Episode 3: Dani Candray @alopeachia - Nothing to Hide

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Hello, beautiful humans.
Thank you so much for coming

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back to another episode of role
models.

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And I am thrilled to introduce
you to a special guest today.

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Her name is Danny can try
otherwise known as alopecia on

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Instagram.
Hello, hello.

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Danny.
It's so great to have you.

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Now I have been so enamored by
Danny's story.

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Because she has been such an
admirable advocate for the

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diagnosis of alopecia.
And so I would love for Danny to

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be able to tell her story on
when she was diagnosed and how

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it was like growing up and what
she's doing now.

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So, it's Andy, I'm going to turn
it over to you.

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Okay, hi everyone.
So I have alopecia areata,

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alopecia means hair loss but the
iata part is, what makes it

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autoimmune.
So what it is, is I have an

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autoimmune disease that causes
my hair to fall out and I've had

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it since I was two years old and
growing up.

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It was incredibly difficult
because I didn't understand it.

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I didn't know anyone who had it
and, you know, being so young.

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It's crazy.
Having your hair fall.

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I had a had a full head of hair
and then soon after it, just

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fell out and then I started
wearing wigs.

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So, I wore wigs for over a
decade and I really struggled

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with my alopecia, just did not
want to share it with people.

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I hid I hid it from the world,
any time it was brought up, I

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got very emotional.
Bend in 2013, I went to an LP

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shh conference.
My mom forced me to go.

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I was So, against it at the
time, I was only like 14 years

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old that she forced me to go to
this alopecia conference hosted

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by Naf, which stands for
National, alopecia areata

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foundation.
And it was an incredible

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experience, because imagine a
hotel filled with LPG, ins bunch

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of bald people.
I felt like at home, I ended up

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meeting one of my closest
friends to this day at that

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event.
And she was actually the one who

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encouraged me to go out that
day.

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Like, at the conference without
my wig.

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We did like a walk and advocacy
walk.

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With like, the whole group for
the conference.

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And so she was like, oh, like
I'm not gonna wear my wig, and

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so, I just decided, okay, I'm
not going to wear my either and

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that's what started all that
moment because that year, before

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sophomore year started, I took
my yearbook photo without my

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wig.
It was that was just, I remember

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just feeling so scared, but I
was really proud that I did that

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and that's what really
kick-started it.

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Yeah, and soon after for senior
year at this point, I was

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already involved with knife like
we were hosting dog.

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Her game events, you know, like
just like group stuff so I could

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hang out with other alopecia
hands and on Instagram, of

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course.
But senior year, I got my makeup

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done by a very popular, like IG
famous makeup artist for prom

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and the video that she took was
for Alopecia advocacy and that

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video blew up, it went viral and
that's when I had a platform I

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suddenly gained, like 10,000
followers in a couple of days.

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Yeah, it was insane and I was
like 17 years old.

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I like those not expecting it,
so like blow up like that.

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But that's what kind of started
my platform and I realized I can

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do something with this.
I can be the change, I want to

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see and that's what happened.
I love that story so much

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because it shows when a little
bit of Courage, it's just that

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moment of boldness.
Here, you are getting ready to

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celebrate your prom, you have
your makeup done.

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And that is the Catalyst, and
it's because people see you and

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sell Alright, you being you and
not being afraid and hiding

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behind a wig as you were saying
before, really, you just being

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your authentic self and look how
explosive that has that for

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sure.
And I mean, during that time, I

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was still wearing a wig mind
you, but I was just slowly

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during this point.
Like, in high school, I was just

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slowly getting used to talking
about Keisha and seeing like

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what I could do with it and a
few years after that, in 2018

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like a couple years after that,
I saw a casting an open casting

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for this summer.
Company, they're looking for

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models and at this point,
besides like, learning to accept

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my alopecia, I was learning to
accept my body, you know, was

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like weight fluctuations and
that type stuff.

