It's, it's us against the
941
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,300
universe or us on the same team
to be able to make the world a
942
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:52,800
better place because that you
know, I'm right, you're wrong.
943
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,900
You're wrong.
I'm right, that dichotomy is
944
00:50:55,900 --> 00:51:01,200
based upon zero-sum game mindset
as opposed to having an
945
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600
abundance mentality.
And hey, let's work together.
946
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,200
You've got some ideas, I've got
some ideas, we're not going to
947
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,900
agree on everything.
We're not going to disagree.
948
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:11,700
On everything we've got this
Venn diagram of overlap of
949
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:13,600
concept.
Let's see what we can do
950
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,200
together to.
Then improve things because if
951
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,700
you, and I can sit down and swap
some ideas and work together, we
952
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,700
can expand the pie from 100 to
120.
953
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,200
And even if my share of it
becomes slightly smaller, I've
954
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,900
got a slightly smaller share of
a bigger portion and as such,
955
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:37,200
I'm still better off and there's
that, and then there's no longer
956
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,500
participating.
The social media and the
957
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,400
Instagram and Tick-Tock and say,
oh look at them, they're so
958
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
perfect.
They are, they've got no
959
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,700
worries.
I need to be just like them.
960
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,800
And, you know, fueling all this
anxiety and fear of missing out
961
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,500
and trying to be like the
Joneses since that's all
962
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:56,900
external.
And instead, Focus, internal
963
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,700
learn from other people.
Appreciate what they have.
964
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:06,100
Use them to inspire you, but not
become jealous and hateful over
965
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,300
it.
And then just become A better
966
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,400
version of you.
And if more people focused on
967
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,700
being the best version of them
that they could be, we'd be a
968
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:15,500
much better place.
Absolutely.
969
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,200
It all starts from the
individual and that's why I
970
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,500
believe in the power of touching
individuals and letting them see
971
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,200
their worth.
Letting them see their Divinity
972
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:29,700
from within so that there's less
of a tendency for comparison and
973
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:33,700
for resentment and for jealousy
because all of that like the
974
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:36,600
seeking of external validation,
external, validation is nice.
975
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,800
Everybody likes the complement
of Arse but it's not that you.
976
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,600
If you feed off in you need it.
If that is your existence then
977
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,300
you become a vampire.
You talk about energy, vampires
978
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,600
that becomes a psychic vampire,
that becomes ultimately the path
979
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,900
to narcissism and, you know,
there's nothing good that comes
980
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,200
out.
That's an extract of sort of
981
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,100
relationship as opposed to a
creative symbiotic where we can
982
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,400
make each other better.
Instead of I need to draw from
983
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,600
you.
Exactly.
984
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,300
Exactly.
Well, So you've had such words
985
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:13,200
of wisdom for us today.
I'm so glad that you came on as
986
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,300
a role models guest, thank you
for all your words, and here's
987
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,300
to changing the lives of 100
million people this year for
988
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:22,500
you.
I am rooting for you Jennifer.
989
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,100
Thank you.
This has been an absolute blast.
990
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,900
I learned a lot on better for
you.
991
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,300
Make me laugh and smile.
You improved my day.
992
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,900
Yeah, excellent and grow today.
Thank you so much.
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Hello, beautiful humans.
Welcome to role models.
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Juicy conversations with
beautiful humans.
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I'm Jennifer Norman founder of
the human Beauty movement and
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your host, my guest today is
Joe, templin, Joe is a human
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Kaizen expert and author.
He has more degrees than a
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thermometer and is an
ultra-marathoner, and A pendant
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geek, a special-needs single
dad, and a martial artist.
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Basically a human Swiss army
knife.
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His book everyday Excellence was
the Kindle number one, new
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release in professional
development.
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I'm so happy to introduce him to
you.
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So welcome, Joe, Jennifer glad
to be here, you know, I don't
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know why I am on a podcast about
beautiful humans because I got
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the face made for radio.
That is so not true, of course
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we always say beauty.
Is from within, but I think
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everybody is beautiful and of
the more unique the better.
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That's what I say.
I think that there's always
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something really magical about
different faces.
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So I think that's amusing, but
at any rate, please share
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something about yourself, share
anything about yourself that you
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think that we would like to know
what's your background?
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And how did you become that?
Beautiful human that you are
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today.
So I had to awesome parents.
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Encouraged education, my mom,
the nun who I tell jokes about.
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Yes, my mom was a nun and then
Had six kids.
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So that's an entirely different,
interesting story and my dad was
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the first person in his family.
To go, to college was Army ROTC
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got commission and then three
months later was the Bay of
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Pigs.
So, here we go.
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Thinking that the world's going
to end, and that's how he
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started his military career.
He got out during Vietnam and
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found his consulting firm.
So, here I have these two very
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strong influences, that always
actually encouraged us to
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respect.
Authority.
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But not blatantly accept it and
to always desire to learn and
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better ourselves.
And so that is the foundation
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from which my entire life
literally is built off of.
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Yeah, you pretty much had a life
filled with discipline and
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Order, didn't you?
It was discipline order but I
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needed it because I'm ADHD and
back in the 70s.
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We had diagnosed people that we
just said that they were high
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energy but that gave me the
overall structure to be able to
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explore within and be able to
pursue what interested me.
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So whether it was physics,
psychology poetry philosophy,
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martial arts music, my parents
always encouraged me to explore
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and learn everything that I
could and it is I think that
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combination of having
reinforcement and discipline.
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But also Freedom, that Creates a
dichotomy that allows for
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growth.
Yeah.
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And you said that you had to
awesome parents.
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And so that's wonderful.
That it seems like you had such
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a good relationship with them
and that they were very
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encouraging of you pursuing.
All of these different
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interests.
Is that right?
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Yes.
I mean my mom bought us bugs
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when we were kids.
My mom was the youngest seven.
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Kids, she grew up on a farm.
So, she also taught us to shoot.
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She taught me how to hotwire a
car.
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She taught me how to distill
alcohol.
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Very handy.
As a nun to be able to have her
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car into still alcohol.
Yeah, no.
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So these are just like some of
these random facts and tools
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that in other parts of my life
later on, when I was in college,
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or when I was mental officer
came into play, but it was just
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this insatiable desire to learn.
I think I was like eight years
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old but I told my mom, I wanted
to learn everything there was to
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learn, and she's told me, well,
better get to work and the
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encyclopedias over there.
She also Something that
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infuriated me when I was a kid,
if I couldn't spell something or
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know what, then she told me go,
look it up.
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I'm like, if I could spell it, I
would be able to look it up, so
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she didn't like that.
But so did back then exactly.
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And so, the modern equivalent of
that is GTS, Google that stuff.
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So that's why I tell my kids all
the time, but no thing, my mom
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taught me when I was reading
early on, was always have index
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cards because if you don't know
what something means, you write
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it down and then you can go look
it up.
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Later, or you can take notes and
so that was something that in
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college my fraternity encouraged
and even to this day, I always
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have either my phone on me and
take notes or if I'm actually
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wearing suits.
Like today I can have index
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cards in the pocket but this is
literally how I run the
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complexity of my life is just
writing down the four or five.
