Episode 52: Stephanie Jameson - What It Means to Be An Empath

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So, today, we are going to talk

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about being Being an empath.
My guest today is Stephanie

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Jameson, Stephanie is an
intuitive coach and author.

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Who helps empaths heal from
inner child, wounding, karmic,

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patterns, and condition beliefs,
that can hold them back her

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books.
The happy empaths workbook, and

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the happy empaths little book of
affirmations, are published by

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Simon & Schuster, and are
available now.

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Welcome Stephanie.
Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm so happy to have you here
now.

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First, I would love for you to
describe Our audience, what it

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means to be an empath.
Oh boy, there's so much around

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that.
There's so much energy around

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that basically impasse or just
people who are more sensitive to

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energy.
And they tend to take on energy

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of those around them.
They have their own intuitive

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knowing and then they tend to
take on the energy of the

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collective and then sometimes
because they're so sensitive and

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maybe suffer from not knowing
how to ground themselves.

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Energetically, they experience
burnout and so typically an

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empath is somebody who We're
talking about people Pleasers,

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we're talking about battling
some codependency Tendencies.

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I always like to describe them
as they're the ones who like to

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keep everyone happy, they like
to keep everyone.

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Happy, they're the ones who
people come to for advice now,

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the natural healers on this
planet.

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And so everyone who feels this
way to, they tend to be the ones

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who help other people all the
time.

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They're just the natural healers
on the planet.

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So highly empathic and empath
pretty much the same.

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It's just the impacts tend to
take on and That's other

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people's emotions and situations
as if it's their own.

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And so there's this fine line
there where they have to learn

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how to tune into their own
energy, and they have to learn

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how to tune into their own
vibration, and start learning

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how to decipher, what's mine and
what someone else has Impalas

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are incredibly intuitive.
So they're constantly picking up

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on everything else.
You need to know how to tune

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into their own energy.
Now when we hear somebody say,

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I'm an empathetic person, or I'm
an highly Pathetic person or I'm

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sensitive or, you know, I just
feel and I just sometimes people

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will say that and other people
will interpret that as your

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emotional or yet, you know,
you're highly sensitive or

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oversensitive.
Would that be accurate or

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inaccurate or yes?
And no, I feel like it depends

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on the situation of course, you
know, everybody has their

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wounding but one of the things
that I'm sure you're noticing on

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this planet is that there's a
lot of sensitive Souls who are

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showing up and that's because
highly empathic or empath people

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impacted.
As they're coming here and

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they've incarnated here to help
the planet wake up.

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And so I feel like when people
are either a triggered by the

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term and path or they need an
empath, and then path is just

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different.
It's because that person is

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supposed to be different.
They're teaching people how to

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get in tune with their heart
versus living in robot mode, all

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the time, right?
So if somebody's super emotional

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or somebody's go there just
emotional, that's probably

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somebody who hasn't learned how
to Anchor in their gifts yet or

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hasn't learned that they're
highly empathic.

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So they may Just be ungrounded
because everybody has a bio

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field and science, they called
it biofield and metaphysics we

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call an aura, right?
So if the highly empathic person

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is a people pleaser have.
Poor boundaries lack of

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self-love.
Don't know how sensitive they

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truly are was raised with
condition beliefs there or other

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biofilms, going to be
energetically out of whack.

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So maybe that's why they're
super emotional.

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If they just learned how to
ground their energy and come

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into a place of understanding
that this is something that they

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are and that they're dealing.
Sense of feeling is actually a

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beautiful gift, they just have
to learn how to ground their

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energy.
Maybe they wouldn't be so

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sensitive or I'm overly
emotional, you know.

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So there really is a difference
between an empowered and path

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and a disempowered in past just
like everyday people, right?

