Why Older Women Are Hollywood’s New Power Players with Actress Kimberley Kim

Jennifer Norman:
In a world that often worships youth, what happens when a woman dares to step into her power later in life and shines brighter than ever? Today's guest, Kimberley Kim is living proof that passion has no expiration date. As a mature actress blazing her own path through Hollywood, Kimberley brings depth, grace and hard earned wisdom to every role she plays. Her journey is extraordinary. From early challenges to rediscovering herself through the craft of acting, Kimberley has built a force flourishing career across film, television and commercials. Appearing in BET's American Gangster: Trap Queens, Lifetime's Secret Love Triangle, and Paramount's 11 minutes, her on screen presence is captivating, shaped by a lifetime of perseverance.

Jennifer Norman:
But what truly makes Kimberley remarkable isn't just her filmography. It's her fearlessness. In an industry that often sidelines women past a certain age, she is rewriting the script. Kimberley embodies the truth that confidence, sensuality and creativity can expand with time, not fade away. In this episode, you'll discover how Kimberley found her calling in acting and turned it into a thriving career. What it takes to stay inspired and visible as a woman in Hollywood today. The lessons she's learned about beauty, courage and second chances. And why embracing every chapter of your story might just be the secret to true success. So if you've ever been told it's too late to chase your dream, this conversation is your reminder that your best act may just be beginning.

Jennifer Norman:
And now let's bring Kimberley Kim to the stage of The Human Beauty Movement Podcast. Welcome, Kimberley, how are you today?

Kimberly Kim:
I am great. Thank you for having me.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, you are radiant today. I'm so excited to have our conversation. You have to tell us what got you bitten by the acting bug in the first place.

Kimberly Kim:
I think it was typical story. A young child in a small, small town who loved to dress up and play. And I grew up on an island, the same one that we have. Pamela Anderson and Kim Cattrall are from as well. David Foster is from there too. So yeah, I don't know, I guess it's a thing where we grow up in a very small town and have big eyes and want to explore the world. So yes, as a young child I always love putting on theater productions and I use that term loosely for my parents. And then it grew from there.

Kimberly Kim:
And then in Canada and British Columbia in the mid-80s, we started to become the Hollywood of the north, as they call it, with Stephen J. Canal doing a lot of his shows up there. So a lot more opportunities were coming from the US they were filming a lot up there and that's how I got my feet wet. I actually got to work on an episode of 21 Jump street back in the day. I'm really aging myself, but that's what this is about. And just a side note on that, I worked on a film called Modi, which Johnny Depp directed. And when I went on set, it was actually pickup days. They filmed in the US, most of it was filmed, well, all of it was filmed in, I think, Hungary and the UK.

Kimberly Kim:
But nonetheless, I saw him and I told him I actually worked on 21 Jump Street. He's like, you must have been a baby. I'm like, yes. I think I was like 17. And he gave me a big hug. He was super sweet. And it was just fun to reconnect.

Kimberly Kim:
We're talking about going from being on 21 Jump Street, I. E. Him starting out his career, and then now he's directing. And he was actually... It was Al Pacino who was on set too that day, so he was.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, hello.

Kimberly Kim:
Oh. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I just. I can't believe it's gone from there. I'm like, well, you just never know, right? So it was kind of a fun little chat we had. But, yeah, so that's how I got my feet wet. Initially in Canada, in Vancouver, and from there I had come down to the US and ended up staying. And I was doing that in my early 20s. And then I didn't have much success, little stuff.

Kimberly Kim:
But I took the hiatus to get married and have a child and raise my son, who is now made me an empty nester. So I was again now free to go out and explore my dreams without feeling guilty for not being a responsible parent. So, yes, that's how I was able to then forge my way as an older actress.

Jennifer Norman:
Wow. You had such a storied beginning. And it's so interesting to see the arc of certain people's careers. Like a Johnny Depp who started out and now look at him. It's like he had a little bit of a tumultuous midsection there, as some of the brat boys and whatnot had. And then coming back after Pirates of the Caribbean and all that, and directing and very, very credible and just really, very much a legend in Hollywood. And for wome, yeah, we take that time, we raise families, we have these shifting priorities in the middle of life, and then after that happens, I know for a lot of women, we start to lose a bit of confidence in ourselves around the emptiness time. That's when menopause might hit And a lot of biological and just emotional mental changes can happen.

