Aug. 22, 2023
Episode 71: Elizabeth Kendig - How to 'Chase You' for Spiritual Awakening
Boss babe Elizabeth Kendig was a thriving retail, editorial, beauty, and publicity mogul who found her passion in spirituality. She co-authored Chase You to teach people how to connect with the Other Side to find the clarity and confidence to be themselves and live their purpose. In this episode, she talks with Jennifer Norman about Spirit Guides, intuition, meditation, and more.
Elizabeth's Links:
- Websites: https://www.chaseyou.org/ and https://healerswanted.com/about/
- Instagrams: https://www.instagram.com/chaseyoucrew/ and https://www.instagram.com/elizabeth.kendig/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kendig
The Human Beauty Movement Links:
- Official Website https://www.thehumanbeautymovement.com
- Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/thehumanbeautymovement
- Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thehumanbeautymovement
- Facebook https://www.facebook.com/thehumanbeautymovement
- Podcast https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-human-beauty-movement
- Twitter https://twitter.com/The__HBM
- TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@thehumanbeautymovement
- Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/thehumanbeautymovement
- YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thehumanbeautymovement
- LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-human-beauty-movement
Jennifer Norman Links:
- Lnk.Bio https://lnk.bio/iamjennnorman
- LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernorman
- Instagram https://www.instagram.com/iamjennnorman
- TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@iamjennnorman
- Facebook https://www.facebook.com/jennifertnorman
- Twitter https://twitter.com/iamjennnorman
- Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/iamjennnorman
- YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@iamjennnorman
- Medium https://jennifer-norman.medium.com/
Thank you for being a Beautiful Human.
Transcript
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Welcome to today's show,
Beautiful Humans.
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You know, I just love coming
across kick ass people who have
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built successful big careers and
then like me for one reason or
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another had this wake up call
which enabled them to happen to
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enhanced wisdom and
understanding.
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I'm a member of the Female
Founders Collective, which is an
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incredible network of women
identifying entrepreneurs.
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And I have good to hear about a
book called Chase You Co,
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written by my guest today,
Elizabeth Kendig.
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Now Elizabeth spent much of her
career in retail, editorial,
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beauty and publicity, and for
years she was a recognized
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editorial director.
She Co founded the awesome brand
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One Level Organics and she's
twice exited founder.
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So yeah, you could say that by
LinkedIn standards that she's
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been pretty successful.
But now, more recently,
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Elizabeth has discovered that
there's more to life than
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chasing physical success.
Inspired by her own
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transformation, she wrote.
Chase you to help others heal
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through the power of
spirituality.
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And I'm so excited to welcome
you, Elizabeth, to the show.
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Thank you so much for having me.
You nailed it.
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You can write my next bio.
All right.
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Well done, Well done.
Well, I have to say, I mean,
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it's pretty easy because you had
it going on.
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I mean, you were a magnet
editor.
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You say you were an accidental
influencer, which is always I'm
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using.
You've got to tell us about your
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storied career.
Yes, accidental influencer.
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Because I was one of those, sort
of, I hate to say, OG bloggers
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who was a journalist, who was a
magazine editor.
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And blogs were sort of like
cropping up.
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And I thought, well, I should
just try this as part of my
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professional experience and it's
just going to be a creative
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outlet.
And it took off.
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I did a lot of TV and radio.
I woke up one day and had, oh, a
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million Pinterest.
Followers and that just started
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ticking up.
And so these were the days of
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brand collaborations and I mean
they're still going on, but I
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really fell into it and had the
most incredible experience.
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And out of that started Co
founded 2 skin care lines and
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really got to live my very young
childhood dreams of working in
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the beauty space not only as a
writer but as a product
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developer and marketer.
And yeah, it was a dream come
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true.
So people always say, why would
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you stop doing that and?
At the same time, as an editor,
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I was getting to travel around
the world and locally experience
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so many beauty treatments.
And that sort of was a time when
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an acupuncture facial was like
on the fringe and no one was
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talking about Mercury
retrograde.
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And all of these sort of
holistic and metaphysical
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modalities started creeping into
my purview and my, like,
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personal interest.
And so I like to say that I went
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on a.
Virtual or self help Bender and
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came out on the other side just
with a new way of life, a new
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way of being.
I finally felt like I was meant
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to be here.
Like I wasn't an accident on the
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earth and meet a lot of sort of
recovering perfectionists and
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like highly ambitious people who
appear to have it all together
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but like still feel like they're
out of place walking the earth.
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Because, you know, we're
spiritual beings in physical
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bodies and as soon as I
connected with.
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These sort of spiritual healers
and guides on earth, I felt like
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something sort of clicked for
me, like I felt like I'd found
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my people and this connection to
the other side just made me feel
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whole and not alone.
And so that became a career
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transition, but also just part
of who I am today too, so I had
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to share it.
I mean, when you're a
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communicator, you just all you
want is to tell people what is
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available to them for support
and for healing.
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Sure.
Now I want to step back because
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you touched on the fact that
we're both from the beauty
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industry.
It's a glamorous life.
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You get to see and experience
the kind of lifestyle that a lot
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of women covet and they had
always wanted.
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And you feel like, yeah, do I
feel like I made it?
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But why is it that something's
still missing?
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Why is it that something still
feels like there's got to be
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more?
And you tell me about like what
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it is about hustle culture that
may have really been very
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seductive to a lot of women that
are now and.
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Then yeah, I can.
I'm such a great question and so
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timely too.
I think, because I'm hoping that
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hustle culture is on its way
out.
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We don't need it.
It's not working for us.
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We think it is.
I look back on those days and I
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worked 80 hours a week at times.
I had a fulltime job and I had a
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blog and a skin care line and I
was freelancing and I was
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soaking it all up and loving it.
But I think it's not because I
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was working so hard and
hustling, it's because I was
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very much in.
Flow with my purpose at the time
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so it didn't feel like work.
And that's one thing I want
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people to take away from this
book.
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When you're on mission, when
you're chasing you, it doesn't
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just happen and all fall into
place without any effort, but
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you don't ever feel like you're
hustling.
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The right people present
themselves the right
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opportunities, and you have all
the energy in the world to do
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what you're doing because you're
being true to yourself.
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Does that help?
Yeah, absolutely.