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So my goal that year, my New
Year's resolution was to accept

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my body.
The way it was, you know, and

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take care of myself.
That was my goal.

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So, when I saw this casting
early, in the year, I wanted to

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do it even though I had no
modeling experience.

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I wanted to go to my mom, drove
me.

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And there was a lot of girls
there and I saw them.

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They, you could tell that they
were like established model.

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Al's.
So I didn't really think I had a

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chance of my file, but this is a
cool experience, like it was

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nice, being around all these
like fun girls with like bathing

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suits, got to talk to the
designer.

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And I didn't really think much
of them with this was fun, but I

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probably won't get it because
they were only picking like nine

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girls.
But then I got an email saying

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that I got it and that they
wanted me to be part of the

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shoot.
So that was my first modeling

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experience that I had done and
soon after it just it kind of

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just was a domino effect of
started doing a couple more

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Modeling jobs and then I got
signed with natural models,

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amazing.
Well, I want to go back because

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both times you had mentioned,
your mom and either she kind of

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nudged you to go to the
conference and she was

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supportive of you going to this
casting.

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I mean it sounds like she has
really been sort of the Wind

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Beneath Your Wings.
And a lot of this is that right?

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Yeah.
For sure like.

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I mean she forced me to go to
the conference.

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I did not want to go.
I remember like being a brat

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like a teenage Brad about it.
Like I don't want to go and like

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They have like a kids club there
and I want to go to the kids

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club.
I just want to stay with you

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Mom, and that she forced me to
go.

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I remember, being really upset
about it, but I'm happy that she

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did that and with the casting,
it was really funny because we

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were both there at the caste and
she saw the other models there.

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And she's like, you're probably
not going to get honestly,

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because there's a lot of girls,
I feel like, there's like, 300

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or 400 people at that casting.
So, Know what I mean?

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She was just trying to, like I
guess, be realistic with me, but

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overall, she's always been
supportive.

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She she wants me to do well and
succeed.

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And yeah, well, so you said that
like from an early age you were

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wearing wigs like when did you
start actually wearing wigs?

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Oh my God I started wearing wigs
in kindergarten really.

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I was recently going through my
mom's photos that she has and

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she was like this huge bucket
just with stacks of photos and I

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found My photo from first day of
kindergarten, and I had my hair

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like natural hair, curly black
hair, really thick like half up

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half down, it looks super cute,
but then I found the picture of

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my last day of kindergarten and
I was wearing a little little

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Bob wig.
Interesting.

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Yeah.
So yeah, that's when I started

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wearing the wig and then I
stopped wearing wigs in 2018,

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August 27th.
That's my ball.

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Diverse jury.
That did you gravitate towards a

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certain Style?
Flags while you had them.

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Yes, I love the bangs.
The just like super stick bangs

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though.
Yeah, I always wear wigs.

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But the thing is that like, I
love wigs.

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Don't get me wrong.
I think they're beautiful.

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And it's a fun way to
accessorize and change your

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look.
But it got to the point where I

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was dependent on them.
Like I felt like I needed this

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wig and I just didn't like that.
I realized I was using it as

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like a Band-Aid, but I had
become too.

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Pendant on it and honestly since
I've stopped wearing my wig,

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I've never felt more free and
there's no going back.

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Like I'll wear a wig maybe for a
few hours but I'm at the end of

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the day I'm just going to snatch
it off.

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Like I don't I don't want to
wear wigs anymore and I love

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that.
You mentioned that because I

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think that's an important thing
for our listeners and our

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viewers because it's a very
individual thing.

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They can bring so much joy and
pleasure and it's almost like

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fashion.
You can change your look and it

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cannot reading.
But when you realize that you're

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utilizing something and it could
Anything.

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It could be makeup, it could be,
it could be a wig.