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Most important things that I
need to do for the day, cross
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them off, as I get through them.
And then I David Letterman and
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throw in the garbage.
I already threw Today.
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So hopefully your third in the
recycling.
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Yeah.
Okay.
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We'll just say that you do
fantastic.
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So that is amazing that, you
know, it seems like you were
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just curious.
You had all of this curiosity
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and you were willing to go
through all of the details and
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the iterations in the
permutations to find out
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everything that you wanted to
know about any subject at all.
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And you know, this is one thing
that I encourage people are in
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high school.
Land College just afterwards is
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now's the time to figure out who
you are college is the greatest,
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you know, Smorgasbord of all
time, I mean you can try 500
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different types of tacos.
You can try a half dozen
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different martial arts, you can
taste every food that exists on
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the planet.
You can study different
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philosophies.
You can audit classes that are
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completely outside your major
that might be of interest and so
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you can learn and develop and an
example that I use of why this
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is important.
Was there was this one guy who
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actually dropped out of college,
but he hung around a took all
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the like, what a 10 different
classes that interest them, and
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he went and took a calligraphy
class that guy was Steve Jobs
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and because of that class, we
end up having all the cool fonts
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on the Macintosh and eventually
all the other computer system.
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So as Steve Jobs said you can't
connect the dots looking
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forward.
It's only looking back that you
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can make some sort of orry and
figure it out.
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So that is one of the things
that I encourage your listeners.
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Is I have teenage boys as you
mentioned.
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And so the analogy I use is
everything in Life's a giant
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video.
We have this massive Quest that
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we're on.
We all want to get to the
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castle, Beat the Boss, you know
save the princess, get the
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treasure and all that and to do
that though, it's not
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necessarily a linear path.
You have to take all these side
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quests.
The side quest might be going
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into the tavern.
In talking to weird old men
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which is typically me, you know,
to get some information.
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It might be going into the end
and just resting that's taking a
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couple of days of vacation to
recharge your body.
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It might be.
You need to get some more gold.
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So you take a side gig or you
work for a company for a few
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years to get resources and
relationships that are going to
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come into play.
When you go back to your main
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quest, whatever that is so early
on your 20s and 30s is figuring
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out what that question really
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Starting to build the mindset
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achieve it.
Yeah for sure I love that
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analogy and I often have used
that myself is that, you know,
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life is meant to be fun.
So think of it as a game and so
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thinking of it as a video game
is highly appropriate,
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especially in this day and age,
where people are wondering if
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we're living in The Matrix or
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Anyway, if we were living in The
Matrix, I want plug on it and be
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able to go I know Kung Fu take
the blue pill I don't want to
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know.
Well, tell us then because, you
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know, you got multiple degrees
as you had mentioned.
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Can you share some of the things
that you had pursued as far as
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your education and whatnot and
before you went into the
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military?
So I actually never went into
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the military because I was early
as Mac as a kid.
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In fact, for my asthma is
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early 90s, there was no
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exemption for asthma at that
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Those came later on.
So, even though I was competing
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for a world championship in
Taekwondo, I still was not
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allowed to enter the military.
So I worked for DARPA.
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I did research in a lab or
cousin Intel officer.
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I taught individuals in the
military, so I taught
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self-defense to them, even
though I technically wasn't
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allowed to be one of them, I
taught them.
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So this is one way as Muhammad.
Ali says, service is the rent
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that you pay for your room here
on Earth.
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This is one of the ways that I
was able to serve and help.
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Individuals, which is something
that I inherited from my parents
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lll.
Always, as my mom always said,
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if you're having a bad day, go
help somebody else out.
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Yeah.
And just so that's one of the
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things that I did.
But I started college at 13,
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because my parents said Paul was
too young to start college and
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some of my friends from that
point are still some of my
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closest friends on the earth.
Some of these people are really,
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really smart and so I was at
Hopkins and then I end up going
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to Rensselaer Polytechnic, RPI,
oldest engineering school in the
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English-speaking World majored
in I'd physics and
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Communications and minored in
astronomy and literature and
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whole bunch of other things.
And I was writing that entire
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time.
So writing has been component of
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who I am for 35 plus years.
Same way that martial arts has
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been a component of who I am for
that long finish that up
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started, my MBA working on my
degree, in engineering physics,
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fish, all that stuff up.
Went into the professional world
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doing financial planning.
I passed the cfp exam and At
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this point, written thousands of
review, questions for it, got
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multiple degrees and finance
like my chart advisor of
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philanthropy, chartered
Financial Consultant and to
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picking up my masters in
executive counseling.
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And really the four Ps, are
there to help explain the world.
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In my opinion, four peas are
physics.
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Philosophy, psychology and
poetry and those four different
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mindsets essentially.
Just to try and answer the same
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set of questions but from
completely different
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perspectives.
And so, one of the things that I
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do actually is I shift between
different mindsets on a regular
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basis and try and utilize, at
least multiple of them every
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single day, because if you can
actually look at a situation
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from two different perspectives,
simultaneously, you generally
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get a better picture of what's
going on.
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Same way that we have two eyes
to give us depth perception.
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Can you give an example?
Advil of maybe a problem that
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you would tackle from one way
from maybe a Philosophers
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perspective versus a physics
perspective.
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So for example, if I'm working
with a business owner and they
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are trying to do something with
their business, maybe they're
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trying to land a new client,
maybe they're trying to get
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funding.
Maybe they're trying to figure
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out what area to move into for a
new product line or something
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like that, we talk.
About it.
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Both from the point of view of
physics which is Hardcore,
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mathematical problem solving
modeling and things like that.
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But then like this actually
happened this morning was
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talking with somebody that
advised.
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I had talked to him from the
philosophy, point of view of, if
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you do X, how are you going to
feel?
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If you do, why, how are you
going to feel which path is the
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path of Integrity for you?
So we looked at it from a pure
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Financial which is more.
Nicole and thus physics point of
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view, but we also explored it
from that philosophy point of
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view, he's like, damn, you
template make me ask tough
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questions.
That's awesome.
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I went to Medical a really good
problem.
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Would have been the art of the
poh is not say everything is the
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old saying, so I would just like
leave the pregnant pause there
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and make him very uncomfortable
as he contemplates it.
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A lot of ways.
Sighs.
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Yeah, but as Robin Williams
said, in Dead Poets Society
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poetry's there to movement, so
there's awful.
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That's not untrue.
Well, it's interesting because I
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agree with you.
I think, you know, looking at a
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problem.
Number one, you can't do it.
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You can't find a solution being
in the mindset of the problem
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and so getting out of that zone
and getting into a different
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Zone, whatever that zone is is
number one, very helpful but
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then also channeling and getting
into these different mindsets
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allows you to Liberty of just
creative exploration in order to
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get two different Avenues and
things that you hadn't
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necessarily or would not have
necessarily.
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Thought of if you would just
thinking vary linearly to your
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points like the physics or the
mathematical roots and people
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rely on that, don't they just
like the physics, the math of
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the middle of the numbers people
get almost pigeon-holed or
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biased in some ways and every
situation is like life or an
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individual them.