Jennifer Norman:
And there are so many women that just kind of bow out of life and they feel like, oh, I'm over the hill, it's too late for me. But no, you actually said no. This is actually an opportunity to get back into something that I really love, this passion that I used to have. Why not start again? Can you tell me about that experience and what that decision was like?

Kimberly Kim:
Well, I just have to say that menopause has been a great thing in my career.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, really? Tell us. Tell us more about that.

Kimberly Kim:
Well, I do lots of commercials for people, women in menopause, and. And I'm one of them. So there you go. I have no complaints about menopause.

Jennifer Norman:
Good for you. Because I have many.

Kimberly Kim:
But it served me well. But, yeah, it's kind of like, no, you have to make a choice. And I actually found, like, in my 40s, even though I wasn't acting, I was still kind of really fighting to stay youthful or, but now in my 50s, I really have just. And I think a lot of us get to that. We just really embrace it and go, this is where it is, and this is who I am. I'm not afraid of it. I'm thrilled that I get to grow older every day.

Kimberly Kim:
And I really treat it as a gift. And we're in a really great time in that we're. There's so many things to help us stay healthy and vibrant and be the best us that we can be.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah.

Kimberly Kim:
And, you know, I don't take it for granted. I try to do all the upkeep and exercise and eat well and take care of my skin and as much as I can and deal with things as they come along. But I'm not afraid of my wrinkles. I'm not afraid of the sagging skin. I see it and I see it on camera, but that's okay. That's kind of the gig now. And I always get a thrill of being, a lot of the time, the oldest person on the sets. So...

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, I admire so much your mindset about this, because that really is it. There are those that cling to the way, especially with actresses, if they've had some success in their early days and people remember them as that, and it's almost like their identity is built on that image of them. And then they go through quite a crisis as they age and they're not really that self anymore. But those who are able to say, you know, this is a gift, being able to get older, enjoying life. Jamie Lee Curtis, I celebrate her so much. And Diane Keaton, who unfortunately we just lost, but she was always such a representative of what it is to age gracefully and just like live at your fullest potential. And so many others that are really saying this is just like the best is yet to come. And I really feel that it's like, I feel like this is like the best time of our lives.

Jennifer Norman:
Like we are in our prime and it's just going to continue to get better and better. And how wonderful that you as an actress, even the close ups on your skin and all of that, I mean, you're not self conscious about that. I had actually worked in the beauty industry for actresses that had been really, really struggling with aging to the point where some of them would not come out of the green room because they were so insecure about the way that they looked on camera and they just didn't feel comfortable. And it was really very, very difficult. And so, yeah, my, I think that this particular episode is one where we just want to celebrate every moment of our lives, where we get to show up, we get to be our best selves, we get to do work that we love and follow our passions.

Jennifer Norman:
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Jennifer Norman:
Tell us about now that you're doing acting again, what you love so much about it. What is it that continues to draw you to it?

Kimberly Kim:
Well, I love that there because society has changed so much. There is a real demographic for people like me. We are the people with money. We're the ones buying stuff. We're the ones watching a lot of movies and TV. So it's good to be able to represent that. And I think that's why there is a market for it. We, as we get older, we gain so much knowledge and it's great to feel wiser and be able to make really sound decisions as an older person.

Kimberly Kim:
I mean, the reason I had changed my hair to gray and that was because it was a makeup artist who told me, she's like, there's a huge amount of work for that look. And she was right. So I always, when I go out or I talk to people, I'm always like, if you need it, I older lady, here you go. And that's how I present myself because. And also how I do photos, I don't like a lot of Photoshop or airbrushing because I want casting to see what I look like. I want to look like me when I do my tapes and so forth, you know, so I don't. I really. Another thing as getting older, I really value time and I value other people's time.

Kimberly Kim:
And so you come with that kind of wisdom. And that's not necessarily something, you know, in your 20s or 30s or at least. I didn't, I didn't really think about this business as a business as such. So that's another important aspect coming back into film is I really treat it as a business more than I had ever done in the past because it's what you can bring to the client. That's what this is about. Large parts. It's all a lot of dollars and cents. And it is especially in film and commercial world and TV.

Kimberly Kim:
It's the bottom lines. So I work in finance, so I'm lucky that I can recognize that. But again, I didn't when I was younger, so there's that aspect of it. But also as an older person, I feel much more free to be open with my, I'm going to say vulnerability and really take in characters and give more than I would have in the past because I'm not as self conscious, I'm not as worried about how I'm perceived by others and I not as worried about how I look on camera. So that's not something that I had before as a younger person. So those are the great gifts of aging that have served me well and that's what I bring to the business today.