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It could be, you know, brand
names, whatever it is if you're

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using it as something that is to
conceal or to hide your true

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self, if there's an insecurity
about kind of what you're

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feeling without it, then it's
interesting that you got to the

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place where you recognize that
and it was probably at that

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conference where you realized,
OK, there is this Reliance in

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this dependency.
I felt either ashamed or

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embarrassed without it, but now
it's liberating.

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It's something where I don't I
don't need it.

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I can use it if I want to it's
but, you know, I'm not dependent

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upon it anymore.
It's not something that I'm

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using in order to pretend that,
you know, I'm something else or

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that I, you know, that I'm
trying to relay something else

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then you know other than
confidence and love for myself.

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No, absolutely but no I wore the
wig years after that conference

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because that conference wasn't
that 2013 and I still I was okay

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with talking about alopecia but
I was still weird about it.

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Like I still wanted to wear my
wigs, but I mean, I'm here, like

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it took a while, but I felt when
I tell people there's people who

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who asked me like, how did you
stop wearing your wig?

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I want to, I get messages on
Instagram and honestly, I think

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it's just about being patient
with yourself.

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You can't rush it.
So many people would tell me how

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weak for you, no one cares, but
it's not about that, you know,

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like it's everyone has their own
Journey with alopecia and it

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happens to anyone at it can
happen to anyone at any age and,

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you know, you can't just rush
that type of stuff like I were

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weeks for over a decade before I
I stopped wearing them.

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Well, that's incredible.
This reminds me of when I was

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younger there, you know, in my
teens or 20s, I did some little

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modeling, but it was always, you
know, small little tiny things,

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very local things and I because
I'm only 52 because I'm Asian

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and normal weight, you know?
And so, to be a petite model

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that wants to make it anywhere
big at that time of life.

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You had to be real thin, you had
to just starve yourself and I

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remember them telling me, okay?
You need to drop 15 In pounds.

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And at the time, I was 103
pounds.

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You know, they wanted me like,
80 something pounds in order to

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even qualify.
And so I went through this

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period of eating disorders.
And so, you know, hearing things

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like that and thinking that,
that's what I have to live up

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to, in order to achieve what I
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You know, I considered a goal at
that particular time was not

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healthy.
It was mentally exhausting and

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it was something that in
hindsight it took me a while but

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I it's like I recognize this Is
not what beauty is about, like

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real true.
Beauty means you love yourself

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and you accept yourself and you
Embrace everything about

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yourself inside out, outside in
and you are on a journey and if

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you want to love yourself and
you're satisfied yourself, but

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you're eager for improvements
and you're eager for more.

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That's the best place to be.
So it doesn't mean just sit

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still and eat junk food, all
day.

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It means, you know that?
Yeah, I love myself but I'm on a

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journey of wellness and
well-being and and my mental

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health and my sanity and my love
for Health in every given moment

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is important along the way and
look what happened to you.

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It's like you go to this
casting.

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You don't think that you have a
chance, but there was something

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about you.
The fact that you were so

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authentically you and how you
showed up with your beautiful

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body, with all your curves, with
your bright smile, with this

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energy, that just exudes joy.
And I imagine that that probably

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showed through all of the
insecurities of those other

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people that were probably there
wishing and hoping Hoping that

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they looked or felt like
somebody else, and I can imagine

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that.
That's why the world is starting

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to change a lot of companies and
brands are starting to recognize

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this is worth celebrating,
right?

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This?
Absolutely, yeah.

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So tell us what you're up to
now, what does it say in the

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life of Danny can try to look
like, oh my gosh, right now I'm

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I started personal training so
that's what I've been really

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like focused on and I also work
besides modeling I work at a gym

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so I work with kids at the gym,
just fun.

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Yeah.
Like I'll usually just do my

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casting videos just stuff like
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That's fantastic.
So tell me what, it's like to

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personal train.
I mean I have been trained

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before and I get into beast mode
because I want to try to

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impress.
Yeah.

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At first it was really hard.
I like I felt a lot of anxiety

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going to the gym even though I
worked there I worked.