All's we're like a diamond,
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there's multiple different
facets.
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And so if we look from different
perspectives, we can see
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different things, different
aspects, different facets and
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increases our understanding.
And in many situations, it can
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improve our appreciation of the
beauty of it.
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Absolutely seeing things from
all different angles and then
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you find something uncovered,
just like I see your beauty and
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you say you have a face for
radio.
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See, you know what, I got a
sense of humor.
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Or so, that's a great thing.
If you can't laugh at yourself,
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you know, you're again.
Yeah.
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So, tell me about this little
aspects of your aspirations, the
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martial, arts, and doing
marathons and things like that.
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How did you get involved with?
Just going for all of these, you
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know, more interesting and
determined types of physical
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activity?
As I say, I'm not naturally
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talented in any way, shape, or
form.
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As I said, I was severely
asthmatic.
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I was legally dead when I was 10
years old.
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So, My starting point in terms
of physical capability is well
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below.
Basically, anybody else's,
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however, one of the things about
dying and coming back is that
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you don't screw around anymore,
you know, as my friends joke I
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burn the candle at both ends and
in the middle of a flamethrower
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and so I use all 86400 seconds
every single day.
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In fact, I tried multitask so I
can squeeze in extra ones
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because it's not like you can
put them aside and drawn.
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Them tomorrow or next week you
have to use them up that
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particular day.
So my martial arts started
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because there was a bunch of
kids on the bus, harassing my
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kid sister so my mom signed my
sister's up for Taekwondo and
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then I started a couple weeks
later and for some reason it
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just fit with me with my ADHD
the hyper-focus that was
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something that for some reason I
could hyper-focus on and being
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Irish I'm sort of thick-headed
it'll always and so growing up
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on the farm.
I had the natural Farm Boy Work
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ethic and this, just a naturally
appealed.
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So, I found ways to multitask.
So like I would literally
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stretch my legs out in the
stretch machine and sit there,
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and do my Latin homework while
watching TV and stuff like that.
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And so I just really got into
it.
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And so, I got to the point where
every single morning I would get
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up, and I would train.
And 35, plus years later every
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single morning, I still get up
and I train every single day, I
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still throw the basic punches
that I learned.
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Decades ago, 100 plus times each
and every morning.
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At this point I've thrown over
10 million punches.
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I don't even need to think about
and I'm still faster and people
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half my age because I refuse to
give in and acknowledge that
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leveling up chronologically.
And so you know I just continue
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to focus on that from there.
I drifted into a playing
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volleyball.
Played Junior Olympic.
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I played in college, I actually
lettered in college and
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something completely different.
I was mascot.
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So yes.
I was a cheerleader on top of
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everything else.
I started running to supplement
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my other sports and I swore to
myself, okay.
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I'm going to do a marathon by
the time I turned 30 year olds
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I'm never going to do one.
I did my first one about month
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beforehand.
Then I did another Marathon
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about a year later I'm like this
socks.
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I hate running.
I'm never going to do another
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Marathon again because it takes
too much sacrifice.
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In terms of the time I'm tired
I'm always hungry always hungry,
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you know their recovery and all
that.
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So I put aside Add the long,
long distance running was
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running shorter distances, but
then my friends from high school
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about 7 years ago, called me
like hey we got something crazy
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that, you know, you might be
interested.
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So I started doing a Ragnar's
which are approximately 200 mile
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team relay races where you get
two Vans of six people each and
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the first fan starts.
Somebody runs and then everybody
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rides in the van.
And then you switch Runners and
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switch Runners.
And so you go through all six
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people, then you go and you rest
or you sleep on the floor of a
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gym.
Or maybe in the van, while the
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other Vans were cycling through.
Then the first van runs again,
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then the second one first and
second one, you run, three legs
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and you run anywhere from 15 to
20 ish miles and I got into
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doing that I did about 20 of
those but then my one running
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team during covid when all the
races were canceller like okay
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we need to do something crazy so
we don't go insane.
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So we started doing like virtual
Ragnar's and all this and then
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we decide.
Hey let's do a backyard Ultra.
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So every hour you'd run, one,
two or three miles in the next
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hour you doing.
Again, next, are you again?
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So I committed to the screen
miles and unfortunately they
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start at nine.
I thought we started at 5:00
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a.m. so I had a four-hour Head
Start.
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So I had 12 miles more than they
did.
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Then by mid-afternoon I'm at
like, you know, 30 35 miles.
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I'm like, you know what, why
don't I just stretch this out
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and do a double Marathon because
from a mathematics, point of
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view, two negatives, make a
positive.
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So if I did two marathons,
technically I didn't do a single
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Marathon.
It was okay.
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Yes.
I know I would bizarre logic.
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And when you're like 40 miles
into a run, your mind starts
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saying weird things.
So that was my first ultra
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marathon and one of the big
things I learned during that I
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was about 40 miles into it, I
was completely physically
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exhausted.
I was starting to go a little
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weird mentally which happens
deep into longer on my emotional
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reserves were almost tapped out
and what my friends called me
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and she was going through a
major crisis, emotional crisis.
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And so I shifted all my focus
Asan to her while I was still
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shuffling along because I wasn't
really running at that point.
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And I spent the next two hours
trying to talk her off the ledge
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and get her through her
emotional things, and that's how
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I end up getting through the
last part of the first
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ultramarathon was by focusing on
somebody else as opposed to
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myself my pain.
And that's how I was able to
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complete it and afterwards as
I'm, you know, sitting there
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having a beer in the shower
because shower bills, the best
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thing in the world especially
after You miles and I'm like,
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you know what, with a little
more training, I could actually
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do this better.
And so, six months later, I
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actually started earlier had
better nutrition.
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I train little bit bar, and I
ended up doing 100 kilometers.
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So, 10 miles more in four hours
less, wow.
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So right now, I'm training for a
72 mile one in November.
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Oh my goodness, that is a lot on
the body.
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Yeah.
My physiotherapist like gets mad
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at me.
She puts me back together again.
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And she's like, oh, Okay, you
know you're limited today you
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can only do like seven miles
today.
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Like really come on.
Well, that is extraordinary
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because it's just seems like you
know every time that you cross
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off something on your list you
wanted like best yourself, you
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want to do a little bit more,
and I don't know if it's
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something that, you know,
consciously do, but it's subtle
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like, well, if I've done that,
then I need to do this next
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logical step.
I need to do this next logical
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step and you don't really think
about the like it as a goal unto
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itself.
Perhaps, it's just like, yeah,
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let's Do it.
And, you know, that's very much
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a martial arts or Runner sort of
mentality, you know trained in
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the martial arts and you get one
belt rank your training for the
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next one, you Fay you compete in
one tournament your next morning
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your training again because it's
there's no finish line for those
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races.
It's the constant desire to
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improve which is one of the
concepts behind every day
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Excellence.
Is if you can get just a little
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bit better every day, what can
you become over time?
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Where can we go?
And so it's that concept some of
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my friends joke, acted to you
know competition and Challenge
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and there might be some truth in
that but it is just the
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continuous chance to see what
else we can accomplish.