Jennifer Norman:
I also think that there's so much like the kind of content that is on screen, especially on TV. TV is just having a moment right now when, well, you consider streaming TV, but there's so much richness in the roles and it's not just like the glamour-bot of days of yore where you had to look like the supermodel on screen. But yeah, yeah, it's like there's the messiness that is shown on TV that is really raw and that really gets your attention because it's so well acted and it's so well produced that it really gets into that raw emotion and that storytelling once again. More so than I think before, perhaps.

Kimberly Kim:
Oh yeah. And you look a lot like. I love watching like scan the Scandinavians do it so well. They really embrace older actors, men and women. And you just see such raw, deep characters. And a lot of the time the older women are the leads. They're not the supporting and. And they don't.

Kimberly Kim:
They're not glamorized. They're like deep wrinkled women that have lived lives. And that's great to see on film because their story comes through, I think, and we're not just. And the. The richness of whatever it is is more important than how they look. It's interesting. Storytelling is telling different things that people have gone through and how. And the thread that binds all of us and how we relate to it, how we get a connection, what it makes us feel.

Kimberly Kim:
And that's, I think, what we're seeing more of, rather than just looking at beautiful figures on screen. Yeah, so that's the shift. We're seeing a lot more of that. And yeah, yeah. All these actresses that have led the way in that and not. And the production companies, director, all these kinds of things have really opened the door to welcoming those kind of stories. You don't just have to be a beautiful, beautiful woman and then you're done at 45 or what have you. You know what I mean? Like, we still want to hear about them now. So that's the shift.

Jennifer Norman:
I think that the market also was clamoring for it because I think we got a little bit tired of just kind of seeing the same old, same old kind of thing over and over again. And we wanted representation on screen. We wanted to see more people that kind of mirroring ourselves, I think. So, yeah, for sure.

Kimberly Kim:
We always want to. I mean, watching film and TV is about having that kind of emotional connection to the character. So, like I was talking about earlier is how this demographic has really become a big marketplace. Right. So we want to see us on film and we want to see what other characters, how they're dealing with menopause or how they're dealing with divorce or children and. And all that kind of stuff. Being a single mother or. There's so many different stories that have been tabooed for so long, and now we see a lot more of them on film.

Kimberly Kim:
They're very juicy. So we can.

Jennifer Norman:
It's like, ooh, they went there.

Kimberly Kim:
Wow.

Jennifer Norman:
Now, you played a range of characters from mothers and detectives to women carrying emotional complexity. What kind of roles speak to you most deeply?

Kimberly Kim:
Well, I always. I seem to get a lot of the very kind of authoritative mother, head of household kind of characters, seem to have that kind of look. But I really do love playing those. I like horror movie. I like being in the real. They're. They're always a lot of fun because there's a lot. Usually a lot of depth, psychological depth of how they got there, what kind of trauma they've gone through to make them what they are.

Kimberly Kim:
So I enjoy that. And it's also always empathetic to your character. Because you have to be that way or you can't play it. You know, you can't think of yourself as an evil person. It's always, she has a purpose or she has a reason for why she is the way she is. The backstory. Yeah. So you look for that.

Kimberly Kim:
But I like those darker characters a lot of the time. And so, yeah, whenever I get a chance to do it, I always grab them.

Jennifer Norman:
So how do you even prepare for a role like that when it's like, okay, I'm not a psychological killer and like these things. But when you see some of those clips of you, I was like, oh, wow. You know, it's like in the eyes and the menacing kind of demeanor and all that. How do you prepare for something like that?

Kimberly Kim:
Well, of course, it's always down to the script. I mean, that's always number one and understanding the relationship with the other characters. But, no, there's always a part of you in it. It's. I always say it's just me kind of interpreting who the character is and what I bring to it. So I do reading and kind of think, why would you do that? Or we, you know, because there's not a lot of underlay of the script. I mean, they give you something, but you could certainly go deeper.

Kimberly Kim:
I look at it like that, of, why would she do that? And then whatever's in me will create whatever that uniqueness is that I bring to it. So that's what makes all actors different, is that unique quality they have, that whatever quirks or nuances that come with it. So being. And, of course, listening, that's always. I think the more most interesting part is listening to the script. Listening to the other characters when you're doing with your scene partner, showing that you're in it, you're in that moment, and however you're reacting, because reacting is very technical. It's.