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At that gym.
But my trainer I just recently

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switched trainers but the
trainer had previously she was

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very much into like holistic
like functional training, that

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was her thing which I really
like that was different from all

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the other trainers.
She wasn't trying to promote

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supplements or anything like
that.

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She was very much like she would
talk about like child trauma.

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Like she was like she was a very
interesting trainer but she

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helped me out a lot.
Like very patient with me and

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help build up my confidence and
she left that gym but Since I'm

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with my new one, he's really
cool.

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And at this point I just feel
comfortable.

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He just helps me with my form
and I just feel good at the end

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of the training session.
That's what I want to do.

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I just want to feel good.
Did you have any particular role

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models of your own growing up?
Or do you have any now Role

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Models right now would be some
of the models that I follow on

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Instagram, like within my agency
and like, within other agencies

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I just love seeing them post,
you know, just being happy and

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like living their best life and,
you know, just not being ashamed

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of Themselves.
I really love that.

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What brings you Joy?
What do you love doing my guilty

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pleasure?
Right now is acai bowls every

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time after exercise session.
I feel the need to get in our

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site.
That's like my guilty pleasure,

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but my passion right now.
I'm so I feel like I'm still

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trying to figure it out.
But overall like my passion is

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out fuchsia advocacy and
honestly just normalizing

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alopecia in the media and I
honestly encourage girls to show

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off the alopecia if other girls
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that's fine.
Like there's room for all of us

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like I want to see more girls in
commercials and ads that have

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alopecia.
I just want to see it

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everywhere.
Hmm.

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Amazing.
Did you have to do you have

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siblings Brothers?
No, I'm an only child.

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You're an only child is there a
history of alopecia in the

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family from?
Generations past, I think my mom

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had mentioned that my dad may
have had it when he was younger,

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but his hair grew back.
And now I think he just like

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Jesus to be bald.
He just shaves it, but I'm not

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too sure about that.
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For the most part, I'm like the
only one in my family.

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It's amazing.
Because I remember a long time

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ago, I used to date only bald
guys can go on about my dating

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life, but, but I remember Mike
and it didn't even dawn on me.

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It was just like something.
I gravitated to for whatever

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reason.
And the one of my girlfriend,

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she was actually a colleague of
mine at work and one of the

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dudes actually came to pick me
up and go to lunch and when I

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came back she goes you like I'm
bald and I'm so sorry.

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I do look like bald people.
I feel like you're able to

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appreciate someone's features if
they don't have hair, you could

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see everything.
So maybe that's what it was.

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Yeah.
There was, there was something

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about it.
I don't know if it was just like

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an array.
Reverence or something.

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That was a little.
I don't know.

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I just found it sexy.
My aunt has said that before so

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I can make and sexy, I would
love to, you know, the recent

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situation with Will Smith, Jada,
Pinkett Smith.

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I was just curious about what
your take was on that and any

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positives that you could take
away from what had occurred.

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So with that event, I wasn't
watching it live.

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I had seen my I sent the link to
our family group chat was like

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oh my god look what happened and
as soon as I heard the joke from

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him, I cringed and then the
camera goes to her reaction and

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she was kind of like you could
tell she was just like annoyed

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by that and I'm not team.
Well, team Chris, I'm in this

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situation.
I'm team Jada and it's because I

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can relate to it completely even
though I'm at a point where I'm,

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I'm fine with my alopecia, I
accept it, that comment.

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It would not comment, wouldn't
bother me now.

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But looking back at hot, like my
journey that I went through,

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that comment would have probably
made me cry to be honest with

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you.
So I could see it in her face

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and I felt that there was a, I
felt like a nauseous feeling and

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I had actually posted on my
Instagram, cuz I have a lot of

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allocations at all of me.
Hey, did anyone else feel like

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sick to their stomach when they
saw the video?