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Hmm.
So that's the major theme of the
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book is that, you know, the
everyday Excellence is unjust
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like the constant B of
improvement that you can do no
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matter what they are in your
life, right?
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And it's little things, every
single A, we make somewhere
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around 10,000 micro decisions
and a lot of them are routine.
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If we can make, just a couple of
better micro choices per day,
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then the arrow for that day,
it's pointing up instead of
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pointing down and, as clausius
tells Deadpool and the movie,
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I'm a big comic book nerd by the
like, four or five choices
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difference between being a hero
or villain.
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Now, for those of us without
superpowers, it's those daily,
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tiny things, 45, better choices,
you know, do I Eat the healthy
401
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snack, or do I have the donor?
I love donuts.
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So, you know, that's a difficult
one for me, but you can also set
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up your environment to default
better choices.
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So, for example, if you've got
problem that you drank too much
405
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soda, okay, don't have soda in
the house.
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So you're stuck with water, tea
coffee, you know, some a better
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option.
If you have problem that you
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keep going on your phone to a
places that you shouldn't go,
409
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whether it's a game that waste
your time.
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More if you dating app on there
that really shouldn't have
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delete it, then you're not
tempted.
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You don't even have to expend
any energy to have discipline,
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the choice, just completely
disappears.
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And this is why I say things
that Feller end up winning Nobel
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prize in economics for is
decision-making.
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Theory, concept of nudge of
making it so that it's easier to
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make better decisions.
And if you can do that, then you
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have more mental bandwidth for
the more important things that
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you can accomplish.
More.
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But then your routines which
make up 75 plus percent of our
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day are better and move you in
the right direction.
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That's why you should have your
running shoes, next to the bed
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and your your workout clothes.
So you roll out of bed and your
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trip over them and so you put
them on instead of having to go
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and get them out of the drawer,
the closet and have that extra
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couple of steps which make it so
that you're less likely to make
427
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the good choice.
Yeah, and that's the basis
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between other great books like
Tomic habits and evolve Atomic
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habits.
Yeah.
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Thrive at Arianna Huffington.
I'm, they're very much into
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like, the micro steps is, like,
what are those very easily?
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Achievable like little tiny
things that you can do to move
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the needle every single day to
make those.
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Those improvements that can have
overtime, accumulative and
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dramatic effect on your life.
Did James clears concept of
436
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habit, stacking something that I
actually utilized in writing the
437
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book and I still have a habit
stack.
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I get up in the morning.
I grabbed my half a cup of
439
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coffee.
As it's ready to go.
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And I turn on the coffee pot,
which I prepped the night
441
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before.
I sit down, I brain dump
442
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anything that was in my brain.
So I just write for a couple of
443
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minutes.
Then.
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I read a couple of different
things right now, it's the daily
445
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laws, by Robert Greene last
year, it was daily stoic.
446
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I read my copy of the book.
I post a couple of quick things
447
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and then I get up and I go work
out, I go run for 20 minutes,
448
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Taekwondo, whatever.
And then I sit down I write
449
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again because those workouts My
body was getting fully
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actualized for the day.
My mind was processing, the
451
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stuff that had just read in.
Typically I'm listening to
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podcasts or audiobooks or
whatever when I'm working out.
453
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So I now have all this stuff
that jumbled around there was
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working out and ready to then
write for another 20-30 minutes.
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And so I start that day at 4:15
in the morning so my 5:30 I've
456
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already accomplished enough to
set up my day that if my day
457
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ended right there, it would have
been pretty productive already.
458
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And this is before anybody else
is there to help sit up.
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Yeah.
And I want to thank you, first
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of all, for sharing with us,
your diagnosis.
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Because I think that when people
think about ADHD, they think
462
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about things that might be
distractions, any think like,
463
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oh, if I'm on a path and then
all of a sudden, something else
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happens, then it kind of blows
up the day and they and they get
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off track.
But in your being able to be
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disciplined and recognizing your
ADHD, and taking that to a place
467
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where You're able to have it
stack, you're able to really
468
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create functionality and all of
these things that you love to do
469
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and compress the time and what
you're doing it, because you're
470
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not messing around and doing all
these things that are weight,
471
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quota quit wasting time, it
becomes extremely productive and
472
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useful for you.
I also use a lot of techniques
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that I've learned over time.
So for example, I completely
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turn off the phone.
So like now my phone can't even
475
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rang to disturb us because it's
turned off completely.
476
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You know what, the world's not
going to end in the our
477
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conversation that were having If
it does so be it.
478
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Yeah, so it's not going to be
fatal during that time if I'm
479
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going to work on a task but
whether it's writing or taking
480
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care of some marketing things
all set a timer for 15 to 25
481
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minutes.
It's called the Pomodoro method
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and just hammer away.
On if I'm writing, I don't need
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internet to research stuff.
I literally turn the internet
484
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off while go into a different
room and completely Focus.
485
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So I'll be in a bare room so
there's nothing there too.
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Stratton.
Now, am I going to try and do
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that for three hours?
No, because I know my
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limitations, which is why things
that you learn over time but any
489
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one of us can do things for
10-15 minutes.
490
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You just fly all out and get
hammer away.
491
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Then you get up and you do
something else and bicycling,
492
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that way going from task to task
to task, you can actually
493
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accomplish a lot of different
things.
494
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:06,600
Now, there's something called
switching friction, you know,
495
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the trick, the cost of mentally.
Shifting gears from X Y, but I
496
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shift very quickly because of
the ADHD so I can go do, do do,
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do, do, do and just you go
through serial tasks quickly and
498
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then, you know, I do multitask
like a madman.
499
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So if I'm making dinner I'm
listening to a podcast also.
500
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Supervising the kids getting
their homework done know, if I'm
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working out, I'm listening to
something and I stopped every,
502
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you know, 10 minutes while I'm
running to take a note or write
503
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something down, you just because
my mind still processing.
504
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:42,800
I wasn't I Our poems, and the
basis of multiple articles,
505
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while on a 5-mile run all the
time.
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So then I just give myself a
voice memo or whatever and keep
507
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going.
And so, capturing like that
508
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allows us to then be able to
come back around and process as
509
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appropriate.
So people should keep like a pad
510
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by their bed.
Wake up.
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You have an idea.
You just write it down and roll
512
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back over and go to sleep.
If they're in the morning it's
513
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not lost in The Ether so that
you can move on forward.
514
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,300
So these are strategies that
That I have learned over time.
515
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:14,700
And one of the things that I
found, because as we talked
516
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about previously, I've got to
special needs kids ones.
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That Asperger's ones autistic is
reaching out to other members of
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the autism Community to find
strategies that they have found
519
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:29,800
have worked with their kids.
So one thing that I actually
520
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done to myself is something I
learned for using with my son,
521
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if he's having a really bad day,
like you just got up on the
522
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,500
wrong side of bed, things are
not going, right?
523
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:39,800
I'm like, buddy, we're We're
hitting the reset button,
524
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literally hit the button, I
bring them back up into his
525
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room.
We take his glasses off, we put
526
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them on the nightstand, I tuck
them in.