Jennifer Norman:
You gotta be more so than people realize.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah. And then the key is listening. Because you're reacting to something. When you want to show that reaction in your eyes, in the moment, even though your cue is always from what the other person is saying. If you're in another scene or if you're thinking, you have to show what's going on in your head just through your eyes. Right. And that's the trick. So that's the trick.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah. I think a lot of people would be curious about when you get a script, you audition for it sometimes. And I guess most of the time, some people are lucky enough that they don't have to audition for roles. But when you, once you land that opportunity, what is it like in terms of preparing? Once you get the script, once you know who your role is, who your castmates are and whatnot, when, I suppose, when is it that you actually get together, do your readings, when do you rehearse? Like, how does that all come together?

Kimberly Kim:
Oh, well, it's all such a mixed bag. I mean, most of the time you don't get to rehearse. Most of the time you don't do table reads. So you really go in and I've worked, you know, I work with a lot of people and so, I mean, a lot of the time I've worked with the same people on numerous different things or I've shown a crew or something. It's a small town. Yeah, but it is. So you just can bring your preparedness because if you don't get that luxury of rehearsing or doing a read through, you just have to come with your prep and that's number one. Obviously I have to come in knowing my lines, having an idea of how I think at least I'm going to react and things will change when you're actually working with your scene partner and so forth, but having an educated guess about how things will go and using common sense and depending on the project, I mean, is it way, way out there kind of stuff? We, a lot of the time we don't know how the director wants, what his vision is.

Kimberly Kim:
Because you won't learn a lot of the time till you're on set. Amazing. Yeah. So it's again, it's bringing to the table what you know you can bring. And then the other thing which I think is super important is being flexible, learning how to take direction quickly and not being stuck in what your own ideas are. Because certainly when you come to set, I guarantee your thought won't be different than what they envision. Cameraman or the director, the producer or the client if it's a commercial, what they want and how they see things. So being open to all that, that takes creativity, learning how to change or being able to change quickly what you had thought or interpreted things to be.

Kimberly Kim:
So that's, I say that's a really good skill set. And I've learned that that's super important. Yeah.

Jennifer Norman:
And not taking it personally because it's like you're on the clock. You're. You've got a job to do. You're really very professional about that.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah, yeah. You're there to serve and you're there to play. Your role. And you're there not to waste people's time. And like you said, be that professional person, because there's a lot, lot of moving parts and you're just a small part of it. Even though you're the one in front of the camera. There's so much more that goes into all this stuff. I just commend all the crew and production because I think my part's the easy part compared to what they do.

Kimberly Kim:
They do so much.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah. Shout out for all the crew that work so tirelessly to bring things together. It's quite extraordinary. It is quite a dance. The whole thing is just really, really remarkable how a lot of these come together.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah. So now you've collaborated with so many different directors, different actors. What have been your most memorable or even transformative experiences on set?

Kimberly Kim:
Well, certainly, like I said, working with Johnny Depp. That was awesome. I won't complain about that.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, no.

Kimberly Kim:
And then I. Lot of, like, coming up, directors, like, I've done a lot of independent films and watching them grow and work on new projects with them as they evolved. Oh, that's nice. That's neat to see. And then working, like with. I did a commercial with Mario Lopez recently, and watching him work when he's spot on and he's very.

Jennifer Norman:
Talk about a fellow who doesn't age.

Kimberly Kim:
That is very, very true.

Jennifer Norman:
I first met him, I was doing some PR work for L'Oreal, and this was. It must have been like 30 years ago. I mean, it was a long time ago. He looks exactly the same.

Kimberly Kim:
It's amazing. Yes, indeed. Yes. It's served him well. So. Yes. And he's got a great outlook and a really fun demeanor about him. So.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah. But people. It's great. You learn being the actor you. Because you work with so many different people all the time, different actors. You work with method actors, and that's a whole different thing. You work with people that don't want to, like, work with you. They want to go in.

Kimberly Kim:
They have their way, and you gotta work around that. I've definitely worked with actors where they were on a totally different wavelength. They weren't giving what was in the scene. And you've got to compensate. So there's all these different things you.

Jennifer Norman:
Puts you on your toes.

