Episode 1: MattLovesHair - Spilling #HairTok Tea

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Hello, beautiful humans.
This is Jennifer Norman, and I

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am so excited to be here with
you today with Matt Newman and

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he is better known as matloff
hair.

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You've probably seen him on Tick
Tock.

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He's got a million followers.
He's got almost 200,000

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followers right now on Instagram
and climbing.

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I'm sure tomorrow, it'll be like
a hundred million.

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He is an absolute treasure.
Sure, when I discovered that on

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Tick-Tock, I was number one,
just entranced by number one.

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His gorgeous.
Looks and his hair, but beyond

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that his personality, you just
can't find anybody sweeter.

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Anybody Kinder.
He will randomly stop people on

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the street and give them
products, which is in my book.

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One of the greatest things that
could ever happen to a person to

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brighten up their day.
So, welcome that.

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I'm so happy You're here.
Hi.

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I am so happy to be connected
with you and your amazing

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initiative and everything that
you have going on.

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Thank you so much.
It's really great to speak to

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you today and so of course I
want to dive right into it

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because everybody wants to know
like what is it I mean you've

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got this amazing head of hair
and you know all the tips and

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the tricks and what to do with
it and what not to do with it.

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But you know what was it that
made you realize that you

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wanted?
To pursue a career in hair.

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You know, it's thank you for
asking.

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First of all, such a sweet
question.

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I went to beauty school, right
after I graduated college one, I

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was it getting my undergrad
degree.

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I had a boyfriend who was not in
college and I always was telling

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him, he should go to beauty
school because he loved all of

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that and, you know, he loved it
all.

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He loved all Glam, everything
and he never really wanted to.

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And then when I was School.
And thinking about what I wanted

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to do, I was like, why do I
think only Gary gets to go to

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Beauty School?
Just because he didn't do an

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undergrad.
I could do that if I wanted.

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So, you know what?
I signed up for school in New

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York and I moved from.
I lived my whole life in

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Michigan and I moved to
Manhattan and I went to school

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in Union Square in a beauty
school that is now defunct no

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longer exist.
What are some of your role

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models?
Did you have any when you were

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growing up?
Or do you have any now?

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Yes, yes, of course, you know,
all right, I have always had a

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really sweet spot in my heart
for Pamela Anderson.

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I have a door when I was young.
That was one of the first people

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in media.
I'm 34.

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So, when I was young was kind of
the Baywatch era and I was

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enamored with her, I love camel
Anderson, I've always loved,

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Pamela Anderson and I'm loving
now that she's back in the

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Forefront and where he seeing
just more, I adore, Pamela

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Anderson, I love everything.
She As you know, such a such a

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graceful beauty, that is how I
perceive her and I've always

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been very drawn to glamorous
women.

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They just make me feel alive.
They make me feel excited.

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And you know, she's the height
of Glamour to me, you know, I

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have to say that I think men
women, we all have crushes on,

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Pamela Anderson Anderson.
Let's face it.

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I think the first time that I
saw her, she was actually an

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extra on Married with Children.
And I loved that show when I was

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down Monday following her down,
the aisles of a vast or

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something.
And he kept dropping stuff to

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make her like bend over.
I think my goodness.

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Absolutely everything she just
commanded every ounce of

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everything with her Glamour and
her beauty.

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I've just I was so Armored with
Kelly Bundy, yes, but amazing.

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You say that?
Well, I think that it's

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interesting because when, you
know, Pamela Anderson was, you

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know, in the threats.
I mean, it's like the

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Unapologetic, divine feminine
incarnate, you know, it's just

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like she was and continues to be
just drop dead gorgeous.

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And it's like, the epitome of
what l.a. style is.

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I actually have a fun pseudo
Baywatch story, which is not

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with Pamela.
Anderson, but with David

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household and I have to, I have
to share this because it's

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hilarious.
I was back in college on the

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dance team.
Like, it was kind of like Laker

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Girls.
We would perform at all of the

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basketball games and at this
particular point, we were in the

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cheering and dancing
championships that they used to

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show on ESPN and we went down to
San Antonio and we're you know,

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we're all stay.
All these bunch of girls are,

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you know, staying at this.
Like I guess it was Like a

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Marriott hotel where they had
the pool and the, you know, the

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hot tub and we're all kind of
hanging out in the hot tub and

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the pool lo and behold, they're
kind of David Hasselhoff.

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He's like filming something
there and we're all like, oh my

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God.
And so when somebody says oh my

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God, that's David.
How I immediately like get out

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like jump out of the pool and I
was like, how's it going and all

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the time?
He looked at me and I was like,

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oh hi.
And then I turned around.

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I was like well, that was a
strange kind of a reaction and

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then my girlfriends are like For
your bathing suit top and had

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completely come down and yes, I
flashed the Hoff when I was in

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college and Jennifer.
I was not expecting that.

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No one is scared for that story,
but isn't it didn't see a

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flashing people and I and this
is perpetuated throughout my

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life.
I, you know, we can we can have

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drinks sometime and I can tell
you a little bit more about it

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but that was that was a defining
moment in my life.

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Let's just say that is They're
cool.

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First of all, Lucky Lucky David
Hasselhoff I know and he got a

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lucky break that day and also
thank you for sharing that's

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hysterical eyelid or that.
I know, I just wanted to crawl

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under a rock and die.
But, you know, at this point

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it's a story for Old Times Sake.
It's a good one, it's a good

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story, we're sure I want to ask
you, you know, there are so many

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people who would describe Beauty
as one way or another.

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I would love to know, like how
would you define Beauty?

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What do you I think beauty is to
you.

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It's very interesting.
You know I think about that a

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lot more.
Now as someone like kind of in a

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category described as Beauty
content creation and and I've

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been asked that, I've been asked
about that before and it's it's

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not necessarily.
I have a hard time putting into

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words but I think that is.
But what I would say is that to

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me beauty is when you're able to
take the representation of what

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feels good in.
Side and feel comfortable that

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that is connected to what you're
projecting outside.

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So it's definitely a connection
there.

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It's got to be it's got to come
from what feels good inside to

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then sort of a manifestation and
how you can present outside.

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Yeah, I like to think of us all
as, like, gods and goddesses and

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almost like these mythical
creatures and beings in our

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imaginations and less like this
is who I really am inside.

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And even though I'm wearing
skin, and Hair and all this, you

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know, hat.
Like how you feel that power

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that magic that Essence.
If you can in any weight like

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with your jewelry?
Or with, you know, your hair

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color have, you know your
lashes?

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I mean drag is Mike the most
fascinating phenomenon.

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Tell me about it, right?
I mean these are gods and

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goddesses but yeah you're
exactly right.

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I think it's like if you can
show up in the world as

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manifesting the the true self
that authentic person or being

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Divine being You're really
holding with any arrow and just

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happy about it and that worrying
about the criticism, right?