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I also feel like there's a lot
of people who may have in the
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past separate their careers and
what they're doing to make a
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living versus maybe what they're
doing in their personal lives in
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terms of spirituality or in the
past it was more religion based.
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I think in Western society there
was very much a difference like
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oh, you went to church or you
went to temple and only until,
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for example, I think that you're
a great example.
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Then you, you start coming
across these different kinds of
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healers that have always been
around since ancient culture,
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but just for some reason they
were always either ostracized or
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alienated, made it or felt like,
oh, there's not realness to what
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they're doing.
It's like voodoo magic or it's
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something that is not
necessarily for me, but only
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until we started saying, hey,
yoga is actually pretty
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beneficial or acupuncture.
You know, there's something to
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this or there's little by little
there's been this entry into
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Eastern or ancient modalities
that we're having this
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incredible wake up call.
And from your perspective, you
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actually met with Monica.
And I would love for you to tell
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us about Monica and her story
and how she's a healer and how
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she helped you to see to this
other side as well.
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Yeah, and I have so much heart
for these practitioners.
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And I remember 1015 years ago
when I started doing my own
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work, so many of them were not
in hiding but not very confident
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about putting themselves out
there.
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They were afraid of backlash.
It's become this healing space
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and the whether it's yoga or
whether it's tarot has become so
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much more accessible to.
People, I mean it's been rapid
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in many ways, but we still have
ways to go.
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So I know that's one of like my
missions in life is to make
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these modalities accessible to
people and bring these healing
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practitioners into the light
because they are purely here
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because they want to support and
serve the rest of us.
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So I'm so glad that you brought
that up and whether it starts
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with something that's science
backed or that your fitness
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studio and that feels familiar
and comfortable to you start
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there and I guarantee.
It'll be like a gateway drug to
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something else.
And soon you'll be like posting
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psychic parties like I did,
because it feels good, it feels
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good and it feels whole and it
feels like something that I
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think is familiar to all of us
at our core.
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But we just have been like
culturally sort of sanitized
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from these things that I think
we remember once we try them.
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So Monica Lawson is my
co-author.
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And she was sort of, I want to
say like almost at the tail end
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of this long journey that I had
been on, I had been working
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with.
For a number of years and a
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friend recommended her to me and
this is how so many healers come
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in to me as someone like passes
me the business.
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Part.
I mean that's when you pay
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attention.
There's a sign right there that
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you should meet this person.
And I was at this juncture of
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OK, I've had a really fabulous
career.
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I love beauty, but it's not as
meaningful to me anymore.
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It's not as challenging.
It's still glamorous but I'm not
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getting that like really like
soul based work and
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gratification from it.
And also I just like couldn't
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like Swatch another lipstick
like I when I just really wanted
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to talk about like your life
path number, it just became I
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really.
Love beauty still, but I was
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like more tuned into inner
beauty at that point.
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So I met with her and I didn't
know what to expect.
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And I was in transition.
I was recently divorced.
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I was really wanting to just
like solve for everything in my
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life and just like put a bow on
it, which we know is not how
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this works.
It's just like you're peeling
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back layers one at a time.
And she came to our session.
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This was a phone session.
She came with, oh, I don't know,
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2021 things like.
Written list that she had
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downloaded in her meditation or
journey that she does before she
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meets with clients didn't know
me from Boo and it was profound.
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She didn't know what half of the
things she was telling me meant,
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but they meant something to me.
So if you've ever had an
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intuitive reading, there's
usually more dialogue.
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You're asking questions.
Not everyone, like people like
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to test that out.
That the theory of like are you
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really psychic or do you are you
just sort of like guessing at my
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you know the answer to my
question And she came with all
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of this.
Information downloaded for me
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already.
And the other thing that stood
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out about her to me is that she
introduced me to the concept
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that we all have spiritual
beings, these guides, whole
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team.
We call them the team.
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She called them the team.
So I've adopted that as well and
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that's what we refer to them in
the book as.
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And so that was my entry point
into wait, I don't need to have
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psychic powers.
I can connect with my team.
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I can be in communication with
them.
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I probably. 4:00 AM We all are
without realizing it.
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And she really, over the years,
we worked together for a number
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of years, six or seven.
She taught me how to do that,
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and we realized that we could
teach everyone else how to do it
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as well.
So I was her student, and I
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mean, now we're we've become
dear friends and kindred spirits
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and souls and all those good
things.
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But yeah, she taught me.
And then I'm here to teach
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everyone else as a writer how to
do what we do.
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Yours is unique because I think
that a lot of people tend to
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come and mine was this kind of
story where like some real sense
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of trauma or rock bottom happens
and they feel hopeless and that
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there's no other way other than
to dive inward.
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And so they come to this place
of spirituality through like the
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Phoenix out of the Ashes.
And it's like your story is a
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little different, where it was
like you were just open to it.
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It seems like perhaps there
might have been some
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inquisitiveness and essential
curiosity, which is wonderful,
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but you were open to the idea
that there is something more and
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came to her as a client.
And little by little, yeah, you
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kind of stepped further and
further into the idea that, hey,
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this is beneficial, this is
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This is something that we need
to share.
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Yes, it was definitely the next
level of my journey.
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But we do see, I mean, whether
it's clients or whether it's me
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talking to I've had a podcast as
well, or readers or anyone in my
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sort of network, most people are
in duress or they're in
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transition.
Whether it's career or
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relationships or they are in
transition and they're not sure
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what their next move is.
Or we often say, like people
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said, start thinking, is this
all there is?
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It's like when you hit that
point of is this all there is?
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that.
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Like you've got the job, you've
got the house, you've got the
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car you want, you've got the
kids, you've got like everything
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that you thought, all those
boxes that you were taught to
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check.
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emptiness or loneliness or just.
Fulfilled potential on a soul
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level.
I describe it as that like that
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niggling feeling.
I haven't quite hit it.
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I haven't quite, like, maximized
my life.
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Those are often our readers too.
So for people who have tried,
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I'm a big fan of therapy.
But sometimes people need
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something other than talking.
They need something.
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Some people get it out of going
on a really great jog or
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meditating and whatever that is
for you.
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That just really taps into you
on a soul level.
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I mean, I feel like.
Like, I'm using so much woo woo
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terminology right now.
Just sort of, I'm cracking
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myself, OK, yeah.
Because I'm so used to talking
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about it.