Kimberly Kim:
It does. Yes, it does. But you just. You can't expect people to bend for you. You need to be able to bend to the situation. So that's what I mean by flexibility. And.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah. It's almost like pseudo improv.

Kimberly Kim:
Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. And that's I love improv too.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh really? Oh my gosh. I don't know how people do that. I just don't think that quickly.

Kimberly Kim:
I mean, well, who. I think people like Robin Williams and you know that. I mean, I. They're just, they. He was just a master.

Jennifer Norman:
Such a gift. Oh my gosh. Yeah. To be able to just so swiftly be so witty.

Kimberly Kim:
Oh yeah, indeed. So, yeah, there's so many. Like I said, there's just this business is so like you just don't know things are coming. It's non stop 24 7. I mean, we're auditioning, we're submitting, we're going to events, you're networking. I mean meeting people, trying to connect. A big part of the business, always networking. And that is it.

Kimberly Kim:
That is part of the job. I mean it. I always say the getting the acting job and being on set, that's like the easy part because all the rest of it is like just getting the gig. So it is, it's not for the faint of heart for sure. And definitely as an older person you discover energy you never thought you had because it is non stop.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah.

Kimberly Kim:
And it actually really teaches you discipline, so keeps you discipline to take care of yourself, make sure you make time for your exercise and eating properly and getting auditions done and being where you need to be and going to events and all this kind of stuff and keeping a really harsh schedule and yeah, so it's, it's good. It keeps you really sharp. And as an older person, I think that's really important.

Jennifer Norman:
That's so much of it.

Kimberly Kim:
I always, when I say my age out loud, I'm like, oh my God, I don't even feel like half the age. And I think a lot of people feel like that too. Because in your mind you don't feel older because you are being so active and doing things and keeping yourself up to date with what's going on in the world and the business and stuff. So, yeah, I feel very, very lucky to see the hopefulness of getting older and the freedom of getting older. I think when you come from that approach, I think the doors really open up.

Jennifer Norman:
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Jennifer Norman:
How incredible too. I was just talking to a friend the other day about the fact that when it was Covid time and my gym was shut down and I didn't get a chance to do the kind of exercise that I wanted to, I would get out of bed and I would be achy and sore and I felt old. I felt like, oh my God, my body is falling apart. And it is so important to make sure that you are moving. He always says motion is the lotion, which drives me crazy because. But it's true. It's true.

Jennifer Norman:
But yeah, keeping yourself just active is so important for your health and longevity. And I feel younger now that I'm at the gym multiple times a week now again, and I just feel so much better. There's no aches, there's no pains, there's no, like, when I move quickly, I can respond. And to your point, I would love to hear about what your routine is and from a fitness or what, you know, your nutrition is and your beauty routine so that others might be able to learn a little bit about what it takes to be in prime shape as you are. Yeah, we talk and working and all of that. I think that'll be really fun to hear.

Kimberly Kim:
Yes. So one thing I've done, and this is for all the youngsters out there, I started wearing like, I wore sunscreen every day since I was like you and I mean multiple times.

Jennifer Norman:
I did not. I was like laying on tin foil at that age. I know, Good for you because. Yeah, do not do. It wasn't, it wasn't a big sunscreen, wasn't a big deal back when we were younger. But now I think I, you know, a lot of people know the, the dangers of it. Although it's funny, I just did a podcast where we were talking about, a lot of people are doing like the anti sunscreen thing. And so but we're like, yes, please make sure you're wearing your sunscreen because it will help for vanity's sake or anything.

Jennifer Norman:
But from skin cancer to just like premature aging and all of that, it's like a, it's a miracle. So please use it.

Kimberly Kim:
Yes, yes, it does make such a difference. And that was one thing that I always did and I think that helped me out a lot. And now for exercise. I really love doing Pilates and I do it at home. I do. There's YouTube is if you can't get out to a studio, you know, do it at home, do the floor mats because it's so good. Yoga and Pilates are just so good for your body. And what they do is they really work those muscles and you get that lean muscle and firmness.

Kimberly Kim:
And that's key as we get older is building muscle and light weight, etc. It's so vital as we get older to keep that muscle mass going. So and to that point I love my protein shakes. A girlfriend of mine showed me how to start making them and I love my protein and I put in frozen bananas and avocado and pumpkin is a great thing for them. Fiber, lactate, yeah, all that stuff, kale and they fill you up, they keep you going and you know you're getting a good nutrition base at least in the morning. And for me I, I don't eat meat so that's another thing and that's my personal choice. I just haven't wrote many years but yeah, make sure you get a lot of your protein and, and then don't eat after 7.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, I ate my dinner at 9:30 last night but I, I don't often do that.