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Not worrying about what anybody
else thinks because it's none of

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your business.
What they think it's their

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difference, but they think and
it's often a reflection on what

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they think about themselves,
but, you know, if you can go out

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and Surround that is inspiring
and I agree and, and to me, it's

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feels that there is no one
Beauty, you know, it's like

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that.
That is the representation that

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it's everyone's.
So, Dividual there is there will

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never be one standard of beauty
and I love that were in this

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place these days word us finally
recognized.

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I agree.
I mean, I think about like the

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beauty like the essence of
beauty or what people thought

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was Beauty over time, and how
rigid it was and how strict it

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was.
And how fear-based frankly it

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was more than anything, right?
It wasn't liberating.

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It wasn't like show your own
style, it was more like do you

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fit in And and can we accept you
the way that you are or do we

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need some old you and like you
know, fashion you to look like

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something that we're expecting
of you, right?

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I will.
Yeah, I have on my website.

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It's interesting that this
phrase like pretty is a look.

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But beauty is a feeling and
something about that.

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To me is like you know, if you
feel in love with yourself, if

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you've got that self-esteem in
that self-confidence and that is

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beauty.
That's the positivity that you

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know, Goes Forth and and You
know all this might be pretty

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but you know if you really are
living and looking like your

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truth and amen, I think that
that's the best thing, right?

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I think so too.
I really think so too and it's

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lovely to be in a time where
this conversation is even taking

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place.
Hmm.

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Yeah I think about Asian
cultures in the past where it

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was all about like the white
white skin, the certain kind of

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hair almost like a geisha
modality or foot binding or you

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know I've been like diving into
So, like cultural roots of

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certain traditions and rituals
in Beauty, and I'm like, man,

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I'm so happy that I live in this
town where you can be you and I

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can be me, it's just so much
better.

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I really, I feel the same way,
so I'm curious, like, have you

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always felt this way or has your
relationship with your own

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sense?
Of beauty changed is, you know,

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you've grown and you've
developed in your career.

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What do you think?
It's, you know, I'm gonna to be

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totally honest and say that my
career is a hairstylist leading

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up to content.
Creation was definitely a factor

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in determining that sense of we
all bring our Beauty from within

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my career in content creation.
It's actually taught, you know,

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it wears down that that armor of
positivity, you know, being on

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an app where you're so easily
compared to someone else.

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And so quantifiable by what your
reaction on the For different

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platforms are.
Yeah, it's hard.

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It is hard.
Actually, it takes a toll on

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that ability to let the beauty
come from within.

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And it's, you know, I fall into
that pit fall of comparison and,

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you know, wanting to I guess be
like the things that I see that

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I admire and I used to have an
easier time, really walking the

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walk and talking the talk of
that beauty coming from within

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and it hasn't diminished and I'm
not being fake and phony when I

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say it now.
But the work on social media, it

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makes it a little harder
honestly because I'm spending

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every day editing pictures of
myself editing video of myself

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worse than pictures is editing.
The videos all day.

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A little too much me.
It's a little too much me and

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then every time you go to post
that you see other people and

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it's just it's hard not to
compare.

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So I think that my work is a
hair stylist.

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Working with real people, real
clients.

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And even in the Fashion District
they always work behind the

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scenes in fashion leading up to
content creation.

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All of that really established
where I believe that sense of

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beauty coming from within came
from, hmm, the social media

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makes a little trickier.
So and but that gives me more

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resolution to If even if I have
to fake it till I make it and

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show my forehead wrinkles show.
No filter show, minimal, you

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know, lighting, I have a ring
light here.

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It's only for like filming in
the winter because, you know,

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you get with no lighting, you
can get pixelated, but I try to

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let the frizzies show, let the
lines show let the mismatched

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curls show, it's because I know
how I feel after two years of

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being sucked into Beauty, social
media, It can be hard, it can

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wear, it can wear on you seeing
all these perfect images.

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I'm like, let me continue to
share imperfect please because

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I'd rather contribute to that.
Number one, thank you so much

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for your honesty, and for
sharing that, these are the

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words that a lot of people don't
hear.

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They don't hear about as a
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everybody always thinks, so the
internet Looks So Glamorous, and

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everybody is having such a great
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And then, you know, people are
sitting there scrolling being

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like Oh my God.
You know I just can't I can't

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compete and for you to be able
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message.
Number one, it's hella true.

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I mean if you're thinking about
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algorithms and people thinking
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be getting the most like 7
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use this, you know, particular
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I do this kind of a before and
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these fact I mean it's almost
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becomes so technical.
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about it does take a lot of that
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the joy out of what you're
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of the work I suppose, right?
And but yeah, I'm wondering if

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we like conversations, like this
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Tick-Tock, some of Facebook's
and Instagrams and the, you

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know, those that are creating
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filters, which You know, are
entertaining, let's face it, you

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know?
And then some of them are

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problematic if used in the wrong
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personal thing, you know, if, if
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because they think it's
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oh I'm you know you know this
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it's like helping me to manifest
the me that I want.

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Then that's that person, you
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judgment.
You know, there's there's no

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shaming of anybody that uses
filters at one point.

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I was there, I kind of was like,
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Nobody should be using filters.
I thought it was toxic.

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That word toxic is overused but
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like, you know what?
Let's like stop for a moment and

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say, you know, here I'm having
this conversation, I'm sharing

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this because this is how I'm
feeling about me right now and

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this is a journey and it's a
continual process for me to

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continue to find that joy and
see how I can, you know, Elevate

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the magic within what I'm doing.
Even despite all these things

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because there's always going to
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Right, no matter if you're a
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you're sitting in an office
somewhere, there's always going

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to be the turkeys that are going
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Right?
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And honestly I take no issue
with other people using filter

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like do whatever makes you
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I personally don't think I could
handle editing content of myself

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filtered all day because you
know I post a video every single

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day so whether it's 15 seconds
or a minute that's, you know of

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in out that's a bit of work
where I'm watching my my Own

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image.
And I think if I were to consume

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myself filtered all day every
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reconcile reality.
So, I am completely open to

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anyone, doing whatever they
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I just know that for me, I have
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my off, my own page if it's like
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Because I like showing real but
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You know, I have those
insecurities.

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I am, I like the filters?
I like how I look.

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Look with the filters.
In fact, I liked them so much

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that I can't use that because I
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There you go.
There you go.

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And and you know and even
recognizing that I think is, you

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know, they always say it's so
the first step of healing.

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It's like the awareness of it is
like, okay, I realized that

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there could be a dependency here
or there could be some sort of a

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Reliance and if I don't keep it
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doesn't matter what anybody else
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But what if you didn't check for
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Fan, I may end up feeling this
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something else.
And then the two are not

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necessarily A lining and it's
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right?
So I yeah, I, you know,

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congratulate you for recognizing
that and, you know, being in

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this space and being able like,
for me, you know, when I because

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I came up in supermodel
Beauties, I was like, you know,

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I was the person who is ordering
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the Has to be retouched out.
I mean, that was what I did and

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as my career earlier on.
And so I feel like I'm almost

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like trying to, you know, make
up for all the like I'm atoning

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right now for all of that.
And so yeah, it's kind of like

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to it was extraordinary for me
to start seeing people being

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okay on like First on YouTube
because it kind of started on

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YouTube like showing their skin
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the after I was like, that is so
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Like, and that changed
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It really is inspiring to me.
It's inspiring, you know, and so

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it's again, brings me back to
the fact that I'm happy to be

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here.
Now, very happy to be here.