So you're good.
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You're good.
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But.
We are not.
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And if you can't hear from my
voice, like I describe myself as
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a hippie disguised in j.crew,
like we are not, I think,
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traditional spiritual people for
what has sort of become a
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stereotype.
So I really almost avoid some of
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these terms until people read
the book and start trying.
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Some of these modalities,
because it's really as simple as
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remembering who you are and your
truth and why you're here and
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just getting back to that.
Getting back to center and the
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other side is a tool and an
invitation to do that.
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So yeah, no, I can appreciate
that completely because I think
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that there had been this thought
that, oh, you're either in that
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camp of like the Uber woo woo or
you're not authentically woo woo
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or, you know, you're a skeptic
and you know much more of a
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career person.
And this podcast and what I'm
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all about is like embracing the
intersection because we all have
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these multifaceted aspects of
ourselves.
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And the fact that you abide by
or embrace a certain part of
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yourself, which is the
spirituality, which is the soul
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centeredness and can bring that
into your profession and be
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somebody who is all about beauty
and is all about culture and
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lifestyle.
You can still talk to your
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spirit guides and do all of
these things and live this
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wonderfully fulfilled life in
the way that you want to
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manifest, but that's the key.
It's doing it from a place of
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wholeheartedness and from
within, rather than chasing
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those externalities.
And I think that that's what you
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mean by Chase you right?
100 percent, 100% and it's
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become spirituality.
It's definitely become more
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mainstream.
But yeah, it's not about
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changing anything in your life
that you love and that feels
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authentic to you and feels good.
I mean, I've got crystals on my
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night stand.
Next.
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Like 3 face masks and closet
full of beauty swags.
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So there is no there are no
rules.
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There are no rules and we all
have access to the other side.
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We are trying to democratize
spirituality for people and make
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it accessible because it's
really our birthright to have
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and receive this support.
Yeah, I think one of the terms
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or a couple of the terms that
we'll often use in the conscious
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community is I'm a way show or
or a light bearer, things like
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that.
And I consider myself away
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shower because I am definitely
the person that is for the
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conscious curious.
And it's like, oh, if you
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haven't heard of this, I would
like to introduce you to
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Elizabeth because she might have
something that can help you in
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terms of like finding a sense of
wholeness and getting you to
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that next step, helping you to
escalate on your journey to a
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higher vibration.
And so part of that is an
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understanding of spirit guides,
because I know that a lot of
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people will be like, OK, do I
have Casper, the Friendly ghost
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in my closet?
That, you know what is going on?
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What do you mean by this?
It's frightening or it's like
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creepy or like, curious.
You know, again, could you just
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give people a 101 on what you
mean by spirit guides and how
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they're, like, hanging around?
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I mean the first question I
asked Monica's wait, do the
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angels have wings?
Because I don't know if I can
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get behind this.
And she said, however you want
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to envision them is totally
fine.
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Now Monica can see the other
side.
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They will be.
Standing in her bedroom, she can
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feel them, she can hear them.
So she came back with that,
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those abilities after a near
death experience when she was
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nine years old, the car
accident.
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So I do not have those, but
there are a number of.
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Irritual cheerleaders on your
team and I might miss one or two
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here, but we're all born with an
Angel or two.
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They're with you from the time
you're born to the time you die.
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And they help you with those,
sort of like, and they keep you
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safe.
I would say they keep you safe
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when you avoid the dark alley.
Or you take this turn instead of
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that turn or you just feel like
this is not the person that I
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want to talk to at this moment.
I don't feel safe.
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That's what they're there for.
They're really looking out for
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you.
Spirit guides have they have
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walked the earth They were.
Human beings at one point, and
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they're here, I think of those
guides as they're here to help
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you when you need support.
So with a job, you're traveling,
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you are trying to make a big
decision.
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They're there for that.
There are archangels, more
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angels.
And I want to just point out
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that all of these predate and
are not exclusive to religion.
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So this is regardless of
religious affiliation, which I
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have none by the way.
So archangels really come in for
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very specific needs, whether
it's urine.
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Career transition.
Or you're struggling with money,
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etc.
And they just come and go.
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They're not always with you.
What else?
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There are ascended masters who,
whether it's Buddha or Jesus or
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Mother Earth, anyone.
Any of those sort of
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philosophies that you gravitate
toward.
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You can call on them or study
their philosophies and they're
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there to sort of guide you on
your mission, depending on what
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your soul is seeking.
And then loved ones, ancestors,
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pets.
Anyone who has crossed over,
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they're also on your team.
Are you tearing up?
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I'm not.
I bet.
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OK, Maybe it's my angels.
Maybe it's your angels.
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Sorry, people sometimes get
emotional, but yes, any of your
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loved ones.
Hurry or otherwise who have
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passed over.
They're always available to you
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as well.
Amazing.
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So big.
Team.
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It's a big team.
Spirit guides are, you know,
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some.
I guess what you're saying is
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that they it's like a team of
angels or a team of ancestors,
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people who have come before you,
that are there really to help
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you in your life.
And so they'll always be there.
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And sometimes they're
whispering, maybe
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subconsciously, different
thoughts or suggestions or
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different ways of going about
things.
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You you can ignore them.
It's really like you are not a
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puppet on a string, right You
are.
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You have, you have absolute free
will.
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Yeah, free will.
That's not being controlled by
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or possessed by anything at all
there.
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Just think of them as almost
like those ones that are just
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giving you extra support and
helping you with wisdom that you
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otherwise may not be knowing
that they're there for you.
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And So what are some of the ways
that we can be like, hey, be
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more aware of them or call on
them when we need it or how do
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we tap into this?
Well, you mentioned sort of
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hearing or get.
I mean whether it's a thought
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pops into your head, you just
have a knowing everyone sort of
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has a different you've probably
heard of like clairvoyance,
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clairsentience.
So most of us have sort of a
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primary way that we use our
intuition as a writer.
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Sometimes I will write and I
will look down and think where
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did that come from?
Like I don't know where that
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idea came from or that sentence
and the other side is often
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working through.
For you, without you being
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conscious of that, you're in
conversation.
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But when you have a gut feeling
when something pops into your
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head, when you think to call
someone, you think to reach out
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for a coffee day.
When you're networking or a
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company or just a bright idea,
that's often them giving you
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that intuitive hit that gift.