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And so, obviously I think that
any particular human who would

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say, well, I have a heart and I
care some people might consider

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themselves and paths but not
necessarily be like, as far on

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the empathetic scale or On the
empath scale as what you might

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be used to.
I like is there a dividing line

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is there a different way?
Yes, I definitely feel like

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especially with working.
I've worked with thousands of

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people now over the last five
years and I definitely feel like

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everybody has empathy.
You know, I really do and I just

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don't necessarily fit, there's
different types of impacts.

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There's intuitive empaths,
there's physical empaths there's

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intuitive dreamers.
There's so many different types

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of empathic people, and I feel
like each one of us has their

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own gifts, you know?
I'm an intuitive.

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Have I started out as an
intuitive dreamer.

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I used to have a really crazy
dreams growing up and all that

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stuff, and that kind of led me
into my mediumship abilities.

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But for me, it was more
Clairvoyant, tapping into my

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claircognizance, my
clairaudience, and then, you

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know, sensitives are very clear
sentient.

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It's called clear feeling.
They just feel, you know, and

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they may not necessarily be
knowing if it's theirs or if

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it's not there, they're just,
they're just feeling.

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So I feel like sometimes when
people say, oh well, they're

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just Overly sensitive or they're
just over it.

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No, they're feeling what a lot
of people just are refusing to

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feel for refusing to look at,
you know, as I was mentioning

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earlier, we live in a very
patriarchal society, that's

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driven by the head and not by
the heart and highly empathic

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people.
They may not necessarily have

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anyone else around them who
knows how to live from the

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heart, the way that they do so
they may not feel so secure and

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balanced in themselves.
Yeah, and a lot of times, it

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depends on the others that you
are around.

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And what their sensitivity or
lack of sensitivity shall I say

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maybe.
And so you may be feeling out of

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place, you may be like, oh my
gosh.

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Yeah, they are labeling me
overly, emotional, or overly

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sensitive.
But really, is there any such

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thing?
And isn't that just a judgment

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on somebody to say your to this?
You're too.

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That you're having your just
perfect to the way that you are

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and you are the way that you are
for a reason.

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And perhaps it's just the
environment or the people that

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might not necessarily.
And you as well as they could,

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if they were as sympathetic as
you are to understand them,

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right?
And I do feel like I meet a lot

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of empaths who are you know,
they were their heart on their

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sleeves they really do because
that's all that they've ever

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known but a lot of times you
know, like I said earlier the

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person who makes you feel
whoever's listening to this

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whoever is the person who truly
makes you feel and gets you back

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into your heart odds are they're
highly empathic, or they are an

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empath there in HSP.
They're highly sensitive person.

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They're just different.
And that's how imp abs are and

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with Mass Awakening that's
happening on this planet right

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now.
Heck, yeah.

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You're seeing this rise of
Highly empathic people because

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they're learning how to own
their power and their teaching

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other people how to do the same.
Now, earlier just a moment ago,

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you were talking about how
empaths could be challenged in

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that because they're taking on
all of these others feelings.

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They may get burnt out and so I
can recall a couple of years

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ago, I went to a conference
where the woman on the stage was

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literally pointing to
individuals in the Audience and

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saying you're an empath, you're
an impact cured.

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I can tell that you're an empath
and the reason why she felt that

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she could tell that they were M
passed, was because they had

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drooping shoulders.
They had bags under their eyes.

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They look like they hadn't slept
in a week.

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They were scraggly their hair
with scraggly.

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They just looked exhausted.
And so, to a certain degree,

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perhaps, she might have been
right.

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But, would you agree or
disagree?

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That there is a physical trait
that would associate all

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empaths.
So I would totally disagree.

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There's a physical But I will
say this, there is a difference

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between an empowered and path
and a disempowered empath.

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There really is.
And so a disempowered empath,

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maybe she was picking some
people out of the audience that

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again, where people Pleasers had
no boundaries but everyone

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else's stuff before.
There's you know, just wanted to

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keep the peace in the family or
over giving and some kind of

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away.
So naturally when we again we

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come back to this biofield
health when we're giving away

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our energy like that, what are
we going to do?