Kimberly Kim:
But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another thing because. And then, then, and then of course the sleep. Oh, I mean really, you really. I really have to like carve out time to make sure I get enough sleep because it's a full day, I'm up 6am and we're going and you know, probably the, I mean I like to get to bed by 10 but that does not always happen so. But yeah, I, I love early mornings. I think starting early is a good way to live. I just think for your clock, internal clock and, and being productive, I mean by 12. I started out at 5 this morning I think and yeah, I feel like I've put in a full day almost, you know, but I haven't.

Kimberly Kim:
You get things done and like I was saying, this business is 24 7 so even when I wake up in the morning I've already got all these emails of stuff that's going on. So manage your time well but make sure you take care of you and make sure you make that time to get that 30 minutes at least of exercise a day and, and eat healthy and, and don't eat late. Lots of water, all that kind of stuff just makes such a big difference. It's very simple things really. Ice cube facial, just sticking your head in a bowl of ice.

Jennifer Norman:
Ice cube facial.

Kimberly Kim:
So good for you.

Jennifer Norman:
So you fill a bowl with ice water and you dunk your face in and how long are you under? Like and do you do that for like five minutes or.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah, you just kind of, you hold your breath for a bit, you go down, come up, go down again and, and if you can, cold showers are good or co showers I love. Yeah.

Jennifer Norman:
If you don't have access to the cold plunge then yeah, finish off your shower with a cold blast.

Kimberly Kim:
Yeah, it's so, so good for you. And then I love using Moroccan oil as my serum on my face. I mean I put that on. That's the first thing I put on and then I build from there. I just think it just like with mature skin, it just really helps give you that supple, kind of dewy look.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah. The main ingredient in Moroccan oil is argan. And some people may know it's such a nutritious, nutritious oil and it feels really good on your skin, on your hair. A lot of people are familiar with Moroccan Oil, which is the brand name for the products that are used on the hair and they just are really, really lovely. Lovely. Try to get fair trade if you can.

Kimberly Kim:
Yes. I just, I keep it in the shower and I just use it all over. I just love it. It's. Yeah, I find that really serves me well, especially if you have a tendency to wear drier skin, which I do. So. Yeah. Simple things.

Kimberly Kim:
Nothing doesn't, nothing has to be expensive or anything like that.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah.

Kimberly Kim:
But just common sense. A lot of it is just making wise choices. No smoking, no drinking. That was one thing I never did, which I think has served me well. I never smoked or drank. I just didn't like the taste of alcohol. So that was lucky for me.

Kimberly Kim:
But. And then managing your stress levels, I mean, I really think, like I was saying as a getting older, you care less and things flow off your shoulders much more easily than they did in your 20s. You know, it's a total mindset thing.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah.

Kimberly Kim:
And I have a son who's in his 20s, so I can see that, that going with him and I try to advise him because I wish I had learned all that when I was six age. I think just look at the big picture and as long as you are healthy and you can deal with things because problems are always going to come. That's a guarantee. Life is always going to change and you're always going to be challenged and you just gotta, just gotta go with it and do what you can and not beat yourself up and try to find the little pleasures in life and be as true to yourself as you can. And I think doing as much as we can for others is so rewarding for ourselves. I mean, I always feel so good inside if I can do something for someone else. So it's just, it really warms your heart. And I think being that kind person, treating people how you want to be treated, I mean, even as it sounds a cliche, but it's oh so true.

Kimberly Kim:
I think serves one well, especially as we get older.

Jennifer Norman:
Yeah, yeah. I actually heard somebody talk about the different phases of our lives. The three phases is learning, earning, and returning, which I thought was kind of interesting and unique. You know, in the first part of your life, you're trying to absorb so much. I actually think you should be learning all through your life, personally. But I think, like, the majority of it is just, like, learning everything. And then a lot of people get into that section where it's like, okay, it's time for me to start earning and making this and building up my nest egg and then always being like, okay, afterwards, it's time for me to return and give back and, like, getting ready for, like, passing it on.