527
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,600
I swaddle them tight like you do
a baby because Ava autistic kid
528
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like that pressure and my kids
still wears a mask because he
529
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enjoys it so you just turn it on
by turn out the way.
530
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,700
I'm like all right good night
walk out.
531
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:02,400
I come back in about five
minutes later and I wake him up
532
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,400
again as if it's a brand new day
and about 50 to 60 percent of
533
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200
the time it works.
Tell them to completely reset.
534
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000
So why don't we?
As big people do that, you know
535
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200
what?
If you're being cranky, SOB,
536
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,200
turn out the lights, take a
five-minute power now.
537
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,500
Reset your day, like that
everybody around, you will be
538
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,800
happy that you did.
Mmm.
539
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,300
Yeah, that's amazing.
And I love the concepts that you
540
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:29,400
were just talking about of like
making sure that the things that
541
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000
could potentially distract you
or derail your day, are not
542
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000
within your limitations, we're
not within even your reach or
543
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your grasp.
And so, you know, Turning off
544
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the computer, you're turning off
the internet, you're turning off
545
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your phone.
You're making sure that those
546
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aren't even available to you.
I kind of liken it to the idea
547
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,200
or the concept of vampire
energy.
548
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600
They say, you know, when you
keep things plugged in, then
549
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,700
there's still sapping energy.
And so even like keeping a phone
550
00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:55,400
near you that could go off and
that you might hear rang.
551
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,100
I mean, your attention
automatically goes to that if
552
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,600
you don't necessarily just shut
it down and remove that
553
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,900
distraction from your vicinity
and yeah.
554
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,300
And I think it's actually a
pretty valuable tool that other
555
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,900
People can probably employ
pretty easily if they have the
556
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,700
discipline to do it, right?
And so, one of the things is
557
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,300
that if you set up the
environment, you actually remove
558
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:21,300
the necessity of discipline is
discipline means that I need to
559
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:25,300
physically choose to do this,
but if that, this other thing is
560
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,500
not even an option, it's
completely off the plate.
561
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,900
Off the table, you can't spend
any NGO.
562
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,700
So going back to Steve Jobs,
Steve Jobs wear the same outfit
563
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,900
every single day.
He had different Verizon at the
564
00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:37,700
black turtleneck, had the black
jeans.
565
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
And why Because that way,
expended no mental energy.
566
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,300
I so it's literally just grab it
go.
567
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
I have, I think, one or two
shirts total dress shirts.
568
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,500
They're not white dress.
Shirts, blue, suits, black
569
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,900
suits.
I now have a gray suit, you
570
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,300
know, white shirts ties with
blue and them ties with black in
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them pies with gray in them.
So, it's literally, I can grab
572
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any of it.
And I even after thinking, just
573
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,100
go and so that, then freeze up
mental bandwidth.
574
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,400
Every person has seven plus, or
minus two mental channels that
575
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:12,100
We can utilize any one point.
And so like if you have three,
576
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,700
kids guess what?
Typically, your kids are taking
577
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:15,500
up three of them.
Unless, you know, they're off at
578
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,500
school or whatever, they're off
at camp and so you can shut
579
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,200
those down, okay, we're worried
about work or worried about your
580
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,300
significant other, so it
overwhelms us.
581
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,700
So being able to literally lay
out and have something out.
582
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,800
Buddy else, take those
components.
583
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,900
This is why financial advisors
say I'm going to be your family
584
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,200
CFO and they take the worry in
the responsibility away for
585
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
that.
This is why You Outsource and
586
00:31:39,808 --> 00:31:44,600
I'll always mentally and allows
you to then have more capacity
587
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,800
to focus on what you're doing.
So if you send the kids to their
588
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
grandparents, for a couple of
days, you're able to be that
589
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800
much more productive because you
don't have the worry of what's
590
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,300
this kid doing.
Hey, it's too quiet in the house
591
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:58,800
right now.
They're up to something.
592
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,100
You know, so it allows you to as
my son's, taekwondo Master says,
593
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,600
focus and finish.
I love that concept.
594
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200
Focus and finish.
What about Out for the people
595
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
who are just natural born
worriers, or they start to
596
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,500
ruminate and think I do have
some friends who are also ADHD
597
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,300
and they may be on the spectrum
and their mind continues to play
598
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,300
these mental gymnastics on them.
Even if something is not in the
599
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,800
room or they don't necessarily
have to worry about it.
600
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:29,300
It's the, it's almost like the
the complexity of choice, even
601
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,700
if they have two choices,
they'll worry about making the
602
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,600
wrong decision.
And so they'll just contemplate
603
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,500
that for the longest period of
time.
604
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:40,100
And so we you know it's like
What would you say go?
605
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,100
There's a couple of things that
we can do and that's really
606
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
anxiety getting into play in
some ways.
607
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,900
So one of the things, it's like
you said it's just do it.
608
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,700
So if you can't make the
decision between two things and
609
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,400
you thought about and thought
about flip a coin heads, you
610
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,900
know, first one Tails second
one.
611
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,200
As you flip it, you're going to
find that you're rooting for one
612
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,900
side.
So the flipping of the coin is
613
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,700
not the decision maker, the
flipping of the coordinate
614
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:08,300
forces you into revealing, which
decision, you transgender.
615
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Truly want they so heads, we do
exhales, we do I come on heads,
616
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,400
okay?
Well that's why I really want,
617
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,600
that's why I need to do, okay?
So it's really almost like the
618
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,300
exogenous event that forces you
to make the decision.
619
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,400
That's what flipping the coin is
in some ways.
620
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,500
Another thing is be like,
Star-Lord, have 12% of the plant
621
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,800
because the plans going to
change as Mike.
622
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Tyson says, Everybody's Got A
Plan until they get punched in
623
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200
the face.
Anybody who's going on a long
624
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,600
road trip knows there's
construction.
625
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,500
There's detours as all this
stuff.
626
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,400
So have the preliminary They're
a part of a plan and just start
627
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000
going understanding that you're
going to figure it out.
628
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Understand that.
Okay, when I reach here, I'll
629
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,700
have, I'll figure out the next
couple of steps from there.
630
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,700
So instead of looking at this
huge thing, I need to go from
631
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,600
here to here.
This is how I break down
632
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,700
ultramarathons you know just
even thinking of doing 100 km is
633
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,300
overwhelming.
I can do five kilometers, I can
634
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,000
do a kilometer, I can go from
here to that corner.
635
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,900
That's not a big deal.
I'll just go to that corner and
636
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:06,500
I'll figure out where I'm going
from there.
637
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,300
And then another one, no one and
all Son, you realize that you've
638
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:15,000
done 35 miles and so that's
another way to be able to get
639
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,199
through it.
Another thing for people who are
640
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,800
really, anxious is write it
down, because you're anxious
641
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,600
because it's all rallying around
your head.
642
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,100
Why told you about writing down
my couple of key things, I need
643
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,199
to accomplish, I write them down
and then I don't worry as I
644
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,400
knock him off the list.
Like okay, awesome awesome.
645
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,199
Alright, although I'm in the
bonus round and then I can sit
646
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:37,100
and think for a couple minutes
about Waters the next group of
647
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,100
things that I should do.