And you don't have to do
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anything to receive that.
You don't even have to believe
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me.
We love skeptics, but everyone
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has probably experienced that in
their life and just know, like
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the other side is always love.
They're always supportive.
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You cannot mess up this contact
or this communication, but
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they're always working on your
behalf.
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Another way that people, without
realizing it, have been working
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with the other side is through
signs.
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So loved ones often show up as
animals for people.
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We have many stories in the
book.
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Cardinals are biggie.
My father-in-law, like, has
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dumped feathers on us when he
wants us to move or change some
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behavior.
So we know he always shows up
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that way and you can start
working with the other side to
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ask for those signs.
So this is a few lessons in the
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book, so I won't go through them
all on this podcast, but we
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start by having you meet your
team.
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So there's an exercise where you
you basically say I want to
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connect with you, I give you
permission and then you ask them
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to send you a sign or three.
We like to do things in threes
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because it really hits the
message home and people need a
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lot of validation that this is
real in the beginning.
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And so we always is teach in
threes.
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And Monica actually developed
this sort of process.
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I don't want to call it a
process, but this is how she
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taught her kids about the other
side.
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So it's very simple and joyful
and you can't mess it up.
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So once you've sort of validated
that your team is real, then you
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can start asking them to send
you signs about anything you
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have questions about or you're
struggling with or you need
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guidance or support on.
Yeah, brilliant.
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I'll share just something that I
had experience with and for
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whatever reason, all throughout
my life I've always.
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Felt that I've had a guardian
Angel.
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And even since I was a young
child.
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And I always felt like I'm going
to be safe, things are going to
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be OK.
And every once in a while I
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would hear a voice and it was
actually a very like comforting,
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soothing male voice.
And it was always some assurance
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like everything's going to be
all right, I've got you, things
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are going to be OK.
And it was always so nice
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knowing that I could always just
like, sit back, breathe, look at
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nature and feel OK no matter
what was going on and so.
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I'm not quite sure what the
voice was, who it was, if it was
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an Archangel, if it was, you
know who it was.
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But it's just something that has
always been with me and I've
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come to just embrace the fact
that, yeah, I think that a lot
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of us are are being looked
after.
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That doesn't mean that things
won't happen, doesn't mean that
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shit won't happen for sure.
But it can be a way for us to be
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able to feel a little bit better
in those moments when the shit
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does hit the fan or when things
happen.
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I think a lot of people are
celebrating today because
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somebody was.
Arrested in New York.
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I think some people know who
that was.
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That's a choice, Monica would
say.
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And his angels, he all he's.
He also has angels.
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Your guides.
No one is left unattended to so.
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Yes, yes, this is true.
This is true, yes, I know.
437
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Sometimes I think how could that
person have any support on the
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other side?
How he.
439
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Clearly has some support because
look at.
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Yeah, look at what's I know, I
know.
441
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People to galvanize, but we.
Also, be on names.
442
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I call him Voldemort.
You shall not be named.
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We are.
We're all here to learn life
444
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lessons.
That is part of our time.
445
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Yeah, yeah, we all agreed to
this.
446
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We all agreed to signed up and
agreed.
447
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And some of those lessons are
tougher than others.
448
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So I'm curious if you still hear
this voice, if you still hear
449
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from your guide, or if you still
have, like a ritual.
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Yeah, yeah.
You still feel the support
451
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around you?
Yeah, and I will say that as
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somebody who has definitely gone
through the experience of
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awakening, it Epps and flows
like there are certain times
454
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where I will, depending on
what's going on in my life, I'll
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really be able to meditate and
be much more in tune with what
456
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we would call like the intuition
and.
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And get the messages and do free
writing and have a lot of things
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come through.
It happened when I was writing
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my book.
It was just like a lot more free
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flowing.
And I'm not a great writer.
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I strangely started writing and
I believe it was just me being a
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channel more than anything.
And so there is that.
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And then there are other times
where I'm like, I got nothing.
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I feel like there's like a
detachment and it's natural.
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It doesn't mean that there's
anything wrong with you.
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At least I've come to appreciate
that about myself.
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It's just like you might be
going through a period where
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it's like.
Not as open for whatever reason.
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It could be environmental.
It could be what you're eating
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or not needing, That could be
your lack of sleep or exercise.
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It could be like you taking care
of you to be in a prime place,
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to be able to receive messages
and to really be in tune with
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them.
And so I'm sure that there's a
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whole sort of series of
practices which can help kind of
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like get you into more of the
rhythm of being able to be in
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touch with the spirit side, if
you will.
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Yeah, yeah, there is.
And it's totally natural to want
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to to either just get busy, live
in your life and you don't have
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questions and you're on A roll.
And I will forget because I
480
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don't need anything.
I mean, that's sort of human
481
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nature.
Like until I have a question or
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I'm struggling like Oh no.
Now I need you.
483
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God, parents, you know I'm like
mom.
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I take you for granted and then
I call you as soon as I need
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your love and TLC.
So they're not going anywhere.
486
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You cannot lose the connection.
You cannot piss them off.
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They will be waiting.
And also like this is not always
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easy work because we learn
things about ourselves, we learn
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things that we want to change in
our lives and that can require
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effort and disruption.
And I've asked Monica before,
491
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like I cannot take it anymore, I
can't take change, I can't take
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the work anymore.
She's like take a break or tell
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your team to slow down.
Slow down on all of the
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awakenings and but when you sort
of come through that and are
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ready again or if you are able
to make it a regular, just like
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we just really encourage people.
And I've seen this with myself
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for sure you need to find some
stillness whether that is for
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me, it's in the bathtub because
I have no distractions.
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People feel like it's same with
the shower, you know, you're
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just there, you your body, the
water.
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And that's when I can like get
some clarity and hear from them.
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For some people, it's nature
meditating.
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I don't like to put a lot of
like construct around it because
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that just feels like another to
do that.
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We none of us have time for or
commitment to, but it is in the
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stillness is where you can hear
yourself and the other side if
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you would like to speak with
them.
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Yeah, I've often told some
people that binaural beats
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tended to help me as well.
My brain waves into a certain
510
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mode of it's data or a more
creative state to be able to
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actually mentally prime yourself
for receiving inspiration in
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certain ways.
That was always a big one for
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me.
You're such a thinking society.