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Now, times have changed and it's
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Amen, Amen to that.
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So you know, you've got this
huge following, as I mentioned

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on social media with, like, all
these people look, you know,

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following you on Tick, Tock and
Instagram, and granted.

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You've gotten to try some fancy
products and some tools that I'm

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like I have never seen this
before.

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Wow.
And so thank you.

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Number one for introducing me to
all these like massive brushes

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and the dryers and the curling
irons and stuff.

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But like are there any that like
stand out for you as your

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favorites?
Okay.

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I posed by test and post it all.
Its I get joy out of it.

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I get absolute joy out of trying
things and sharing them.

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Nothing will ever top for me.
A round brush and blow dryer.

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Like that.
I honestly, when I was in Beauty

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School, nobody taught us how to
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Brush blow dry.
I went and took a job at one of

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those blow-dry chains like
blow-dry only salons because I

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was like, that is the one thing
I went to.

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I wanted to learn how to do that
so bad and I never learned in

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beauty school.
So I was like, let me go get the

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job at one of these places just
do it a thousand times till I

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know how to do it.
Nothing will ever top of a round

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brush and blow dryer to me?
I mean I just adore that style

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you You can, you could do it
works great on healthy hair.

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It totally conceals dead ends
and split ends, you know, it's

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it's a magic, it's a magic hair,
Caroline door around where some

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liquor and I'm yet to find
anything I prefer.

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I mean, I love all the stuff
that I've posted.

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We have the super viral are rap,
winter with everyone, receiving

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the many people.
It looks like it almost looks

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like it's visit squared's, it
really is.

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I'm like, it's reversing like If
you're amazing.

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So it's pure physics, it's the
there.

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The Twist, there's little, those
pink slits.

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Are are coming out.
Yeah.

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Out, not in the air is coming
out and it creates like

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centrifugal force that literally
does that.

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And then the warm air sets, the
texture of the curl, very

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interesting, very interesting,
very user friendly, it's a great

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consumer product as a hair
stylist, there is nothing L ever

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love me.
More than a round brush and blow

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dryer.
Wow.

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So, round brush, like, ceramic,
what kind of bristles like, is

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they're all of it, any see that?
And that's okay, that's where

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you can get.
That's where you can get

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specific for hair type and
texture and desired outcome.

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There is, you know, basically a
metal brush, tell me if this is

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boring but metal-faced.
Okay, good great.

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I'm in good company.
So a metal base of a brush is

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going to give you maximum like
curl definition because that hot

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Metal brushes acting like
curling iron, right?

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If you have a wooden base of a
brush, you're going to get less

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of that curl shape because the
wood is not heating up in

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setting.
The texture boar bristles are

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going to give you maximum
smoothness especially for any

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type of texture.
If you have even wave to type

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for, see texture hair, the boar
bristle really is going to silky

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and smooth out that thing that
Strand and the plastic bristles.

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Eels give more volume so and
then there's combinations of it.

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All, you know, there's metal
base with boar bristles.

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There's wood base with board,
whistles.

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There's metal base plastic.
It's you can find it all.

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Wow, that is so cool.
You know, it's funny because my

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hair is usually pretty darn
straight because I'm 100%

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Korean.
And I used to be like my hair

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was always down to my butt for
the longest time, and it's just

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been getting.
So, just damaged and like a

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color.
It I'm like, I've got so So much

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gray hair coming in and so I'm
like highlighting and coloring

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and and I recently found
something which is like this.

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I went I didn't Ulta run and I
found this which I thought was

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kind of interesting.
So I tried that and it puts like

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these rose gold kind of tones in
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I'm happy with it.
I'm happy love that.

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How I've always been like really
hair involved because I like I

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even like I like back in the
day, I actually helped to launch

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the ferry a hair color line.
When it first came out like 25.

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Five years ago, but I thought I
was like one of the first things

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that I ever launched and, and I
can't believe it's still around

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today.
So that was, that was super fun.

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So, and I've worked in hair care
to, but when I actually had like

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obtained, a stepdaughter through
marriage who was half-black,

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half-puerto, Rican, and her hair
was so beautifully naturally,

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curly, and I didn't know what to
do with it here.

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I was with my Mason Pearson
brush like And I was, it was a

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lesson in just, you know, trial
and error for for sure, for her

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growing up and it was a lot of
just like throw it up in a bun.

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It happens, you know, I feel
that that is its own sort of

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issue in the hair care industry.
That's, it's a whole own Tommy.

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I was fortunate, I went to
Beauty School in New York city

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so I'd never done here.
I went almost, as I said, kind

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of on an idea in a way and I
went to Beauty School in New

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York city.
That is Every texture, every

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type, every everything from the
teachers, to the classmates to

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the clients that came in.
So I have and then I aspired to

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work in fashion so you cannot
show up to a photo shoot and not

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be able to do one of the models,
hear you.

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I mean, it happens and it's
really unprofessional of people

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and it's horrifying and it's
humiliating to watch them go

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through that.
It's so wrong and I've seen it

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happen where another stylist on
a set.

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Said, they could, you know, not
perform for whatever reasons on

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this, whatever texture.
I'm always horrified for those

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people and I would feel like
just got it if I had to say that

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to someone.
So, you know, I feel it.

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So, you know, the whole, I
actually just recorded content

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with a friend yesterday where we
went shampoo shopping in the

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store in the aisle, that's a
newest series.

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I'm doing taking people to like,
Target and Alta and yeah, it's

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tough out.
So, we went for her type for see

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where you're standing in, front
of the contraception, by the

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way.
Yeah.

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Okay.
That's one example.

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That was yesterday.
I was like, we're done, we're

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done filming.
Let's take a selfie before we

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go.
And I'm going to post it later

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this week, but I want to share
your beautiful smile today, so

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and then I realized we were
standing in front of the

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pregnancy test.
Was like, that's fun.

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Let's do it.
So it's just so fun to, you

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know, shot.
I had a blaster master.

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I cannot wait to post the
content is going to be so fun.

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Yeah, I have been reading, you
know, in beauty news and such

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about the lack of training for
textured and you know,

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African-American hair like you
know, they're like the different

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kinds of like course to curly
hair and and I think that it's

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nice to bring visibility to it.
I think that hopefully there

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will be more Our training within
schools and they'll be more

444
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,700
hiring with in salons and all of
that for sure it was.

445
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:26,300
So it was honestly to me I was
very shocked when I got out in

446
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:28,700
the field in the industry
because my beauty school was

447
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:33,700
just so every single and I don't
I'm not just saying every type

448
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:36,900
of girl every type of thin fine,
loose hair every type of

449
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,400
straight coarse hair, literally.
We had people from every Walk of

450
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,700
Life from probably every
continent we had People from

451
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:49,300
everywhere teachers, classmates
clients, I can do whatever I can

452
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,500
do on one person's hair, I can
do it, anybody else's, and I

453
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:56,100
just thought that was part of
the deal and I was shocked to

454
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:59,400
get out into the field and see
that that wasn't the case for a

455
00:25:59,408 --> 00:26:01,300
lot of people.
Wow, wow.