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We're going to start to slump
and it's going to Start to show,

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she could have been picking out
disempowered in pounds but

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empowered and pads are going to
be people who are out there

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owning their truth, knowing who
they are teaching people how to

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choose love over fear, teaching
people that your sensitivity is

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actually quite a superpower and
they're going to be encouraging

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you to make sure that you're
putting your needs first, you

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know, as somebody who
discovered, you know, later on

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in life how sensitive she was.
I have a daily regimen that I

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absolutely no doubt have to do
everyday.

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I have supplements.
I take I Aground, I Earth, you

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know, I only take on certain
amount of clients.

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I do group coaching, and it's
like, once my energy levels are

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met, my energy levels are met
and I know what that is.

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And so, I would encourage
anybody who feels this way,

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like, I am just utterly
exhausted.

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Look at yourself and ask
yourself, why, where are you not

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loving yourself?
Where are you, giving your

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energy away?
And how can you take that back?

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Because it will continue to
affect you until you find your

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balance, right?
Because I would think that it

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would be the natural proclivity
for an empath to In you giving

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giving giving it might be very
jarring for them to feel like,

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oh my gosh, it's against my
nature to actually care for

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myself.
First, it's against my nature to

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have boundaries because I'm so
used to pleasing others.

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It's just the way that I am
quite impressed.

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Yeah.
That comes from conditioning,

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that comes from a society, you
know we've all been brought up

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with this.
You don't give to yourself, you

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give to others first which to a
degree is.

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I feel toxic, okay.
Because how could you ever be

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the best version of yourself and
so you've been conditioned Look

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outside of yourself for the
answer all the time.

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So it is kind of odd for us in
the beginning to be like, oh

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well, wait self-care, isn't
selfish, right?

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And so there is a little bit of
unlearning and relearning, that

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happens.
I promise you, if you don't

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learn that and you are a highly
sensitive person, the universe

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will come in and divine
intervention will occur, you

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will get sick.
You'll have something happen to

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where the universe encourages
you to slow down and really look

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after yourself.
And that's kind of what happened

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to me.
I got sick Sick.

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And that's when I went through
my massive, Awakening and

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realized, oh, here I go.
I've been living for my head and

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not my heart.
Wow, I need a real shift here.

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Yeah, now from what you were
saying, and I do understand the

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nature of being an intuitive
empath, that there are people,

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that just literally can tell
what is going on inside,

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somebody else's mind, or be able
to relate to somebody.

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In that way, I do have friends
or acquaintances that I know who

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are physical and passes, well,
and they will take The pains or

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those feelings in the body, they
will literally somatically feel

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the same pains in the body.
Somebody else's feeling, who

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might be unwell as they might be
able to provide some healing in

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that way because of their
ability to relate in that

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fashion aside from that, what
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label and path.
Because I think that these days,

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a lot of people are like, oh my
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anxiety.
The fit, like everything that's

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happening.
The hear the news, they see

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what's going on in the world and
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they feel the stress they feel
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themselves and paths because of
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stress and strain and burnout
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what's going on in the world.
So what would be the delineation

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and the benefit of being able to
identify?

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Yes, I am an empath or I'm just
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really rough time right now.
It's really that right there and

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that's what I feel like I'm pads
are here to teach people as that

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we all our energy reader and if
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life.
Maybe you wouldn't be able to

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slow down, or maybe you wouldn't
have the conscious realization

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that you are energy and you have
a bio field that needs to be

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maintained and your feelings do
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So again, I truly feel like all
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Has the empath in me honors the
impact than you, right?

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Just because I have different
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that any of your empathic gifts
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So I don't really necessarily
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all.
If anything there's a real

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stigma.
Around the word empath, okay,

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right?
Yeah, that does make sense and

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it helps because I think that
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people to recognize their
emotions and their feelings and

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you're able as a coach to be
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And to be able to say, okay this
is where, you know, you're

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giving yourself to depletion
here is where, you know, your

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unwillingness to say no.
And to, you know, continue

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working yourself to the bone is
really not serving you in your

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health, or your Wellness or your
To thrive unto yourself, things

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like that.
And so you can help anybody

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whether you consider yourself an
empath or not to be able to

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identify where those limits are
so that you can maintain your

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sovereignty, and your health,
and your wellness, and your

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well-being.
And there's a real rise on this

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planet.
I'm sure you see it.