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I will think my way into the
solution.
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I will think about how I'm
feeling.
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I will think about what I want.
And that can be really limiting.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
So where can people find your
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intriguing book?
Because I'm sure that you're
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going to have a lot of people
very interested in knowing about
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your field guide for
spirituality.
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Yeah, this is supposed to be an
easy, fun reign.
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You can take it one step at a
time.
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You can devour it in a weekend.
We have links to the book at
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Chase U dot org, Also very easy
to find on Amazon, Barnes and
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Noble and some indie book book
shops.
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00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,670
And it's also available on
Audible and Kindle, so sometimes
527
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:35,710
it's nice to listen.
I've always loved listening to
528
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spiritual and self help books.
I'm an Audible fan for me.
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Yeah, they just start like a
walking meditation unto
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themselves.
But yeah, it's out here.
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Thank you.
Thank you so much Elizabeth.
532
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This was so insightful.
I can't wait to follow along on
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your journey too.
I cannot wait.
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Excellent.
All right.
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We'll be hearing from you soon.
All right, my dear.
536
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:59,590
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Welcome to today's show,
Beautiful Humans.
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You know, I just love coming
across kick ass people who have
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built successful big careers and
then like me for one reason or
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another had this wake up call
which enabled them to happen to
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enhanced wisdom and
understanding.
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I'm a member of the Female
Founders Collective, which is an
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incredible network of women
identifying entrepreneurs.
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And I have good to hear about a
book called Chase You Co,
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written by my guest today,
Elizabeth Kendig.
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Now Elizabeth spent much of her
career in retail, editorial,
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beauty and publicity, and for
years she was a recognized
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editorial director.
She Co founded the awesome brand
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One Level Organics and she's
twice exited founder.
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So yeah, you could say that by
LinkedIn standards that she's
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been pretty successful.
But now, more recently,
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Elizabeth has discovered that
there's more to life than
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chasing physical success.
Inspired by her own
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transformation, she wrote.
Chase you to help others heal
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through the power of
spirituality.
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And I'm so excited to welcome
you, Elizabeth, to the show.
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Thank you so much for having me.
You nailed it.
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You can write my next bio.
All right.
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Well done, Well done.
Well, I have to say, I mean,
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it's pretty easy because you had
it going on.
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I mean, you were a magnet
editor.
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You say you were an accidental
influencer, which is always I'm
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using.
You've got to tell us about your
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storied career.
Yes, accidental influencer.
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Because I was one of those, sort
of, I hate to say, OG bloggers
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who was a journalist, who was a
magazine editor.
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And blogs were sort of like
cropping up.
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And I thought, well, I should
just try this as part of my
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professional experience and it's
just going to be a creative
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outlet.
And it took off.
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I did a lot of TV and radio.
I woke up one day and had, oh, a
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million Pinterest.
Followers and that just started
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ticking up.
And so these were the days of
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brand collaborations and I mean
they're still going on, but I
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really fell into it and had the
most incredible experience.
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And out of that started Co
founded 2 skin care lines and
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really got to live my very young
childhood dreams of working in
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the beauty space not only as a
writer but as a product
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developer and marketer.
And yeah, it was a dream come
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true.
So people always say, why would
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you stop doing that and?
At the same time, as an editor,
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I was getting to travel around
the world and locally experience
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so many beauty treatments.
And that sort of was a time when
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an acupuncture facial was like
on the fringe and no one was
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talking about Mercury
retrograde.
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And all of these sort of
holistic and metaphysical
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modalities started creeping into
my purview and my, like,
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personal interest.
And so I like to say that I went
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on a.
Virtual or self help Bender and
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came out on the other side just
with a new way of life, a new
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way of being.
I finally felt like I was meant
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to be here.
Like I wasn't an accident on the
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earth and meet a lot of sort of
recovering perfectionists and
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like highly ambitious people who
appear to have it all together
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but like still feel like they're
out of place walking the earth.
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Because, you know, we're
spiritual beings in physical
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bodies and as soon as I
connected with.
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These sort of spiritual healers
and guides on earth, I felt like
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something sort of clicked for
me, like I felt like I'd found
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my people and this connection to
the other side just made me feel
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whole and not alone.
And so that became a career
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transition, but also just part
of who I am today too, so I had
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to share it.
I mean, when you're a
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communicator, you just all you
want is to tell people what is
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available to them for support
and for healing.
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Sure.
Now I want to step back because
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you touched on the fact that
we're both from the beauty
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industry.
It's a glamorous life.
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You get to see and experience
the kind of lifestyle that a lot
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of women covet and they had
always wanted.
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And you feel like, yeah, do I
feel like I made it?
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But why is it that something's
still missing?
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Why is it that something still
feels like there's got to be
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more?
And you tell me about like what
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it is about hustle culture that
may have really been very
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seductive to a lot of women that
are now and.
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Then yeah, I can.
I'm such a great question and so
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timely too.
I think, because I'm hoping that
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hustle culture is on its way
out.
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We don't need it.
It's not working for us.
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We think it is.
I look back on those days and I
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worked 80 hours a week at times.
I had a fulltime job and I had a
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blog and a skin care line and I
was freelancing and I was
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soaking it all up and loving it.
But I think it's not because I
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was working so hard and
hustling, it's because I was
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very much in.
Flow with my purpose at the time
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so it didn't feel like work.
And that's one thing I want
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people to take away from this
book.
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When you're on mission, when
you're chasing you, it doesn't
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just happen and all fall into
place without any effort, but
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you don't ever feel like you're
hustling.
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The right people present
themselves the right
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opportunities, and you have all
the energy in the world to do
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what you're doing because you're
being true to yourself.
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Does that help?
Yeah, absolutely.
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I also feel like there's a lot
of people who may have in the
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past separate their careers and
what they're doing to make a
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living versus maybe what they're
doing in their personal lives in
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terms of spirituality or in the
past it was more religion based.
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I think in Western society there
was very much a difference like
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oh, you went to church or you
went to temple and only until,
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for example, I think that you're
a great example.
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Then you, you start coming
across these different kinds of
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healers that have always been
around since ancient culture,
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but just for some reason they
were always either ostracized or
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alienated, made it or felt like,
oh, there's not realness to what
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they're doing.