456
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:03,500
Yeah stuff.
Well, yeah.

457
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:07,100
I'm I'm glad that you were able
to get your training and NYC the

458
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,500
place doing, and went to the
place to be.

459
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:13,300
Honestly, I was so surprised
when I got out into the world.

460
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,700
Now, what here, Was, I can't do
that texture.

461
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:17,500
Yeah.
Yeah.

462
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaking of New York and where I
think a lot of people are

463
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,900
curious like, aside from doing
Contents.

464
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:25,200
I know that that's a consumes
most of your time every day.

465
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,200
But what's it like to be you on
an in like your average day?

466
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,100
Like, do you wake up?
You have a routine.

467
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,700
Do you have a little ritual?
You've got dogs?

468
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,300
I understand.
Yes, I have to.

469
00:26:36,308 --> 00:26:39,600
Okay, my dog me up every single
morning.

470
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,400
He is up before me.
He jumps on top of me.

471
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,200
He licks my face.
Says, he's ready to go.

472
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,700
He is my alarm clock, nut.
First thing we do is hit the

473
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:52,400
street first thing, you know, I
leave next, I always go to bed

474
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,900
with my jacket, my wallet, the
leash, the poop bag all the

475
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,700
already there because I don't
want to be running around the

476
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,900
house looking for it, and where
there is no waiting for him.

477
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:05,100
He's up, he's ready.
Take a walk around the

478
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,300
neighborhood with the dog.
That's step one.

479
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,700
I try really hard, not to open
social media, at least, for like

480
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,700
an hour or so.
But I failed that mission every

481
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,000
time, every most of the time I
feel that so definitely a lot of

482
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,900
peeking in scrolling, you know,
I used to just be a real

483
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:28,000
everyday hairstylist.
It used to be always, I was

484
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,300
freely.
I worked aspiring in the fashion

485
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,900
industry.
I was an assistant for a decade.

486
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,100
I was an assistant on set as a
to of a hair stylist and fashion

487
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,700
shoots, I always say stylist.
And Google think I mean close.

488
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,100
I was an assist hair assistant
in fashion.

489
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,500
For ten years and what really
kept the kept everything afloat.

490
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,900
During that period was lots of
odd jobs.

491
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,400
I did Glam Squad.
I did dry bar.

492
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,400
I did all the I'd approve all of
the at home.

493
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,800
Blowouts.
I did it all.

494
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,600
I did hair for the dancers at a
gentlemen's club, I used to go

495
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,100
like four nights the week.
I would go at about 6 p.m. and

496
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,200
go do the girls, elevated
gentlemen's club.

497
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:13,200
It was very elevated, it was
very sophisticated, it was a

498
00:28:13,208 --> 00:28:15,200
lie.
Lovely fillets it that to me.

499
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800
That's really where I went.
I worked there for almost seven

500
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,100
years and I only stopped at the
pandemic when it closed during

501
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,000
lockdown.
That to me was really where I

502
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,000
grew up.
You know, I went into that job

503
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,400
of very naive person and I came
out of it, the me that I am now.

504
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,800
So I hold that place in a very
special place in my heart, and

505
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,100
still friends with a lot of the
women that I work with there.

506
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:44,100
But now, my routine is Lately,
different.

507
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:47,400
You know, I have not taken
clients in over a year.

508
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,600
So I just every day is more
content creation.

509
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200
I have, I'm fortunate enough to
have Partnerships going on most

510
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,700
of the time, so it's a lot of
balancing creating the creative

511
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:03,100
stuff for the organic stuff, and
then working on, getting the

512
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,000
partnership content all worked
out.

513
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,100
It's, it's a whole shebang.
So did this transition happen

514
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:15,100
because of covid-19, Absolutely.
Absolutely.

515
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:19,800
I did not I did not really use
social media other than out of

516
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,600
friendly.
Happy birthdays.

517
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000
And this sort you know, little
vacation pictures and such.

518
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,700
I didn't use social media
seriously until covid.

519
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,600
Wow.
And so was that when you

520
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,500
discover Tick-Tock, what did you
have an Instagram first?

521
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,400
And then take, I had it.
No, I always had a personal

522
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Instagram account, just for fun.
Just keep up with friends and

523
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400
more the consumed, you know, I
was like a watch or not.

524
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,900
Not a poster really.
And during that first lockdown,

525
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,600
I took a video of my neighbors
across the street.

526
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,300
Trying to do the Savage by Megan
the Staley bands on the roof and

527
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,700
they were failing that they
could not get it together.

528
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:04,100
Yeah, I know little jokey
voiceover as they were doing

529
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,700
exams before the voiceover
option on tic toc even existed.

530
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:09,000
So we recorded it all in the
app.

531
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaking live making little joke
he's and the video got a couple

532
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,300
And Views over the course of a
week or two.

533
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,800
Wow.
Which I was shocking and I think

534
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,000
it gets I think about three or
four thousand people follow just

535
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,100
clicked follow off of that video
and I thought that's really

536
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,000
ridiculous.
I did not even think about.

537
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,800
I forgot that people could go
viral.

538
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,400
You could gain a following and
I'm not a comedian.

539
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000
I am a silly and fun and I'm
always smiling.

540
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,400
But I'm not great at like
presenting jokes to the camera

541
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:44,200
which is fine not ever.
He's got to do everything.

542
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,100
So I was like, I can't really
keep up the funny stuff, it was

543
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:51,600
kind of a moment in time that I
captured and had fun with in my

544
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,000
boyfriend, said to me, oh, you
should make your videos.

545
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,400
People love videos about hair.
I was like I'm dumb.

546
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,400
I hairstyles I could do that and
and I did so I blow dried my

547
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,600
hair and I made a video that
totally flopped it was not

548
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,900
interesting and it did not
click.

549
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,800
But while my hair was blow-dried
for the next few days and

550
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,000
straight and I was like, I don't
know, just keep Stuff while my

551
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,700
hair straightened and at the end
of the week, one of the things I

552
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,600
finally had a good idea.
And it was this thing that I

553
00:31:20,608 --> 00:31:23,700
remember, I do that people are
always surprised by like a

554
00:31:23,708 --> 00:31:27,800
little, a little styling trick
that I felt like nobody other

555
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,700
people do.
But most people don't think of,

556
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,800
okay, and I thought I'll make a
video about that.

557
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:34,800
I'll make a video of that and it
did well.

558
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,100
And then from then on I just
haven't stopped.

559
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,400
Wow.
What like how long was it before

560
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,600
you realize that this could Be a
career or at least something

561
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
that could really support you
frankly.

562
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,800
For a, I'll tell you what I knew
before I even start with the

563
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,800
minute, he said, make it my
boyfriend said you should make

564
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,100
her videos.
I was like, duh people, people

565
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,400
do fabulous presenting Beauty,
content online.