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Everyday and your interviews,
the divine feminine energy is

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rising and the divine feminine
is a heart and we have lived in

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like I was saying a very
patriarchal society and So as

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this divine feminine challenges
the Divine, masculine the head

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versus the heart.
People are going to be

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challenged to slow down and
honor.

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What it is that they're feeling
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Mhm.
Yeah, because when we think

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about the structure and the
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of power and control, which tend
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I want a Divine masculine
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more masculine and The Feminine
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considered divine feminine but
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that is chaos, you know, it's
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and then there's chaos and chaos
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of it.
And so, with that chaos, is this

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feeling of disorganization or
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up at that's part of creation.
It's part of that conflict in

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that almost the Big Bang.
If you will, that's going to

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catalyze into something
beautiful and you, how I can

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have one without the other.
It's like the masculine is the

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desert, the feminist, the ocean,
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You can't have one without the
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Yeah.
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Yep.
And it is that balance because

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we had swung so much into that
patriarchal society that we know

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of, it's like okay now we're
doing a correction, now we're

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rebalancing now.
People are remembering their

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nature and their grounding and
Awakening to, you know, this

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more Soulful kind of existence
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I would love to hear about

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your books because you have one
in particular which is the happy

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empaths more of a Book, right?
Can you tell us what that's

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about?
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fun one that one I had kind of
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I had some, the approach me and
say, what you write this and

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it's just a practical little
workbook for people who are

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sensitive to understand what
their gifts are, where they may

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be struggling.
We talked about everything from

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the type of impact you are
codependency.

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Healing, codependency
relationship issues.

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Tapping into your natural
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It's everything that somebody
who would consider Themselves

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sensitive to sit down and work
with and go.

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Oh wow!
It's me.

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Oh wow, that's me.
Oh wow.

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Okay yep.
I'm seeing this.

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And it goes it.
We really dive deep into what

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could be going on and why maybe
you have either dismissed your

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intuitive abilities or your
empathic abilities, or why

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they've been suppressed.
Okay, fantastic.

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And then, you also have another
book, which is almost like an

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oracle workbook, is it or a band
ever made?

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What is that?
Oh, it's called the happy and

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half little book of
affirmations, and it's just a

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little tiny book.
You carry around with you, for

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your mindset.
So one of the things that empath

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sensitives tend to struggle with
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because they do tend to take on
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And they do feel overwhelmed,
especially if they're

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disempowered fatigue, all that
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So they tend to as they're being
guided to make change, what do

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we all naturally do?
All that probably weren't go

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that this or they go to the
negatives, right?

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So that particular book is just
designed to where you open it up

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and there's a mantra for you and
a little something that kind of

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plays a role in the sink.
In a city of your Awakening

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past.
So instead of thinking that one

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thought now you can focus on
this particular Mantra and just

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like an oracle deck.
The messages are so on point

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with what you need to hear that
time and both of these books

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came from journaling when I
started my own Awakening

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process.
That's fantastic.

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Well, that's wonderful.
I'm so glad that those resources

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are available to anybody that
they might be able to you know,

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determine and almost like
self-diagnose, you know what's

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going on with?
But I do encourage everybody

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who's listening to take a look
at Stephanie's website.

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Stephanie's website is called
Divine Soul Journey dotnet.

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Take a look there, she offers
coaching Shoppers private

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sessions, she does Retreats.
There are many different things

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that you can tap into whatever
serves your needs.

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That would be really wonderful
for you to honor yourself and

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you know book a session
Stephanie.

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Thank you so much for your time
today.

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It was wonderful to have you on
the role model show.

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Thank you so much.
I appreciate you.