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And so many majority said, yes.
And it was the comment was just

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unnecessary.
And I just feel like When it

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comes to jokes and last, he had
spoken to her before the events.

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In, hey, I'm gonna say this joke
or, you know, something like

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that.
Give her a heads up, ask her for

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permission.
It shouldn't have been said, I

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don't think someone's medical
condition, should be brought up

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as a joke.
Yeah, yeah.

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I think if you know, the Silver
Lining could be said about it.

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It's it has brought so much
awareness and the and the

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realization of the wrongness of
what has been done and I think

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that it will help to inform a
lot.

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Of Comedians and a lot of
individuals in the future who

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may think that it's just a
casual, you know, flip and

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statement that should be taken
lightly, but depending on where

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that person is in your journey
to your point.

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And granted, it's very difficult
to know how how confident people

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are in their Journey.
Perhaps Chris thought that Jada

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was at the place for example,
where you are in your journey,

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because she's been so open about
her advocacy and about her own

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story.
But even that said, it's

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interesting to shine a light, It
on the fact that.

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Yeah, it's a medical condition.
It really helps to define a line

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and start that conversation and
continue the conversation to

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inform behaviors and statements
in the future.

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Hopefully, that's the good side
of it, right?

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Everyone has their own
boundaries and I saw a lot of

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comments saying it's just a
joke.

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Like, wow, she can't take a joke
or and I just, I don't know.

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I just don't agree with that.
I just don't think that type of

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stuff should be joked about
whatsoever.

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And last person is okay with it.
For example, I Send means to my

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friends that are like bald
jokes.

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Like, you know what I mean?
Like, and people will send me

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bald memes, and I think they're
funny, like, I'm at that place,

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but back up was not at that
place, and it would have really

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bothered.
It would have broken me

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honestly.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I think that that's a really
valuable takeaway if we can

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appreciate other people and, and
understand.

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And listen, you know, I'm here
for you, rather than poking,

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unless you allow it yourself,
you're like, okay, I'm going to

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send this name because I think
it's hilarious and Other person

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recognized yes, you know, you're
in the same place then, okay,

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you're vibing the same.
Then it, then it becomes.

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All right, interesting.
So I learned a new word today,

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alopecia and it sounds like a
fascinating word.

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I want to join this Cloud
species.

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Like I like the Avatar movies
and I love that word.

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It's so cool.
When you're part of a community,

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tell me what it's like.
How has it continued and

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furthered your advocacy?
I love it, I love the Alpena

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Community.
I love being able to talk to

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them at any time I've hung out
with some, it's just crazy how

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our stories aligned like we all
experience different upbringings

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live in different cities
different states but at the end

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of the day we pretty much
experience have like a universal

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experience with alopecia so
that's very comforting and I

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just love that.
Yeah yeah.

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It's just nice being able to
keep In touch with the different

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people and I discovered that
Community when I was 14 15 years

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old, I just looked at the
hashtag, alopecia outpatient

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girl.
I'll patient model you know just

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trying to find not community and
I found it and I've met with

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alopecia who was from Sweden and
she came to California to hang

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out to visit for vacation and I
hung out with her one of the

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days, one from Australia, you
know?

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Like it's just crazy how we're
like able to connect.

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Yeah.
Everybody can connect the matter

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who you are, what territory or
from?

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It's so exciting.
Yeah, really makes the world a

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lot smaller and friendlier.
Hmm, tell me what it's like when

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you went on your first modeling
job.

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It was exciting.
I didn't really know what to

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expect.
I had shown up like, super

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early.
I think I showed up like we,

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like 30 or 40 minutes early.
So I was just sitting there for

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a while and it was just
interesting, like, The Stylist.

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They have to, like, lint brush
you.

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And then the like steam, you
really quick and they're

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constantly like, Having like I
wasn't I wasn't used to that and

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like something with like the
makeup artist, it was just a

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really cool experience.
Remember who it was for?