566
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,200
I never consumed Beauty content.
I was not familiar with YouTube.

567
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,100
I was not rude, but I did know
as a hair stylist that there

568
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:12,700
were people out there who showed
every single client, every

569
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:16,700
single every Thing and you would
see them with sponsorships and

570
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:21,300
and collaborations with Brands
paying to be a part of their

571
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,900
presentation.
And I was like, oh yeah, that

572
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,200
exists.
That's a great way to, you know,

573
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,000
I was out of I was completely
out of work for that first month

574
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,100
of lockdown, all right?
You know, like all my freelance

575
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:38,300
jobs disappeared, all of my
side, hustle app at home here,

576
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:42,600
blow-dries kaput, the club doors
are closed.

577
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:46,400
So So the minute, the minute
Jeffrey said, the thing about

578
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,600
making hair videos, I was like
duh like that's its own career

579
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,900
path that I could do off my
phone right here.

580
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,500
Wow!
Wow, that's amazing.

581
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,600
So do you remember like what was
your first sponsorship or some

582
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,300
good like if we were approached
first of all, or did you kind of

583
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:08,000
hustle and and do your own like
hustling and out to find

584
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,400
sponsors?
I will to this day the best

585
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Partnerships.
Are the things that they come

586
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,900
to, they seek me out, like,
everything, where it's the

587
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,200
people were.
The brand is looking for me in

588
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,100
the first place, that's always
what goes past, you know, those

589
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,400
are natural.
Oftentimes, it's because I've

590
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,500
shown the products in my, it's,
you know, where I organically

591
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,900
use it.
So, it's something I can easily

592
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,500
say yes to without having to
test the products I've used it

593
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,400
for years or maybe 22, whatever
it may be.

594
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:41,800
Those are always my almost all
of my Partnerships are like

595
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000
that.
Every once in, In a while,

596
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,500
something comes my way that I
test out for weeks if not months

597
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:52,700
before getting ready to present
it as if it's up to my

598
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,500
standards, to be honest.
That I take really seriously, I

599
00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:00,200
take it very seriously, not not
including things.

600
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
I don't really like I just can't
go there.

601
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,400
Yeah honesty is so important
without that if you know you

602
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400
really have it all for, you
know, what this is.

603
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,199
This is just not working for me
and this is working for me.

604
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,699
In the end.
That's where you lean into the

605
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:17,400
things that are really working
for you.

606
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400
And I've had to say, no, I've
had to say, no, I'm not going to

607
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,699
say what?
Because one of my friends use

608
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:27,199
the term, don't yuck my yum
like, if anything can be good

609
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,000
for anyone, but I have to feel
that genuine connection.

610
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
But my first sponsorship ever
was and it came my way with

611
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,900
surrender, Birchbox Men's
Grooming, they have a special

612
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,900
box facial hair and it's not
makeup and Stuff like that.

613
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:47,500
And I was floored.
I thought it was the coolest

614
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,699
thing that ever happened.
I was so excited, it was one

615
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:57,000
video and it was not a huge
rate, but I was very encouraged,

616
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,500
and they gave me six months of
the Birchbox subscription and I

617
00:35:00,508 --> 00:35:10,300
adored it.
I imagine that the pr boxes are

618
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:15,500
insane.
My it gives me anxiety about my

619
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:17,800
eco footprint.
I'm like, my eco footprint is

620
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
through the roof these days.
I've got to do something to

621
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,200
like, bam.
I mean, of course, I recycle

622
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600
everything.
I, you know, I and I try to get

623
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,400
everything.
I donate a lot.

624
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:31,800
The bulk of everything is
donated, it's hard to find

625
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,900
people who will accept a lot of
it is not packaged, you know,

626
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,900
it's not only are the few things
that I've opened and used opened

627
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:42,200
and used, but all the other
stuff just comes like not

628
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,500
Crapped know but a lot, you
know, not in boxes so you know

629
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,100
what, Matt, you just need to
sign it and then you know, put

630
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,400
it up on, you know for you know
an auction and we're to the

631
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,700
food.
My oldest sister is an

632
00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,000
ophthalmologist and she
basically Works in research at

633
00:36:00,008 --> 00:36:02,600
our University.
But she is affiliated with a

634
00:36:02,607 --> 00:36:05,800
free clinic where they started
doing opthamology appointments

635
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,800
for people in need.
So I'm able to we're setting up

636
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,300
a whole closet.
Freebies.

637
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,300
And I'm going to get all of my
excess sent over there.

638
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,300
It's that's its own task because
it's again, it's been hard.

639
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,000
A lot of places can't accept it
because it's my sister's place.

640
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,500
They are able to say yes.
It's all about for, we know,

641
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,400
it's all fine.
So that's going to be a

642
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600
difficult thing, getting that
all there, but I look forward to

643
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,800
the day, that's finally set up.
I'm that'll be cool.

644
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,800
That will make me feel good.
Oh good.

645
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Yeah, I have to agree with you
number one because I am in that

646
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,500
place where I'm trying to put
products together.

647
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,300
Sir.
And I'm like I and I'm very

648
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:47,700
conscientious about the
environmental impact of what I'm

649
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,300
doing and so, you know, all of
my packaging is recyclable but I

650
00:36:51,308 --> 00:36:54,200
actually have a zero waste
program where I will for free,

651
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,700
give people the shipping label
that they can return either.

652
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,200
My products or whomever else is
it doesn't matter if you get

653
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,500
something from, you know,
Birchbox or send it to my

654
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,300
company.
And we will send it to

655
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:09,100
terracycle so that it gets
recycled properly.

656
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:12,300
Because I think it's like only
nine percent of anything that

657
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,900
goes.
Your Municipal blue bin actually

658
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,000
gets recycled, which is that,
you know, kind of a crime, but

659
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,900
it's just the fact of the
economics of the broken

660
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,400
recycling system, right?
Yeah.

661
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,000
And I see these videos and these
pictures of influencers, that

662
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,800
just have, like Stacks and
stacks of boxes that they're

663
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,200
like, oh my God, I am
overwhelmed.

664
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,900
I have to get, I have to get
through all this product and I

665
00:37:34,908 --> 00:37:37,100
mean, while I would be like, it
would be like, you know,

666
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,300
Christmas to some of the
somebody else.

667
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,700
But it's it is, it's anxiety.
It's like, oh my God, I

668
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,900
absolutely, you know.
People send this to me and I'm

669
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:46,900
not.
Mine, is I, I don't get those

670
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,300
sky high mountains, you know,
I'm so Niche.

671
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,600
And I'm not, I'm not that
person.

672
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,100
It doesn't just flood but it's
enough that I miss ya.

673
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:01,300
Oh my goodness and also
terracycle is amazing Tara

674
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:02,700
Cycles.
Amazing, I think there's a

675
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:07,000
terracycle drop-off center in
the city that I really want to

676
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,300
go make a video for like Earth.
An Earth Day is coming up.

677
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:16,100
I need to Quick reminder, I want
to go highlight the terracycle

678
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,600
drop-off center that I'm aware
of somewhere downtown.