And to make sure that I don't
648
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:44,500
get overwhelmed by any of it
because instead of trying to
649
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,400
focus on everything, which
allows you to focus on nothing
650
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,199
and just be completely
overwhelmed, you focus on a
651
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,699
couple of things, get them taken
care of, and then you can
652
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:56,800
re-evaluate and focus on the
next tier.
653
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,700
Thanks again, coming back to
what is taekwondo Master said,
654
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,800
focus and finish for them.
It's focusing on finishing.
655
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,800
Yo doing this technique 10 times
or, you know, finish on your 10
656
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,900
push-ups or what have you In the
business world where we're
657
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,500
juggling all these different
balls.
658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,500
Its focus on, getting these
couple of things done, don't
659
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,300
worry about anything else.
Take care of those then
660
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:21,100
re-evaluate move forward and
that's how you can make
661
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:24,800
consistent steady progress, even
in a chaotic environment.
662
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,300
Yeah.
Now, you had mentioned, why take
663
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:29,600
the hard path as opposed to the
easy one?
664
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,200
So I was hoping that you'd speak
to that, okay?
665
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,600
And here's the thing.
In every situation, we have a
666
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,000
choice, we make a decision.
And if you break it down all
667
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,400
decisions.
Come into basically two critical
668
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,800
paths.
There is, what is easy in the
669
00:35:45,808 --> 00:35:47,900
moment going?
What feels good.
670
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,400
I'm going to eat this donut
instead of having this out.
671
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,300
I'm going to take the drag on
this cigarette instead of not
672
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,100
doing it.
I'm going to play video games
673
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,000
instead of studying for my test.
I'm not going to have that
674
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,100
difficult conversation with my
crush.
675
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,900
We're just going to, you know,
ignore this for now.
676
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,400
And when you do what feels good
in the moment to avoid the more
677
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,800
difficult thing.
NG what ends up happening is.
678
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,100
Yeah, you feel good.
But it's like putting a Band-Aid
679
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:16,300
on a bullet wound or, you know,
getting that Quick Fix, You
680
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,400
know, it makes you feel good in
the moment.
681
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,300
But, at least something slightly
worse.
682
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,800
And then something slightly
works.
683
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,400
So if I continuously eat the
doughnuts, guess what?
684
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,500
I'm gonna have diabetes in my
pants aren't going to fit.
685
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:28,600
I'm going to have trouble
getting out of bed and all that
686
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800
and nine out of ten leading
cause of death in the United
687
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400
States.
Our lifestyle diseases from at
688
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200
taking that easy choice, that
feels good in the moment, okay.
689
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,500
Instead of taking that Easy
Choice, the other group of
690
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,600
choices is the harder Choice
from a chemistry point of view,
691
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
there's higher activation
energy, it takes more work, you
692
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,400
know, that's going and getting
off the couch and running five
693
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,500
kilometers.
Instead of saying they're eating
694
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:57,000
Cheetos, watching The Bachelor,
it is cracking the book and
695
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,500
studying so I get a better
grade.
696
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,300
So I get a better job as opposed
to saying there and Dorking
697
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:07,100
around having fun in the moment
and not having a good career.
698
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:11,800
It is the difficult discussion
with the significant other which
699
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,800
means that you avoid the divorce
because you're doing the hard
700
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,900
work on your relationship.
It is, you know, going for the
701
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,400
run in the rain.
I hate running in the rain.
702
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,900
And yet, I do a regular basis
and why I'm getting out ready to
703
00:37:25,908 --> 00:37:29,200
go on out, I'm like, all right
this is going to suck.
704
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:31,300
I'm going to get the sloggy
feed, the winds going to be in
705
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:32,600
my face.
It's going to be horrible.
706
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
It's going to take two days for
those shoes to try out the
707
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,400
progress.
Stink.
708
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
You know, I'm gonna get Squishy
feet.
709
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,600
Gonna be cold, this is going to
be not fun at all, but if I do
710
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,500
it, I have greater reserves.
I do difficult things.
711
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,000
And so it makes me stronger, it
makes things easier overall.
712
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,700
If I choose to do the thing, I
don't want to do that's more
713
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,400
difficult now.
It actually leads to the easier
714
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,300
path in life and so we can take
the road of convenience or we
715
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,700
can take the road of Excellence.
Mmm, well, that's beautiful.
716
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,300
I also want to just match that
up to the The stoics point of
717
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:13,000
view or two, if you could even
call it like a Buddhist flow
718
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,600
point of view which is more
about the relinquishing of
719
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,500
suffering by changing your
mindset towards those things,
720
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:21,800
which would otherwise, cause you
suffering.
721
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,300
And so that's another way of
looking at it.
722
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,500
Because yeah, the do not all of
the things that are like more of
723
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:31,500
the lazy choices might be in
flow with a certain mindset, but
724
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:36,100
if you're able to level up, or
shift your mindset to know that
725
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,600
doing that is creating some Sort
of coping mechanism on to
726
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,700
itself.
And if you look beyond that to
727
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,000
look at the longer term prize,
then you realize that's really
728
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,900
what I want.
That's why I'm going to get up.
729
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:50,900
That's why I'm going to run,
that's why I'm going to do this
730
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,800
in the rain.
And I actually enjoy it because
731
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
I know that it's going to be
more fulfilling as I'm doing it
732
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
in doing something.
That's very challenging or you
733
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
know what the prize is going to
be at the end of the road and I
734
00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:06,500
love how you brought up both the
stoics and Buddhism because they
735
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:10,400
are so related, a lot of ways.
Ways in that learn to love the
736
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,400
process instead of, you know,
trying to work to get that BMW
737
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,500
fall in love with the process of
working, like a martial artist,
738
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,100
like, you know, you know, you
carry water chop wood.
739
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:25,100
So you're in the moment and
enjoying it and what Jack
740
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,300
LaLanne said years and years
ago, the fitness girl was they
741
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,900
if you learn to love a pepper as
much as a chocolate bar, you're
742
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,100
going to have a much better life
and so, you know, yeah I
743
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,200
occasionally have the donut and
splurge and all that.
744
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,400
Healthy and I enjoy it.
I don't need the big house.
745
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,700
You know, I've got my training
Hall down in the basement.
746
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,300
I've got enough room for stuff,
I can go buy a sports car.
747
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,900
Why do I need one?
You know, so it's being content
748
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,800
with what you have or it's not
being content, it's being happy,
749
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,600
but, never content, I can
improve, but I'm improving me.
750
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:04,300
I'm not trying to get a bigger
office or get a faster car or,
751
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:08,000
you know more.
I'm trying to become more, and
752
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400
if you You can do that, then you
always have enough.
753
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,200
Exactly, I'm so glad that you
also brought that up to, because
754
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,800
there is a difference between
being content and being happy
755
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,900
because being content could mean
complacency and that's not
756
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,700
necessarily what this is about.
It's really about being
757
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:29,000
satisfied with what you have,
where you are in the moment,
758
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,800
enjoying all of those
experiences and being eager for
759
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,000
more, being looking forward to
that Improvement, that you are,
760
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,900
continuously making in yourself
each.