Jennifer Norman:
You said so much, which is so important about just these simple things. And of course, like, common sense is not so common. Simple is not so simple when we. But it's like you have to make that priority in your life to say, I want to be as healthy as I can be. Not for anything, but just like you want to be around, you want to be able to feel good in your body. And it also impacts the way that your mind works. If you're not feeling good, if you're tired, if you're overworked.

Jennifer Norman:
I mean, I was one of those youngsters who, like, worked hard, play hard. I was burning the candle at every end. I did smoke, I did drink. I still. Every once in a while, I'll drink, but I do not smoke anymore. And I just said, you know what? I really want to be the best that I can be, Be as. As healthy as I can. That doesn't mean that I don't have cheat days and all that.

Jennifer Norman:
But, yeah, it's like, yeah, but live your life and live it with this attitude that you're going to just, like, enjoy every day with gratitude and have passion and enthusiasm for the work that you're doing, for the value that you're creating, for the impact that you're having on the people, on yourself, and on the people around you and on the world around you. And life just rewards you. It just becomes so much richer. And, you know, your perspective is one of abundance, and it just really shines so much more brightly on you when you can have that kind of perspective. And so I. Kimberley, I think that it's just so wonderful to bring you on and to have you as just a perfect example of what it is like to be just like this woman who's in her prime, who continues to recognize her gifts and to be able to take care of yourself. Because when you take care of yourself, you're taking care of everybody else too, in a better way. You can't take care of other people.

Jennifer Norman:
You can't do your best job if you're not taking care of yourself first. And, you know, so many women I think in particular are used to serving others first, and then they're depleting themselves and they forget about themselves. They're like, I don't have time for myself. I don't have time to take care of myself. I don't have time to eat right.

Kimberly Kim:
I don't have time.

Jennifer Norman:
Have time to do this or that. But make time. You deserve it. You deserve it, you deserve it.

Kimberly Kim:
And you're going to help others while doing that. So, yeah, know your worth. And we as women know, we don't learn that till later in life if we're lucky. If we're lucky. Especially like my mom's generation, they really much harder for them to know their worth. And we've really come a long way as women, and it's great to see because we have so much to bring to the table. We really do. And I think it's really great when we can collaborate with others and we're all in this game of life together and building from that as much as possible and recognizing differences and saying, okay, everyone can have their opinion.

Kimberly Kim:
That's fine, but that's. We also have one common goal, which is to live on this earth together. We're stuck with each other, so let's, let's try and make the good one, you know.

Jennifer Norman:
Amazing. So if you could give one message to women who are considering a creative career reinvention, something like that, later in life, what would your word of advice be?

Kimberly Kim:
Have no fear. And don't worry about what anyone else thinks. Just do it. But do. Do it. But do. Do it. Don't think about it, don't talk about it, just do it.

Kimberly Kim:
That's what we do.

Jennifer Norman:
We get in our heads, we overthink things. We're like, oh, well, what if. What if what? It's like, just do it. Just do it. Like, life's too short. Just have a sense of humor about it. It's like, oh, well, you know, just.

Kimberly Kim:
Just have fun. Do it. Try it. You have nothing to lose, no ego. And like they always say, the worst thing is to live with regret, and it truly is. So if you see you as worthwhile, that becomes much easier. Just do both. True.

Kimberly Kim:
So know you have it inside of you to create what it is you want to create. And then it all gets much easier at that point?

Jennifer Norman:
Yes, for sure. Now Kimberley, to end, I always ask three constant questions of every guest which are a reminder of what connects us all. Our beauty, our humanity and the truths that we live by. So my first question to you is what makes you beautiful?

Kimberly Kim:
I think I try to be really kind to others and I think that's what is my beauty.

Jennifer Norman:
Kindness is the biggest beauty secret. Second question, what does it mean to be human?

Kimberly Kim:
To be human means to be empathetic.

Jennifer Norman:
Oh, great answer. And third question, what's one truth you live by?

Kimberly Kim:
Well again, do unto others as you would have onto yourself. So treat people is my always been something I've really live by even as a younger person. Yeah, I have a real sense of fairness in my head. At least I try to. And I, I feel that steers you well in life. So it does.

Jennifer Norman:
Beautiful humans, this is Kimberley Kim. Thank you so much Kimberley for being my guest on The Human Beauty Movement Podcast. Can't wait to see you in your next roles ahead. Thank you so much.

Kimberly Kim:
Thank you again. I appreciate your time and it was a blast.

Jennifer Norman:
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