679
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,300
I'm like, okay, let me put that
out.

680
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:23,300
Just remind people because
that's a fabulous program.

681
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,200
That is a fabulous program.
I adore terracycle.

682
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,400
Yeah, anything any little bit,
that helps a lot of people think

683
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,900
it, you know, like, oh, you
know, I'm just one person or one

684
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,100
consumer, one households and
it's not going to make a

685
00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:37,900
difference what I do.
But it adds dust adds up.

686
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,800
It's very important.
The yay for being conscientious.

687
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,700
Yeah, we Got to try amazing.
Amazing.

688
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,000
So how is it that you remain?
So positive and optimistic and

689
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,600
happy.
What is this?

690
00:38:53,600 --> 00:39:04,300
What are you drinking?
What do you smoking that?

691
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,400
That's how you perceive me.
That that's, I'm glad that's

692
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000
what's coming out.
It's definitely I try to, in

693
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,500
terms of the content that I put
out.

694
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,100
I try my very hardest to focus
in on that side of myself.

695
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:19,500
That is not the 100% all of the
time.

696
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,700
So picture of me, I'm a
well-rounded, there's more to me

697
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,000
than what's on social media.
I'm not one of those.

698
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Tell it all to the camera all
day everyday people and I do

699
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:37,200
keep some of my, my more complex
emotions that are less positive.

700
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,100
I do kind of keep those offline
and manage those just in my own.

701
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Life and in my own way.
So I'm really honored to hear

702
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,700
that you're that the perception
that's coming along with my

703
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,900
pages.
Those moments of positivity and

704
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,800
those moments of community
building because it's important

705
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,400
to me, it's really important to
me and interestingly enough as

706
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,500
much as I could say earlier that
the social media can be the

707
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:06,000
compare and despair side of it.
It also there is a another side

708
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,900
to that coin where the community
and the feedback and the

709
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,400
positivity and the support.
It brings me up.

710
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:16,200
It brings me so high up.
I answer all my DMs. I get

711
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,900
messages from people all day
asking, questions about tips.

712
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:25,000
You know how to do this in those
moments are so meaningful to me.

713
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
It's absolutely so meaningful to
me.

714
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,500
It's it's what I used to do all
day every day.

715
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,000
Before the pandemic was you
know, I would have days where I

716
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000
had no you know, no photo shoots
and I would do a whole week of

717
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,500
Glam Squad all week and that's
going to someone's different 7 8

718
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:44,700
10 12.
L've houses a day meeting a new

719
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:49,600
person, connecting, helping them
feel good, helping them, you

720
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,300
know, pick the things they need.
I miss that, I miss that.

721
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:56,700
And now I get it through
answering my DMs, and it does

722
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,600
bring me up.
It really makes me feel good.

723
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,200
And I think, well, I am here to
reflect back what I say.

724
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,900
And say, yes, what I see is in a
really genuine positivity and to

725
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,200
your point.
And I know it's important to say

726
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000
it's like, you know, being up
all the time.

727
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,700
It may Not necessarily be the
healthiest thing either you have

728
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:17,800
to you know there are these
these moments where it's okay to

729
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,200
be sad.
It's okay to be angry.

730
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,500
It's okay to be pissed.
It's okay to, you know, all of

731
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:27,500
those things are a natural part
of Wellness to, but I truly

732
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:30,400
believe and this is an, it just
might be an odd statement, but I

733
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800
do believe hairstylist are
healers.

734
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,700
I think that there is something
about the power of touch about

735
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,800
the power and of being able to
have those conversations, like

736
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
therapy sessions for all the
persons in your chair.

737
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,500
Yeah, and you were beautifying
that person, you're helping so

738
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,500
you know, give that person a,
you know, just like a refresh,

739
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,600
or a touchup or a full-on
makeover, whatever that they

740
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,100
want so that they can then feel
better about themselves to.

741
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,300
So, I think that it's a, let's
it's like a, like, a one-hour,

742
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,100
like some type, in my case, it's
a four-hour, you like it, you

743
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:06,600
know, healing sessions truly is,
I love hearing you say that I'm

744
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,500
going to be completely candid
and say, up till social media,

745
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:14,600
my work as 12.
A bit 11 years of hair styling.

746
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:18,800
I never had great success.
I was, I always, I felt very

747
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,900
talented.
I always did a fabulous job.

748
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:22,500
I always made my clients very
happy.

749
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,500
I always did great, and whatever
I was doing it's a very

750
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,100
competitive industry in New
York.

751
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,200
I never had a super breakout
success moment and that was

752
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,300
challenging.
That was challenging in its own,

753
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:38,200
right, especially when I felt
very talented, what always kept

754
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,700
me going was just what you
described was, exactly what you

755
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:43,700
described, whether it's a model
on a A photo shoot that you get

756
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:48,600
to bring up and exalt in and
show that this industry can be

757
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,700
fabulous and kind, whether it's
a going to Consumers, just a

758
00:42:53,707 --> 00:42:56,700
regular person's house and doing
their hair and connecting that

759
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:00,500
way.
I had random jolliest and and

760
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:03,400
Bloomingdale's and curl people's
hair all day for 50 bucks, an

761
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,900
hour for a haircut, for a
curling iron company, you know,

762
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:11,100
even though I talk to you for
five minutes, that that is what

763
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,900
kept me.
So, It.

764
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:18,500
I adore that people they let you
put there and put my hands in

765
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,800
their head.
That's instant connection people

766
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200
are sitting down.
They're trusting me to affect

767
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,400
the outcome of how they look.
And it's just this instant

768
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,000
connection that has always been
so meaningful to me and it

769
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,400
carried me through the times of
hard work with limited

770
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,800
recognition, it really did
because it meant more to me than

771
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,800
anything.
And I think that that's a really

772
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,600
good point about What is true
success?

773
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,800
What is the real meaning of
abundance or feeling fulfilled

774
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,700
and in what you're doing?
Because it's not always about

775
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,700
the money.
It's not about the Benjamins a

776
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:59,800
lot of times, it's that feeling
that you are living the way that

777
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,100
you want to.
And you're really exploring your

778
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,200
passions and if you can get up
every day and feel like, oh my

779
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,000
god, this is my life.
I I love it.

780
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,900
Eating out as long as you have
the you know, your basic needs

781
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,500
met and you got people around
That love you.

782
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:18,400
And you know your you have this
appreciation and gratitude

783
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,900
inside, then it opens doors and
look at the door and set it open

784
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:25,400
for you at the time of a
pandemic, when the world was

785
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,600
shutting down, you were able to
be open to something like that,

786
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,300
and that doesn't happen unless
you already have that inside

787
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,100
you, that feeling of abundance
and that feeling of success and

788
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,500
and granted.
I know it's so easy for us all

789
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,300
to get our cell.
Get down on ourselves.

790
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,800
Like, I'm getting older, I
should be married or I should be

791
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,100
farther along in my career, I
should have this title.

792
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,300
I should, I should shit.
I often will say stop shooting

793
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:55,000
on yourself.
You know, it's like really like

794
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,200
know what you're doing is
perfect.