761
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:42,200
And Yeah, one of my friends, put
it as I am enough.
762
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,800
I'm good enough by can always be
better.
763
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,700
Exactly that's exactly right.
And I think that's a good Mantra
764
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:54,500
to live by for you know as the
Stockdale Paradox says embrace
765
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,100
the bitter truth but never give
up hope you know assess who you
766
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,500
are understand where your
shortfalls in your strengths and
767
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,000
all that and be ready to work on
making yourself better.
768
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,900
Not because of Any external
thing any drive like that?
769
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,200
But because working on yourself,
if you're doing it will give you
770
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,100
something that you can always
focus on.
771
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:23,100
You can always make tiny
improvements and you can see the
772
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:26,400
results.
And when you're doing that, you
773
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,800
become more joyful overall and
that has all sorts of benefits.
774
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,700
Psychologically,
relationship-wise translates
775
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:38,100
into what we do for work
health-wise.
776
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,600
It will extend your longevity
and so making yourself your
777
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,900
task.
Your greatest Masterpiece is
778
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:50,100
going to have all sorts of
wonderful results and it becomes
779
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,500
highly attractive.
Other people with that growth
780
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:57,300
oriented mindset, see you and
will want to be around you and
781
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,800
you'll be around like-minded.
People that want to see the best
782
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,500
in you the best out of you.
Yeah.
783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,600
You'll find your tribe by law of
attraction.
784
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,400
Exactly.
I actually want to go back to
785
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,100
your early days.
Because as you mentioned, when
786
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,500
you were 10 years old, you had a
near-death experience and nde
787
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,700
and I wasn't near death.
I was dead.
788
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:19,800
You were dead.
Okay?
789
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800
So I like that Dad.
You were dead.
790
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,700
Can you tell us about that
experience?
791
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,500
Sure.
So being severely, asthmatic.
792
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,800
The back in the 1970s, we didn't
have the puffers that everyone
793
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,900
does now.
So basically, you'd go to the
794
00:42:32,908 --> 00:42:35,500
doctor and you get dry Nolan, go
to the hospital.
795
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,500
You be stuck in an oxygen tent
and all this sort Stop.
796
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,100
So I was 10 years old, I was
having an asthma attack.
797
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:46,900
My mom brought meat stock Marie.
I'm lying there on the table and
798
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:52,200
I was scrawny scrawny kid.
Can barely be that Mike and all
799
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,400
the sudden I could, you know, I
didn't have that tightness
800
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,900
weightless, I'm floating on up.
There's lots of light, I'm
801
00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,500
looking down.
See my mom?
802
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,800
She's freaking out, obviously,
dr.
803
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,300
Murray certainly looks like an
octopus.
804
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,900
He's got all these extra arms.
He's try and do stuff.
805
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
And I hear the Big D.
Deep voice like James Earl
806
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,300
Jones, not yet Time.
Boom.
807
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,000
All the sudden I'm back down my
body again and you know I'm
808
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600
finally able to get a little air
and then they take me over the
809
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
hospital put me in the oxygen
tent and from that day forward
810
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600
I've been like this.
So you attribute the way that
811
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,300
you are to essentially that
particular period of time.
812
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:34,500
That particular instance I've
always been high energy but from
813
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,100
that point forward it's been not
even a conscious choice.
814
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:44,900
It's been just who I am to not
screw around to not waste time
815
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,300
to maximize.
I mean, my I went and saw one of
816
00:43:48,308 --> 00:43:52,400
my friends this weekend and her
boys, my nephews and all that
817
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,300
and literally she's like, you
don't stop.
818
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Even when you're relaxing,
you're running Ultra marathons
819
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,700
or you're helping other people
out.
820
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,500
It's like that's just the way
that I am.
821
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:05,700
And so my life is filled with
you stress as opposed to
822
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,900
distress so you stress is
Exciting it re-energizes.
823
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,200
So I do a lot of very intense
thinking and mental energy and
824
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,200
writing for work, but then I
balance it by going and doing
825
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,500
something very hard physically
doing emotionally challenging
826
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:23,800
stuff.
So by this constant, shifting of
827
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,900
gears and essentially using
different mindsets and skill
828
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,400
sets and muscles was mental and
physical.
829
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,900
You know, it's allowing the
other ones to rest.
830
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,900
And so, one of the things I
recommend people is, if you got
831
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,900
a very physically intense job,
Your relaxation do something,
832
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,000
very mentally Intense or
emotionally.
833
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,600
And if you got a very mentally
intense job, like an attorney
834
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,700
from your scientist, things like
that.
835
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,400
That's when you go do something
incredibly physical to offset it
836
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,500
and so it becomes almost like
active meditational, always
837
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,500
allows your subconscious to
process, what you have been
838
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,500
working on and relax and
recover.
839
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:07,200
So once that situation had
occurred, did you sense that
840
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400
there?
Was any essence of like newly
841
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,100
instilled purpose or something
that you almost would consider
842
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,000
like a Dharma, like the you are
here for a reason.
843
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,100
It's not your time because and
this is what you are meant to
844
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,900
accomplish.
Or this is what you're meant to
845
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:25,600
do, in order to fulfill out your
time here, on our, right.
846
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,500
And you have to remember I was
10 years old.
847
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,400
So what ten-year-old those what
they want to do with their life?
848
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:32,800
Right?
You know, I was put on this
849
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Earth to serve others and to
make other people better.
850
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:38,500
I'm going to make a difference.
My goal people have I want my
851
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,400
gold, the book and the book
actually is a subset of a bigger
852
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,700
picture is that I want to be
able to reach and help impact
853
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,300
100 million people this year.
Whether it's through podcasts,
854
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,600
like this articles, diorite TV,
appearances, radio, appearances,
855
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,000
people actually get the book,
you know, service speeches,
856
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,700
training individuals.
If I can reach 100 million
857
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:04,200
people and help improve their
lives, they become little nodes
858
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,600
that are then transmitting out
to other people in their
859
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,100
community.
He's and their families and
860
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,900
their businesses.
And so, if I can directly impact
861
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,400
100 million, we can probably
reach billion plus people and
862
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,900
improve their lives.
That's something worth working
863
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,100
towards that as an awesome btech
bi big hairy audacious goal.
864
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,000
This is gold.
Yeah.
865
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:30,000
And so you know we are going
through some unprecedented times
866
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,200
right now.
Well it's just like the antonine
867
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,900
plague back in.
You know you think Marcus
868
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,000
Aurelius just like the 1970s all
over again?
869
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,500
In a lot of ways.
So you know what we've done
870
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:43,900
here.
We've done that yet.
871
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,500
I find that interestingly
enough.
872
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:50,800
We still haven't really learned
how to manage ourselves through
873
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
some of these, you know, Global
situations.
874
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,900
Whether it be a pandemic of
disease or whether it be a
875
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:03,100
pandemic of racism or whether it
be a pandemic of intolerance of
876
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,500
any kind.
What would you were still
877
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,700
stupid?
The unfortunately, we are still
878
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:11,000
big dumb animals in a lot of
ways.