It's like voodoo magic or it's
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something that is not
necessarily for me, but only
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until we started saying, hey,
yoga is actually pretty
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beneficial or acupuncture.
You know, there's something to
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this or there's little by little
there's been this entry into
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Eastern or ancient modalities
that we're having this
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incredible wake up call.
And from your perspective, you
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actually met with Monica.
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us about Monica and her story
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she helped you to see to this
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work, so many of them were not
in hiding but not very confident
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about putting themselves out
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and the whether it's yoga or
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much more accessible to.
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in many ways, but we still have
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these modalities accessible to
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practitioners into the light
because they are purely here
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because they want to support and
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that up and whether it starts
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with something that's science
backed or that your fitness
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studio and that feels familiar
and comfortable to you start
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there and I guarantee.
It'll be like a gateway drug to
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something else.
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psychic parties like I did,
because it feels good, it feels
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good and it feels whole and it
feels like something that I
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think is familiar to all of us
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from these things that I think
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of this long journey that I had
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with.
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friend recommended her to me and
this is how so many healers come
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There's a sign right there that
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you should meet this person.
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OK, I've had a really fabulous
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I love beauty, but it's not as
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It's not as challenging.
It's still glamorous but I'm not
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getting that like really like
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gratification from it.
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like Swatch another lipstick
like I when I just really wanted
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to talk about like your life
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really.
Love beauty still, but I was
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like more tuned into inner
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So I met with her and I didn't
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I was recently divorced.
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I was really wanting to just
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life and just like put a bow on
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this works.
It's just like you're peeling
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back layers one at a time.
And she came to our session.
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This was a phone session.
She came with, oh, I don't know,
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2021 things like.
Written list that she had
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downloaded in her meditation or
journey that she does before she
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meets with clients didn't know
me from Boo and it was profound.
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She didn't know what half of the
things she was telling me meant,
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but they meant something to me.
So if you've ever had an
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intuitive reading, there's
usually more dialogue.
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You're asking questions.
Not everyone, like people like
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to test that out.
That the theory of like are you
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really psychic or do you are you
just sort of like guessing at my
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you know the answer to my
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of this.
Information downloaded for me
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already.
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out about her to me is that she
introduced me to the concept
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that we all have spiritual
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team.
We call them the team.
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She called them the team.
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that's what we refer to them in
the book as.
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into wait, I don't need to have
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psychic powers.
I can connect with my team.
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I can be in communication with
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I probably. 4:00 AM We all are
without realizing it.
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And she really, over the years,
we worked together for a number
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of years, six or seven.
She taught me how to do that,
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and we realized that we could
teach everyone else how to do it
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as well.
So I was her student, and I
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mean, now we're we've become
dear friends and kindred spirits
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and souls and all those good
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But yeah, she taught me.
And then I'm here to teach
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everyone else as a writer how to
do what we do.
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Yours is unique because I think
that a lot of people tend to
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come and mine was this kind of
story where like some real sense
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of trauma or rock bottom happens
and they feel hopeless and that
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there's no other way other than
to dive inward.
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of spirituality through like the
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Phoenix out of the Ashes.
And it's like your story is a
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little different, where it was
like you were just open to it.
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might have been some
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inquisitiveness and essential
curiosity, which is wonderful,
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but you were open to the idea
that there is something more and
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came to her as a client.
And little by little, yeah, you
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kind of stepped further and
further into the idea that, hey,
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this is beneficial, this is
real.
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This is something that we need
to share.
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Yes, it was definitely the next
level of my journey.
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But we do see, I mean, whether
it's clients or whether it's me
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talking to I've had a podcast as
well, or readers or anyone in my
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sort of network, most people are
in duress or they're in
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transition.
Whether it's career or
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relationships or they are in
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what their next move is.
Or we often say, like people
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said, start thinking, is this
all there is?
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It's like when you hit that
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Like you've got the job, you've
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car you want, you've got the
kids, you've got like everything
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that you thought, all those
boxes that you were taught to
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check.
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emptiness or loneliness or just.
Fulfilled potential on a soul
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level.
I describe it as that like that
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niggling feeling.
I haven't quite hit it.
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I haven't quite, like, maximized
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Those are often our readers too.
So for people who have tried,
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I'm a big fan of therapy.
But sometimes people need
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something other than talking.
They need something.
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on a really great jog or
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meditating and whatever that is
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That just really taps into you
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Like, I'm using so much woo woo
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terminology right now.
Just sort of, I'm cracking
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myself, OK, yeah.
Because I'm so used to talking
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about it.
So you're good.
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We are not.
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a hippie disguised in j.crew,
like we are not, I think,
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traditional spiritual people for
what has sort of become a
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stereotype.
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these terms until people read
the book and start trying.
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Some of these modalities,
because it's really as simple as
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remembering who you are and your
truth and why you're here and
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just getting back to that.
Getting back to center and the
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other side is a tool and an
invitation to do that.
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that completely because I think
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that there had been this thought
that, oh, you're either in that
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camp of like the Uber woo woo or
you're not authentically woo woo
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or, you know, you're a skeptic
and you know much more of a
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career person.
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all about is like embracing the
intersection because we all have
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these multifaceted aspects of
ourselves.
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And the fact that you abide by
or embrace a certain part of
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yourself, which is the
spirituality, which is the soul
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centeredness and can bring that
into your profession and be
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somebody who is all about beauty
and is all about culture and
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lifestyle.
You can still talk to your
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spirit guides and do all of
these things and live this
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wonderfully fulfilled life in
the way that you want to
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manifest, but that's the key.
It's doing it from a place of
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wholeheartedness and from
within, rather than chasing
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those externalities.
And I think that that's what you
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mean by Chase you right?
100 percent, 100% and it's
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become spirituality.
It's definitely become more
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mainstream.
But yeah, it's not about
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changing anything in your life
that you love and that feels
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authentic to you and feels good.
I mean, I've got crystals on my
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night stand.
Next.
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Like 3 face masks and closet
full of beauty swags.
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So there is no there are no
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There are no rules and we all
have access to the other side.
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We are trying to democratize
spirituality for people and make
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it accessible because it's
really our birthright to have
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and receive this support.
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or a couple of the terms that
we'll often use in the conscious
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community is I'm a way show or
or a light bearer, things like
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that.
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shower because I am definitely
the person that is for the
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conscious curious.