795
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,100
Stop shutting on yourself
because that in and of itself

796
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:05,600
will cause your success to be
delayed as long as you feel that

797
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,000
you are, you know, moving
forward more into the place

798
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,200
where you want to be and the
life that you want to live and

799
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,400
you're going to create Magic.
Then then yeah, I think that it

800
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,700
comes in all shapes and forms
and I'm just I'm ecstatic to see

801
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,900
this like this, that you're
that, you're manifesting for

802
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,200
yourself right now and I know
that it's going to.

803
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,100
I know we're going to see you on
TV, you know, real soon.

804
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,200
It's like I me I already I
already see it like there's

805
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,300
stuff happening in your Vortex
that, you know, we can have a

806
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:36,200
further conversation about I'm
kind of intuitive that way.

807
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,000
All right.
You're you know, I always liked

808
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,000
your lips to God's ears baby
like Wait, you know, we've got a

809
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,300
direct connection me and the
dude above the Divine daddy at

810
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:54,500
any rate, just a couple more
things because I know we're soon

811
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:57,900
coming to a close, but let's
talk a little bit more about

812
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,700
hair aside from the round brush
and the dryer.

813
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,800
Are there some other tips that
you think is good for like

814
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,900
people to keep their hair
looking, it's healthy best.

815
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:12,600
Yeah, I am a huge.
I'm always trying to tell Will

816
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,800
to use leave in conditioner and
it's interesting because some

817
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,600
people will say my hair is so
greasy and fine.

818
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,800
And way that there are there is
not one leave-in conditioner.

819
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,300
There is a whole range, those
products that people call

820
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,300
primers.
That's a leave in conditioner,

821
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,500
those super lightweight spray.
There is the whole gamut of the

822
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:37,400
most lightest weight sprays or
in shower rinse out but post

823
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,400
conditioner product.
There's all kinds of things all

824
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,500
the way through.
Evie, custards and creams, and

825
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:49,300
tubs of cholesterol that they
call it, with all of those

826
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,500
things, it to me, I try to
explain it like this, your hair

827
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:56,100
is a fiber.
It's like cotton or silk, or any

828
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,400
of these things, and you want to
treat it with something to help

829
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,800
it be protected.
So it's kind of like fabric

830
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,400
softener, you know how fabric
softener preserves the life of

831
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,300
your clothes or whatever.
They spray at the dry cleaner

832
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,000
before they put the heat on the
silk.

833
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,500
It's that Want to use something
like that.

834
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,800
It's it just, it really helps
preserve that if you want the

835
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,200
length because if your hair is
this short, it's almost like do

836
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,500
whatever you want because you're
cutting it all off before.

837
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:27,900
It's if you always maintain
short hair, all right, do

838
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:30,200
anything you please.
But if you want to have some

839
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,800
length, you want to do those
things.

840
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Those healthy healthy.
I don't know if I like that

841
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
term, but those healthy hair
habit.

842
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,300
So something on the wet hair,
even if you're going to go

843
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,700
totally, Unstyled, no bloger.
Nothing.

844
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,400
A little something goes a long
way.

845
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,700
Protecting your hair from
breaking.

846
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,500
When you put your jacket on
break, you know these little

847
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:53,800
things we don't even think
about.

848
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,600
It's not just that the curling
iron damages your hair, it's

849
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,100
twirling.
My hair, my finger, it's zipping

850
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:04,300
up my sweatshirts, putting on a
jacket or laying on the couch or

851
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:05,600
sitting on an airplane, with
your head.

852
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,400
You know, traction damage,
that's the whole type of hair

853
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,300
damage though, some sort of
leave.

854
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:17,400
In will always benefit that.
And I talked about that a lot.

855
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,700
I feel like I talk about that
all the time.

856
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Also, I also this is a tough one
and I get some really negative

857
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,200
visceral reactions to this.
I don't recommend hot, hot water

858
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,800
on it.
I don't think it's great for

859
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,900
your scalp.
The skin just in terms of

860
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:36,300
dryness, really because hot
water is so drying.

861
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,000
It's also not good for the
length.

862
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,200
Super hot wire and that doesn't
mean that it's got to be cold.

863
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Cold, you know, lukewarm is its
own fair play.

864
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,700
Do I love taking a lukewarm
shower?

865
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:53,100
I sure don't.
I sure do and if I am not

866
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:56,300
washing my hair and I've got it
all pinned up in a way, I will

867
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,900
take a hot shower because I'll
sacrifice my dry skin faster

868
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:03,700
than I'll sacrifice dry here.
So I know the joy and the love

869
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,000
of a hot shower, but you know
what?

870
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,300
The hot water that really hot
water can be very hard on your

871
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:12,300
hair and your scalp, interesting
people.

872
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,800
Tear that I hate to be the one
to tell it to him.

873
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,000
I have seen those videos of
people doing that, you know, the

874
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,100
ice bath plunges.
I just don't get it.

875
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,800
I am, like more power to you.
I'm going to take my gosh, look

876
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,000
at this shit there, for a few
minutes till luxuriated, but

877
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,400
like, yeah, I know you're but
you're exactly right.

878
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,500
I think that, you know, the
stretching and even like, they

879
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,700
were saying, like, the towel,
drying, the towel, drying the

880
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:39,400
right, and then all of that, you
know, using something with

881
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
padding.
I actually just wanted to do a

882
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:46,200
An ingredient awareness plug.
And that is that, you know, a

883
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,200
lot of those products that make
your hair look beautifully,

884
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,100
shiny and sleek and what not
have, like, silicones in them.

885
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,800
One that I would ask people to
stay away from are the cyclo

886
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,600
penta silicones like anything
that says cyclo before the

887
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,600
siloxane or or what have you
because they don't break down in

888
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,500
the environment.
They look gorgeous on your hair

889
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:06,900
but they get into the water
stream that they go down the

890
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:08,700
drain.
They go out into Wildlife, they

891
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:11,900
get into the water stream, they
start killing the environment,

892
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:16,300
and Do what you can.
I know that it's so hard because

893
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,700
they work so beautifully.
They look so good.

894
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:20,800
You know, if you got a special
occasion of course, you know, I

895
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,700
am like, oh for it but you know,
dimethicone is better.

896
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,700
There are some natural silicone
Alternatives that are also good.

897
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,900
But yeah a lot of those like the
the biotin, the panels and the

898
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:34,300
kind of carrot like all of those
great ingredients for your

899
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:37,200
career that will help you know,
keep it will the fibers strong

900
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,100
to your point and nourished and
more resilient more elastic so

901
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,300
that it doesn't break.
Those are all extremely good

902
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,100
tips.
Yeah.

903
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,700
That was a tough one for me to
understand because I as a

904
00:50:48,707 --> 00:50:51,900
hairstylist you know there's a
lot of online conversation about

905
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:56,800
silicone or silicone free and I
was not understanding it from

906
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,900
the point of view of the
environment for a long time and

907
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:02,900
I just wanted to make clear, you
know, people there's a lot of

908
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:06,800
misinformation about silicones
effect on your hair online and I

909
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,500
always wanted to try to clear
that up and make people feel

910
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:12,200
comfortable making the decision
with real information.