879
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:17,200
We are naturally attracted to
individuals like us because is
880
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,700
subconscious makes us feel more
comfortable.
881
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,100
And really we need to remember
that.
882
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,700
What genetically separates you
from me?
883
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,500
Is almost nothing.
And so the anecdote to fear is
884
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:33,900
exposure.
If you got fear of spiders you
885
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:35,900
know what do we need to do?
We need to look at pictures of
886
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,000
spiders and then be in the same
room with a spy.
887
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,900
And get close to a spider and
you not freak out.
888
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:45,500
If you've got a fear of somebody
who looks different, we need to
889
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,700
have you communicate with them.
We need to have.
890
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,300
You talked to him, we need you
them to understand.
891
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,400
We're all humans, and we have
more alike than what separates
892
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,200
them.
And maybe it's because I grew up
893
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,900
Community, where we were all
relatively not, well, off
894
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,600
financially.
So it didn't matter your skin
895
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,700
color, or your race, or anything
else.
896
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:11,200
We were just all people and you
know, my best friend, it was
897
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,400
originally from Vietnam.
I mean her dad was a major in
898
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,600
the South Vietnamese Army and so
my sister, my favorite sister
899
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200
who I talk to every single day
you know and her dad loved me,
900
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200
more than he loves her and my
mom always loved.
901
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200
See, I'm when she loved me and
so that's just the way it is.
902
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,500
That's my sister, okay.
And her kid brother is my
903
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:37,200
brother so it doesn't matter.
Yo what color hair somebody has
904
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
or how much melon An engineer
system or the shape of their
905
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,900
eyes, or he'll, if somebody's
Buddhist and somebody's
906
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,800
Catholic, or what have you in
the end, we are still humans.
907
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,200
We are all brothers and sisters,
and cousins that works and so
908
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:54,000
deal with it open up.
Learn from each other.
909
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Yeah, and my Dharma is, it's the
human Beauty movement and
910
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,800
bringing people together.
And the thing that I always am
911
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,900
pondering is the concept of the
algorithm and the fact that, you
912
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,800
know, there is this concept of
in the end it's always a
913
00:49:06,808 --> 00:49:08,800
two-horse race.
It's always the US versus them.
914
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,100
It's always black versus white,
it's always good versus evil.
915
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,000
It's always a journey of the or
of the oars.
916
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,300
And unfortunately, what happens
with the, you know, the power of
917
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,500
the algorithm, it's like it's
creating polarity, it creates a
918
00:49:20,508 --> 00:49:24,500
divide and it creates a stance
in which like we are always
919
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:26,300
going to be right?
No, we are always going to be
920
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:27,800
right?
And then the two are never going
921
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,900
to agree.
So how do we from a poetic
922
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:35,000
philosophical or physical
physics Way?
923
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,500
Start thinking about the
solution to Bringing People
924
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:43,200
together as so it's not a binary
solution which is how everybody
925
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,900
looks at things either 1 or 0 K.
If you look visible light is a
926
00:49:47,908 --> 00:49:52,500
spectrum going from five hundred
and twenty nanometers up to 700
927
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,800
ish, okay?
And there's Shades, you can't
928
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,800
tell where orange ends and ride
begins.
929
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,700
Okay, so have this understanding
and have this perspective and
930
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,200
perception that, okay?
We're just seeing in slightly
931
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,400
different colors, but we're
looking at the same Nominal,
932
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,700
we're looking at these same
things.
933
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:14,000
Let's try and understand, and
I'm reference the tyranny of the
934
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,600
or as opposed to the beauty of
the and know we can be this and
935
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,400
this yo we can have Traditional
Values and allow people to be
936
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,600
human beings and be themselves.
Okay, so expanding our concept
937
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,300
and remembering in the end that
when the aliens come on down,
938
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,700
invade like an Independence Day.
Guess what?
939
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,900
It's US versus them.
It's not you versus me or
940
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:43,000
Inspiration.
It's, it's us against the
941
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,300
universe or us on the same team
to be able to make the world a
942
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:52,800
better place because that you
know, I'm right, you're wrong.
943
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,900
You're wrong.
I'm right, that dichotomy is
944
00:50:55,900 --> 00:51:01,200
based upon zero-sum game mindset
as opposed to having an
945
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600
abundance mentality.
And hey, let's work together.
946
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,200
You've got some ideas, I've got
some ideas, we're not going to
947
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,900
agree on everything.
We're not going to disagree.
948
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:11,700
On everything we've got this
Venn diagram of overlap of
949
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:13,600
concept.
Let's see what we can do
950
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,200
together to.
Then improve things because if
951
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,700
you, and I can sit down and swap
some ideas and work together, we
952
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,700
can expand the pie from 100 to
120.
953
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,200
And even if my share of it
becomes slightly smaller, I've
954
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,900
got a slightly smaller share of
a bigger portion and as such,
955
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:37,200
I'm still better off and there's
that, and then there's no longer
956
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,500
participating.
The social media and the
957
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,400
Instagram and Tick-Tock and say,
oh look at them, they're so
958
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
perfect.
They are, they've got no
959
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,700
worries.
I need to be just like them.
960
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,800
And, you know, fueling all this
anxiety and fear of missing out
961
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,500
and trying to be like the
Joneses since that's all
962
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:56,900
external.
And instead, Focus, internal
963
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,700
learn from other people.
Appreciate what they have.
964
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:06,100
Use them to inspire you, but not
become jealous and hateful over
965
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,300
it.
And then just become A better
966
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,400
version of you.
And if more people focused on
967
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,700
being the best version of them
that they could be, we'd be a
968
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:15,500
much better place.
Absolutely.
969
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,200
It all starts from the
individual and that's why I
970
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,500
believe in the power of touching
individuals and letting them see
971
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,200
their worth.
Letting them see their Divinity
972
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:29,700
from within so that there's less
of a tendency for comparison and
973
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:33,700
for resentment and for jealousy
because all of that like the
974
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:36,600
seeking of external validation,
external, validation is nice.
975
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,800
Everybody likes the complement
of Arse but it's not that you.
976
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,600
If you feed off in you need it.
If that is your existence then
977
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,300
you become a vampire.
You talk about energy, vampires
978
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,600
that becomes a psychic vampire,
that becomes ultimately the path
979
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,900
to narcissism and, you know,
there's nothing good that comes
980
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,200
out.
That's an extract of sort of
981
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,100
relationship as opposed to a
creative symbiotic where we can
982
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,400
make each other better.
Instead of I need to draw from
983
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,600
you.
Exactly.
984
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,300
Exactly.
Well, So you've had such words
985
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:13,200
of wisdom for us today.
I'm so glad that you came on as
986
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,300
a role models guest, thank you
for all your words, and here's
987
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,300
to changing the lives of 100
million people this year for
988
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:22,500
you.
I am rooting for you Jennifer.
989
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,100
Thank you.
This has been an absolute blast.
990
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,900
I learned a lot on better for
you.
991
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,300
Make me laugh and smile.
You improved my day.
992
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,900
Yeah, excellent and grow today.
Thank you so much.