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It was for DSW Shoe Company.
Yeah, so it was fun and then the

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photos that they use, that was
used further like online email

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ads, they send out.
So my co-workers from the job I

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had at the time, I worked in an
office, they had shown me like

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this just popped up in my
emails.

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Like is this you Mike This is
exciting.

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Now also you were talking about
being a curvy girl and, you

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know, also embracing that aspect
of your of your embodiments, it

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hasn't been positive as far as
like, going to castings and

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doing work.
And, you know, feeling that

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you're okay with showing off
your curves, showing off your

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skin.
Yeah.

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It's honestly, I know that's not
the case for everyone.

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But so far in my modeling
Journey I've only experienced

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like Activity.
When it comes to like my body.

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For the most part, the clothes
always fit and I think I've only

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encountered a couple of times
where the clothes will you know,

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fit a little off but usually if
it's too big, they'll pin you

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and if it's too small, those
just give you something else.

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So it's never really been a big
deal but yeah, it's just been

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it's been really fun.
Definitely seems like a turning

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point when you were able to come
to the realization that this is

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me and I love me, you know, do
you have any positivity type

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exercises that you practice
everyday?

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Day.
I've been trying to get into the

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habit of journaling writing
down, you know, like I guess

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like affirmations.
But anytime my lately, what I've

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been trying to do, if I feel
like anxious or nervous about

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something, I just have to tell
myself like you're a bad, bitch,

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you're a bad girl, you know what
I mean?

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Like, I literally have to like,
tell myself, like, you're

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awesome.
Like, even if I don't feel it at

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that moment, I just have to
like, you know what I mean?

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Like, hype myself up on the
inside, otherwise, I'll be

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really sad, you know, and down
and feel like I can't do it.

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I can't go.
My day.

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So sometimes I have to do that.
I have to tell myself, like you

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can do this.
You got this, you're amazing.

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So that's about it.
But I would ideally like to get

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into the habit of like, you
know, consistently journaling or

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even like, meditating.
So many people have told me I

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should start meditating and I
just, I don't know.

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I haven't haven't been able to
get into it, it's definitely

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something that is a practice,
you know, just like in life,

447
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it's like, you know, it's easy
to just sit there and let your

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mind wander and then you have to
recognize.

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Oh my goodness, I'm not
meditating.

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Is that what I'm going to make
for dinner tonight, or something

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like that?
And so, yeah, coming back, is it

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definitely takes it, takes
practice.

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It takes time.
I vouched for it as well.

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I think it's an extremely
useful, practice get into to

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really dive even further into
knowing who you are and to be

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able to have more control of
things during the day.

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How about music?
Do you have like a playlist that

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you have some favorite artists,
or some lately?

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I've been obsessed with the
Hamilton.

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Watch Hamilton.
I went to see it when it came to

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LA, and I have watched it on
Disney plus as well.

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But yes, it brilliant,
brilliant.

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I'm obsessed with the, I think I
listened to it like, everyday,

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but besides that, when I'm not
listening to that, I mean in

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general, I love musical.
So I'll always be listening to

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hairspray Phantom and waitress.
I just love musicals, but

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usually I listen to like Queen
Bee Gees Earth winning Fire

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about like, I like my older
cousin.

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Hairspray is one of my all-time
favorites.

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I think I have probably watched
that one.

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A hundred at least a hundred
times that I just love music,

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amazing.
You know what it was when you

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were talking about getting
yourself motivated and say I'm a

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bad bitch like sometimes if I'm
going out for my morning run I

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00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,900
have to think about the Eminem
song, lose yourself or something

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00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:59,400
like that that's like yeah I can
beat my time.

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Yourself pumped up.
Well Danny, thank you so much

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for spending time with us today.
You are a role model and I am so

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excited to see you continue your
journey, thank you so much for

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having me and I invite everyone
to take a look at Danny on

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Instagram.
Her handle is alopecia and we'll

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see you next time.
Thanks very much.

483
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Hi, thank you.