911
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Shannon sort of misleading
information and then my eyes

912
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,100
were open by an amazing
dermatologist who I met who has

913
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:25,100
a product line about the
non-biodegradable side of

914
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:28,600
silicon, which I was completely
unaware of, I was completely

915
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,000
unaware that and it's a job.
That's not your job.

916
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,600
Your job is to make people look
as gorgeous as they can right

917
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,800
there.
While they know it's a tough

918
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,500
pill does, that was a tough pill
to swallow for me and I do still

919
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,400
work with I work.
I Have a lot of silicone free

920
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,100
options.
I do still work with products

921
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,600
with silicone but it's less than
I used to say, if I could bathe

922
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,700
them every day, I work because
they make everything, you know,

923
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,900
your skin silky.
They they help seal in the

924
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:56,300
moisture.
Good Lord.

925
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,100
I love ice Ella silicone.
But you know, it's like if I had

926
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,200
to choose like I do read the
labels and anything with a cyclo

927
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,400
in front of it, I try to avoid
now, that's very useful

928
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,700
information.
I actually didn't know that.

929
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:10,700
I was aware of the difference in
the Cyclone, the cones.

930
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,500
I didn't know that.
Was that the Cyclones were worse

931
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:17,400
for the environment?
Yeah, yeah, good to know.

932
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,600
Okay, let's see.
I think that there's just one

933
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,700
final question I have for you.
Is there any advice that you

934
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:28,800
give to people who don't feel
comfortable with themselves,

935
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,600
like with their skin or their
hair?

936
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,200
Like what would you say to that
person?

937
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:38,200
First of all, I would say I'm
right there with you.

938
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:46,700
You know that it's a battle and
you know fake it till you make

939
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:52,100
it fake it till you make it it's
half of it is delusion you know

940
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:56,700
half of it is convincing
yourself and believing it and

941
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,300
nobody you're never going to
please everyone.

942
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:04,900
So you might as well just please
yourself and and just believe In

943
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,300
what you're bringing to the
table, whether even on your

944
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:13,400
hardest day to get, there you
deserve it, you deserve that

945
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:19,600
that level of comfort from
within, and if you can't really

946
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:24,600
feel it in your heart one day,
friggin fake, it just convince

947
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,400
yourself, you know, and not to
not to say of mental health, oh,

948
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,800
get over it.
I hope I'm not painting a

949
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,500
picture of, oh, get over it in
terms of like mental health

950
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:37,700
struggles, but But when it comes
to that confidence and bringing

951
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:41,900
your authentic self to the table
on the days where it feels

952
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:48,000
daunting, just fake it, I knows
maybe that's maybe, that's too

953
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,100
simplified.
But yeah, there's actually a

954
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,600
almost a build on what you're
saying because I think that that

955
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,200
is like, you know, so powerful.
Because number one, you

956
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600
admitting that you're right
there with everybody because

957
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:03,500
sometimes, you know, it's easy
to look at Celebrities or people

958
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:05,600
on you.
Instagram is Tick-Tock and think

959
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,000
oh they've got it made and I,
you know, they have such they

960
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,400
exude sell such self-confidence.
They never have if they'd never

961
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,800
seems like everybody just
because the camera might not be

962
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,300
on when it is opened.
When all that is happening and

963
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:23,000
something that I had been
practicing myself lately is like

964
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,400
I've come across a bunch of
people who when they're trying

965
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,300
to project something that and
inside they're still feeling

966
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,900
like they're not there yet and
and they're like, oh my gosh, I

967
00:54:34,908 --> 00:54:37,000
know that it, you know, I should
be faking it until I make it and

968
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,300
then I'll get there.
But they start to feel like

969
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,600
imposter syndrome and that unto
itself is a little bit

970
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,500
debilitating.
And so one phrase that I like to

971
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:50,300
use is act as if or be it until
you become it.

972
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,900
Like because what we want to do
is give yourself that space and

973
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:56,800
I find meditation to be the best
thing ever because it, you know,

974
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,400
there's a whole lot of beauty
issues that come from cortisol,

975
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,500
from stress, from, like, all of
these things, you know, between

976
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,700
hair loss and Temples and
wrinkles, and all of the things

977
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,600
that stress causes our body to,
you know, to go through to fight

978
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,100
it.
If you can give yourself that

979
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,800
quiet space and meditate on your
awesomeness.

980
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,800
And the idea is that you have to
be.

981
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,700
So convinced in your knowing of
your worth of your power of your

982
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:28,700
beauty of your place, in this
world of your of everything that

983
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,300
is good about you and that
meditation giving yourself those

984
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,200
moments even if it's just a
couple of minutes.

985
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:35,700
Minutes.
Even if it's while you're in the

986
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,100
shower or driving, I'll add it.
I like doing driving meditations

987
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,000
or walking meditations.
Walking the dog, you know?

988
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,200
It's just like they like say
these affirmations over and over

989
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,100
to yourself again.
And again until it gets into

990
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:52,200
your system because then and
only then will you really be

991
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,700
able to feel more confident?
No matter if you get, is it, no

992
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:58,800
matter if your hair is not doing
what you wanted to do, it just,

993
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,600
you know, you find a way around
it and life is good, that's such

994
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,600
valuable Bass and I I'm I'm so
enjoy hearing that because that

995
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,100
saying fake it till you make.
It is not really giving anyone

996
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:14,000
an option.
Whereas what you're saying is

997
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,000
you're giving these amazing
tangible things you can do to

998
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,900
get to that mindset and you're
so right.

999
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,500
And it's funny because people
like oh I don't have time for

1000
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:27,100
that but you know you should
probably just dedicate like

1001
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,500
double the time.
If you think that you don't have

1002
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:31,600
time or any other time.
Really?

1003
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,600
Cuz you know if your if your
life Is so busy that you don't

1004
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,900
feel in control of what your day
is.

1005
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,900
That's when you know that, you
know, that's like, oh, that

1006
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:45,700
check that awareness.
Oh, I, you know, I am, you know,

1007
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:48,100
Under the Influence, not over
the influence, right?

1008
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:51,600
We always want to be over the
influence.

1009
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,600
The influencers are not being
fluency.

1010
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,300
Yeah, anyway, oh my gosh, Matt,
I love speaking with you today.

1011
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:02,800
I hope we can stay in touch.
You are such a, an amazing

1012
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,100
extraordinary person.
Everybody.

1013
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,700
You are not if you if you don't
already.

1014
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:10,800
Matt loves hair on Tick-Tock on
Instagram.

1015
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,800
You're going to see much more of
him and he always has the best

1016
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,200
tips ever.
Thank goodness I have had such a

1017
00:57:18,207 --> 00:57:21,900
blast getting with you your
Insight and perspective and

1018
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:26,800
point of view on life are
thrilling to me and just so, so

1019
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,100
fabulous.
I adore you.

1020
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:30,400
Thank you so much.