And it's like, oh, if you
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haven't heard of this, I would
like to introduce you to
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Elizabeth because she might have
something that can help you in
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terms of like finding a sense of
wholeness and getting you to
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that next step, helping you to
escalate on your journey to a
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higher vibration.
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understanding of spirit guides,
because I know that a lot of
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people will be like, OK, do I
have Casper, the Friendly ghost
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in my closet?
That, you know what is going on?
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What do you mean by this?
It's frightening or it's like
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creepy or like, curious.
You know, again, could you just
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give people a 101 on what you
mean by spirit guides and how
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they're, like, hanging around?
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I mean the first question I
asked Monica's wait, do the
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angels have wings?
Because I don't know if I can
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get behind this.
And she said, however you want
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to envision them is totally
fine.
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Now Monica can see the other
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They will be.
Standing in her bedroom, she can
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feel them, she can hear them.
So she came back with that,
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those abilities after a near
death experience when she was
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nine years old, the car
accident.
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So I do not have those, but
there are a number of.
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Irritual cheerleaders on your
team and I might miss one or two
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here, but we're all born with an
Angel or two.
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They're with you from the time
you're born to the time you die.
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And they help you with those,
sort of like, and they keep you
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safe.
I would say they keep you safe
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when you avoid the dark alley.
Or you take this turn instead of
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that turn or you just feel like
this is not the person that I
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want to talk to at this moment.
I don't feel safe.
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That's what they're there for.
They're really looking out for
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you.
Spirit guides have they have
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walked the earth They were.
Human beings at one point, and
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they're here, I think of those
guides as they're here to help
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you when you need support.
So with a job, you're traveling,
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you are trying to make a big
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They're there for that.
There are archangels, more
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angels.
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that all of these predate and
are not exclusive to religion.
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So this is regardless of
religious affiliation, which I
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have none by the way.
So archangels really come in for
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very specific needs, whether
it's urine.
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Career transition.
Or you're struggling with money,
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etc.
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They're not always with you.
What else?
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There are ascended masters who,
whether it's Buddha or Jesus or
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Mother Earth, anyone.
Any of those sort of
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philosophies that you gravitate
toward.
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You can call on them or study
their philosophies and they're
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there to sort of guide you on
your mission, depending on what
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your soul is seeking.
And then loved ones, ancestors,
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pets.
Anyone who has crossed over,
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they're also on your team.
Are you tearing up?
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I'm not.
I bet.
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OK, Maybe it's my angels.
Maybe it's your angels.
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Sorry, people sometimes get
emotional, but yes, any of your
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loved ones.
Hurry or otherwise who have
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passed over.
They're always available to you
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as well.
Amazing.
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So big.
Team.
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It's a big team.
Spirit guides are, you know,
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some.
I guess what you're saying is
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that they it's like a team of
angels or a team of ancestors,
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people who have come before you,
that are there really to help
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you in your life.
And so they'll always be there.
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And sometimes they're
whispering, maybe
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subconsciously, different
thoughts or suggestions or
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different ways of going about
things.
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You you can ignore them.
It's really like you are not a
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puppet on a string, right You
are.
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You have, you have absolute free
will.
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Yeah, free will.
That's not being controlled by
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or possessed by anything at all
there.
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Just think of them as almost
like those ones that are just
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giving you extra support and
helping you with wisdom that you
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otherwise may not be knowing
that they're there for you.
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And So what are some of the ways
that we can be like, hey, be
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more aware of them or call on
them when we need it or how do
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we tap into this?
Well, you mentioned sort of
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hearing or get.
I mean whether it's a thought
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pops into your head, you just
have a knowing everyone sort of
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has a different you've probably
heard of like clairvoyance,
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clairsentience.
So most of us have sort of a
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primary way that we use our
intuition as a writer.
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Sometimes I will write and I
will look down and think where
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did that come from?
Like I don't know where that
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idea came from or that sentence
and the other side is often
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working through.
For you, without you being
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conscious of that, you're in
conversation.
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But when you have a gut feeling
when something pops into your
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head, when you think to call
someone, you think to reach out
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for a coffee day.
When you're networking or a
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company or just a bright idea,
that's often them giving you
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that intuitive hit that gift.
And you don't have to do
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anything to receive that.
You don't even have to believe
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me.
We love skeptics, but everyone
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has probably experienced that in
their life and just know, like
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the other side is always love.
They're always supportive.
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You cannot mess up this contact
or this communication, but
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they're always working on your
behalf.
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Another way that people, without
realizing it, have been working
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with the other side is through
signs.
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So loved ones often show up as
animals for people.
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We have many stories in the
book.
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Cardinals are biggie.
My father-in-law, like, has
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dumped feathers on us when he
wants us to move or change some
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behavior.
So we know he always shows up
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that way and you can start
working with the other side to
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ask for those signs.
So this is a few lessons in the
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book, so I won't go through them
all on this podcast, but we
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start by having you meet your
team.
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So there's an exercise where you
you basically say I want to
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connect with you, I give you
permission and then you ask them
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to send you a sign or three.
We like to do things in threes
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because it really hits the
message home and people need a
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lot of validation that this is
real in the beginning.
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And so we always is teach in
threes.
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And Monica actually developed
this sort of process.
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I don't want to call it a
process, but this is how she
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taught her kids about the other
side.
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So it's very simple and joyful
and you can't mess it up.
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So once you've sort of validated
that your team is real, then you
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can start asking them to send
you signs about anything you
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have questions about or you're
struggling with or you need
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guidance or support on.
Yeah, brilliant.
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I'll share just something that I
had experience with and for
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whatever reason, all throughout
my life I've always.
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Felt that I've had a guardian
Angel.
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And even since I was a young
child.
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And I always felt like I'm going
to be safe, things are going to
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be OK.
And every once in a while I
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would hear a voice and it was
actually a very like comforting,
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soothing male voice.
And it was always some assurance
417
00:21:54,110 --> 00:21:57,310
like everything's going to be
all right, I've got you, things
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are going to be OK.
And it was always so nice
419
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knowing that I could always just
like, sit back, breathe, look at
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nature and feel OK no matter
what was going on and so.
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I'm not quite sure what the
voice was, who it was, if it was
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00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:13,310
an Archangel, if it was, you
know who it was.
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But it's just something that has
always been with me and I've
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come to just embrace the fact
that, yeah, I think that a lot
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of us are are being looked
after.
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That doesn't mean that things
won't happen, doesn't mean that
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shit won't happen for sure.
But it can be a way for us to be
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able to feel a little bit better
in those moments when the shit
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does hit the fan or when things
happen.
430
00:22:35,550 --> 00:22:37,710
I think a lot of people are
celebrating today because
431
00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:39,390
somebody was.
Arrested in New York.
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I think some people know who
that was.
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00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:43,470
That's a choice, Monica would
say.
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00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:46,950
And his angels, he all he's.
He also has angels.
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Your guides.
No one is left unattended to so.
436
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Yes, yes, this is true.
This is true, yes, I know.
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Sometimes I think how could that
person have any support on the
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other side?
How he.
439
00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:02,030
Clearly has some support because
look at.
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00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:03,790
Yeah, look at what's I know, I
know.
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00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:06,710
People to galvanize, but we.
Also, be on names.
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00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:10,830
I call him Voldemort.
You shall not be named.
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00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:13,110
We are.
We're all here to learn life
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lessons.
That is part of our time.
445
00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,270
Yeah, yeah, we all agreed to
this.
446
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:19,870
We all agreed to signed up and
agreed.
447
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And some of those lessons are
tougher than others.
448
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So I'm curious if you still hear
this voice, if you still hear
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from your guide, or if you still
have, like a ritual.
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Yeah, yeah.
You still feel the support
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00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,200
around you?
Yeah, and I will say that as
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somebody who has definitely gone
through the experience of
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awakening, it Epps and flows
like there are certain times
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where I will, depending on
what's going on in my life, I'll
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really be able to meditate and
be much more in tune with what
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we would call like the intuition
and.
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And get the messages and do free
writing and have a lot of things
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come through.
It happened when I was writing
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my book.
It was just like a lot more free
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flowing.
And I'm not a great writer.
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00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,320
I strangely started writing and
I believe it was just me being a
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00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,680
channel more than anything.
And so there is that.
463
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,640
And then there are other times
where I'm like, I got nothing.
464
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I feel like there's like a
detachment and it's natural.
465
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It doesn't mean that there's
anything wrong with you.
466
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,600
At least I've come to appreciate
that about myself.
467
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,720
It's just like you might be
going through a period where
468
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,040
it's like.
Not as open for whatever reason.
469
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,280
It could be environmental.
It could be what you're eating
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or not needing, That could be
your lack of sleep or exercise.
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It could be like you taking care
of you to be in a prime place,
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to be able to receive messages
and to really be in tune with
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them.
And so I'm sure that there's a
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whole sort of series of
practices which can help kind of
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like get you into more of the
rhythm of being able to be in
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touch with the spirit side, if
you will.
477
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Yeah, yeah, there is.
And it's totally natural to want
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to to either just get busy, live
in your life and you don't have
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questions and you're on A roll.
And I will forget because I
480
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,320
don't need anything.
I mean, that's sort of human
481
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280
nature.
Like until I have a question or
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00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560
I'm struggling like Oh no.
Now I need you.
483
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,280
God, parents, you know I'm like
mom.
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00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,600
I take you for granted and then
I call you as soon as I need
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00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,880
your love and TLC.
So they're not going anywhere.
486
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040
You cannot lose the connection.
You cannot piss them off.
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They will be waiting.
And also like this is not always
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easy work because we learn
things about ourselves, we learn
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00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,720
things that we want to change in
our lives and that can require
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00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,800
effort and disruption.
And I've asked Monica before,
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like I cannot take it anymore, I
can't take change, I can't take
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00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840
the work anymore.
She's like take a break or tell
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00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,800
your team to slow down.
Slow down on all of the
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00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,040
awakenings and but when you sort
of come through that and are
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00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,600
ready again or if you are able
to make it a regular, just like
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00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,960
we just really encourage people.
And I've seen this with myself
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00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,520
for sure you need to find some
stillness whether that is for
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00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,520
me, it's in the bathtub because
I have no distractions.
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00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
People feel like it's same with
the shower, you know, you're
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00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840
just there, you your body, the
water.
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00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,080
And that's when I can like get
some clarity and hear from them.
502
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,360
For some people, it's nature
meditating.
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00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,040
I don't like to put a lot of
like construct around it because
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00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040
that just feels like another to
do that.
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00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,760
We none of us have time for or
commitment to, but it is in the
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00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,360
stillness is where you can hear
yourself and the other side if
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00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,760
you would like to speak with
them.
508
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,520
Yeah, I've often told some
people that binaural beats
509
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,520
tended to help me as well.
My brain waves into a certain
510
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,920
mode of it's data or a more
creative state to be able to
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00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:49,840
actually mentally prime yourself
for receiving inspiration in
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00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,120
certain ways.
That was always a big one for
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00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,880
me.
You're such a thinking society.
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00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280
I will think my way into the
solution.
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00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,120
I will think about how I'm
feeling.
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00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,360
I will think about what I want.
And that can be really limiting.
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00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,680
Yeah, that's definitely true.
So where can people find your
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00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520
intriguing book?
Because I'm sure that you're
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00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,480
going to have a lot of people
very interested in knowing about
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00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,960
your field guide for
spirituality.
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00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,920
Yeah, this is supposed to be an
easy, fun reign.
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00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600
You can take it one step at a
time.
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00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,440
You can devour it in a weekend.
We have links to the book at
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00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,640
Chase U dot org, Also very easy
to find on Amazon, Barnes and
525
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Noble and some indie book book
shops.
526
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,670
And it's also available on
Audible and Kindle, so sometimes
527
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:35,710
it's nice to listen.
I've always loved listening to
528
00:27:35,710 --> 00:27:39,470
spiritual and self help books.
I'm an Audible fan for me.
529
00:27:39,550 --> 00:27:42,430
Yeah, they just start like a
walking meditation unto
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00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:45,510
themselves.
But yeah, it's out here.
531
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:48,270
Thank you.
Thank you so much Elizabeth.
532
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:51,830
This was so insightful.
I can't wait to follow along on
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00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:53,790
your journey too.
I cannot wait.
534
00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:55,070
Excellent.
All right.
535
00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:56,870
We'll be hearing from you soon.
All right, my dear.
536
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:59,590
Thank you.
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